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Offline JohnyMac

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Is The Military Industrial Complex Vying For War
« on: November 19, 2024, 11:02:13 AM »
Well it appears that Ukraine fired six ATACMS missiles at Russia's interior this morning at 0025 Zulu (1925E hrs) with the Military Industrial Complex's (MIC) approval. Five of the missiles were destroyed in flight with one being damaged. Debris from the missiles caused some minor damage in Russia.

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MOSCOW, Nov 19 (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday lowered the threshold for a nuclear strike in response to a broader range of conventional attacks, and Moscow said Ukraine had struck deep inside Russia with U.S.-made ATACMS missiles. - Reuters

Isn't it interesting that we have okayed USA missiles firing from Ukraine into the interior of Russia? President Biden agreed to this ~60-days from Trump taking over on January 20, 2025. With the MIC probably going to take a big hit once the Trump's administration takes over, can they be behind this?

Now let's add to this little "Goats Head Soup", China just cut two internet cables between Lithuania and Sweden. Why? Remember that Putin has been quoted that the next war between Russia and the west will be via 1's and 0's.

Last, I am sure that the MSM will not be reporting in any great depth on this escalating drama; However, I feel that we are on the precipice of WW III. "They" the MIC will do anything for self-preservation of what they have achieved post WW II. The Elites will even start a world war to stop Trump.

What are your thoughts?

Stay tuned

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Re: Is The Military Industrial Complex Vying For War
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2024, 02:21:25 PM »
We are already in WWIII

biden is pushing for the war to start as Trump enters office and therefor get blamed for starting WWIII which will make biden look better in the history books
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Re: Is The Military Industrial Complex Vying For War
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2024, 03:13:16 PM »
Yup, looking at WWIII and a civil war simultaneously. Spicy times are coming.

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Re: Is The Military Industrial Complex Vying For War
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2024, 03:18:01 PM »
cutting "archaic", "old fashioned" "relics of old technology" reduces bandwidth - and by a significant degree even if not a critical one.   But satellites are still there to carry loads.
Hunter/killer sats are in the inventories of major powers though.
Right?
And our doctrine is to blind an enemy before main attacks are initiated, yes?

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Re: Is The Military Industrial Complex Vying For War
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2024, 04:03:30 PM »
I heard one guy on the radio today while driving to the Doctor that Biden is doing the "okay to shoot into Russia with missiles deal" because he is getting kick-backs from Ukraine. It's Ukraine's last big hu-rah before Trump takes over.

It's as plausible as others that I have heard.   
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Re: Is The Military Industrial Complex Vying For War
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2024, 05:00:31 PM »
Plausible? Yes, but I think more along the idea of a response to the 10k-15k NorKor troops that recently arrived in Russia and are headed to Ukraine area.

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Re: Is The Military Industrial Complex Vying For War
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2024, 09:59:38 PM »
I agree with Nemo, it's a response to Putin ramping up the war.  I think the next 60 days will be the most dangerous ones as far as escalation.  Remember in the Trump-Putin call earlier this month trump warned Putin not to escalate- which Putin has immediately done. 
Biden is pushing the remainder of US aid through immediately, plus releasing restrictions which IMO should have been released 2 years ago. The odds of Russia downing 5/6 Atacams is remote considering their success at defending Russia from propeller driven drones so far, so I call BS on Russian claims.
Putin is probably close to desperate at this point. His economy is in a shambles, with the Russian Central Bank trying to desperately control inflation while their govt dumps more in equivalent dollars into their war drive than Biden has with his agendas.  The Russian army has failed to meet their objectives, with their only long term success being to connect Crimea by land. Losses can only be covered up so long.  If you're old enough to remember, it was the 20k losses in Afghanistan than was one of the major impetus leading to fall of the Soviet Union, and Russia's casualties are conservatively estimated to be around 750k. The fact that he had to ask for DPRK aid is telling. Factor in that they are rapidly losing influence in the central Asian republics and it really looks dim for poor old Vlad.
Trump recently stated that he would not abandon Ukraine, but probably shift from outright grants to lend-lease- at what I would expect to be favorable terms regarding resources from The Ukraine.
So, I expect something major from Russia using some BS excuse before Trump takes office.  Once he's in office I think they will coerced into something like a fair settlement.

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Re: Is The Military Industrial Complex Vying For War
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2024, 07:57:18 PM »
All good stuff gents.  :thumbsUp: :cheers:
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Re: Is The Military Industrial Complex Vying For War
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2024, 08:50:23 PM »
Russia is making gains in eastern Ukraine and they are not being stopped. Russian military has never cared about casualties and they have portrayed this action as fighting against the West. Ukraine?s only hope is a peace deal of being partitioned or direct nato involvement. Sad to say. The next 46 days will be interesting.