Unchained Preppers
General Category => News & Politics => Topic started by: EJR914 on July 20, 2012, 07:47:46 AM
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1 in custody, 14 dead in Aurora movie theater shooting
AURORA - There is one suspect in custody after 14 people were shot and killed at the Century 16 Movie Theaters at the Aurora Town Center.
There were at least 50 people injured, according to Aurora Police Chief Dan Oates.
Oates says 10 died at the theater and four died at the area hospital.
The new Batman movie called "The Dark Knight Rises" was opening at the theater during the shooting.
http://www.9news.com/news/local/article/278707/222/1-in-custody-14-dead-in-Aurora-theater-shooting (http://www.9news.com/news/local/article/278707/222/1-in-custody-14-dead-in-Aurora-theater-shooting)
Here he is: (http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/07/20/0720-james-holmes-3.jpg)
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This is why I carry a gun EVERYWHERE. I'll be carrying a gun tonight, as well as my wife to the movie tonight, as we're going to see it.
There are already calls for, "WE HAVE TO KEEP OUT MOVIE THEATERS SAFE!" Also, there are ALREADY calls for MORE gun control!
I'm sure Obama might call for more gun control, maybe even Romney if he gets elected.
If ANYTHING, its only a skilled carry that could have possibly stopped this shooting! The police will always show up too late.
I just sure hope they don't search me at the theater tonight, because I'll be carrying tonight to the same movie, in case some copy cats wants to try this crap on me!
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I would expect to get some gun control out of this one.
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I don't know where all of our posters live, but I'm sure we have one in CO. I hope they are all alright.
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Man oh man, I have an Uncle who lives in Aurora Ihope hes okay including the ones who were there. As fo gun control lets not get ahead of ourselves just yet.
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We should be giving thoughts and prayers to those who lost their lives last night. :(
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Prayers for those victims and their families.
Some things you can bet on: The anti-rights crowd will once again use this as a rallying cry, the Brady folks are already screaming in unison with the congressional hags in tow, and I'll bet ya dollars to donuts the administration will not let it go without trying to take some action. Remember Rahmses 1sts comments?
?You don?t ever want a crisis to go to waste; it?s an opportunity to do important things that you would otherwise avoid.?
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As fo gun control lets not get ahead of ourselves just yet.
They're blowing this out of the water.
National coverage already.
Using words like evil, terrorism, lone wolf, tea party (has been withdrawn, but it's been said), AR-15, etc.
http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/evil-returns-to-colorado/ (http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/evil-returns-to-colorado/)
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/aurora-dark-knight-shooting-suspect-identified-james-holmes/story?id=16818889#.UAmh9ytYs4Y (http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/aurora-dark-knight-shooting-suspect-identified-james-holmes/story?id=16818889#.UAmh9ytYs4Y)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/colorado-shooter-identified-as-james-holmes-24/2012/07/20/gJQAWkdrxW_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/colorado-shooter-identified-as-james-holmes-24/2012/07/20/gJQAWkdrxW_story.html)
Also, AR-15 is trending on twitter, for the wrong reasons.
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"You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. And what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before." -Rahm Emanuel
Wonder if Obama will take his buddy and former Chief of Staff's advice on this one.
?Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts,? Romney said, at a bill signing ceremony on July 1 with legislators, sportsmen?s groups and gun safety advocates. ?These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people.?
Just so all of you know James Holmes, was carrying one of these evil, deadly assault weapons that have no place in this world, and are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people.
Lovely.
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Say what you want about Alex Jones, but I do believe that he is on the mark (so far) with this one. This situation has mind control / false flag written all over it.
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Say what you want about Alex Jones, but I do believe that he is on the mark (so far) with this one. This situation has mind control / false flag written all over it.
We'll never know the truth man. If it turns out he was a right-wing person, then yet, I'd say the probability goes up.
However, think about this, unless someone pulls a Jack Ruby on this guy, he is in custody NOW. Its going to be harder for him to end up dead or killed b/c of suicide.
Most of these guys kills themselves afterwards, this guy didn't. Its really strange. We'll see if he winds up dead or not, but it isn't looking likely. If he makes it to trial, I doubt its a false flag or anything the government had to do with it.
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Say what you want about Alex Jones, but I do believe that he is on the mark (so far) with this one. This situation has mind control / false flag written all over it.
Havent heard AJ's talk on this. Mind control?
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Say what you want about Alex Jones, but I do believe that he is on the mark (so far) with this one. This situation has mind control / false flag written all over it.
Havent heard AJ's talk on this. Mind control?
Just seems funny that this shit always happens about two weeks before gun control legislation comes up (Columbine and the AWB come to mind).
Dark Knight Massacre To Pass UN Gun Ban? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxevkqQJxPk#ws)
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Witnesses are saying that he came in the right side emergency door near the screen, walked in the door, walked up the aisle, then walked back out, then he waited a little while, then he walked back in and just SAT there a MINUTE just creepy staring into the crowd, before he threw the CS gas canisters, then once they started to put out smoke, that's when he just started to open fire and gun people down.
A legal carrier would have had to time get his firearm ready and he could of at least started shooting back, instead of everyone just laying there in the fetal position or running away to be shot in the back. He may have even got lucky if he was well trained and either turned his attention to the shooter so others could get away, or even PUT the guy down with a head or pelvic shot if the rounds wouldn't have penetrated his vest.
I still hear that you can crush ribs if you hit a Kevlar vest just right, and you can also penetrate most with .357 Sig or .357 Mag or 44 Mag. You don't need a rifle round to penetrate some Kevlar. I doubt the guy was rocking plates bro.
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Say what you want about Alex Jones, but I do believe that he is on the mark (so far) with this one. This situation has mind control / false flag written all over it.
Havent heard AJ's talk on this. Mind control?
Just seems funny that this shit always happens about two weeks before gun control legislation comes up (Columbine and the AWB come to mind).
Dark Knight Massacre To Pass UN Gun Ban? ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxevkqQJxPk#ws[/url])
We've got the UN Gun Treaty happening in 7 days man! Yeah, the timing is suspicious man. Not enough proof yet, though.
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fuck. just.... fuck. [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
I won't get into whether or not this was set up. who knows anymore. either way, nothing good is going to come from it. whether it's "set up" or not, it's still going to be used as leverage for the UN treaty, and probably other legislation as well.
you know that feeling of butterflies in your gut, or that lump in your throat when you know something terrible is about to happen..... yea. :(
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My wife and I bought tickets on Fandango early last night, to go see the movie this Saturday. I've tried to talk her out of going, because before I was planning on going armed, even before this happened.
So what do you guys think? You think they would put metal detectors at large movie theaters, or maybe a ton of LEO and searching, now that this happened? Maybe just for this weekend in case of copy cat?
I'd hate to go unarmed to the movie theater now. I'm not sure that just not going is an option as my wife wants to go really bad. I've already talked to her about not going, and she says she still wants to go.
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My wife and I bought tickets on Fandango early last night, to go see the movie this Saturday. I've tried to talk her out of going, because before I was planning on going armed, even before this happened.
So what do you guys think? You think they would put metal detectors at large movie theaters, or maybe a ton of LEO and searching, now that this happened? Maybe just for this weekend in case of copy cat?
I'd hate to go unarmed to the movie theater now. I'm not sure that just not going is an option as my wife wants to go really bad. I've already talked to her about not going, and she says she still wants to go.
I'd refrain from going. just eat the loss of money (from the tickets), and chalk it up to personal safety. you can keep her from going if you really let her know that it's important to you.
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I'm going to talk with her about it some more when she gets home. I have no doubt that you're reply IS the SMART decision. No doubt about it.
No amount of money loss is worse than losing your life or suffering injuries or anything else like that.
I do wonder what kind of security they are going to put at the mall.
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Say what you want about Alex Jones, but I do believe that he is on the mark (so far) with this one. This situation has mind control / false flag written all over it.
Havent heard AJ's talk on this. Mind control?
My honest question for you (not rhetorical): Is the talk of "mind control" all tin-foil-hattery to you?
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I wonder the same thing. That brings up multiple reasons not to go. Not only is there the fear of a copycat, but also, if you go armed, then you'll probably have to deal with being detained and questioned (and probably not allowed to enter the theater with the weapon if they do end up having heaving security).
just don't go. it'll be on pirate bay soon. (if it's not there already, idunno, I stopped DL'ing things a while back)
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You know Obama is so happy that this happened, you know he can sit here and try to "pull us all together" and its going to help his re-election campaign. Just like OKC Bombing helped Clinton, and 9/11 and the Wars helped Bush get back in as well.
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I wonder the same thing. That brings up multiple reasons not to go. Not only is there the fear of a copycat, but also, if you go armed, then you'll probably have to deal with being detained and questioned (and probably not allowed to enter the theater with the weapon if they do end up having heaving security).
just don't go. it'll be on pirate bay soon. (if it's not there already, idunno, I stopped DL'ing things a while back)
Yeah, if I go, I'm going armed, and if I get detained and questioned I'll either be arrested or I'll be forced to leave and not come back, or best case scenario would that they just ask me to go put it in my car which ISN'T likely to happen.
The "public gathering" gun prohibition was lifted two years ago, by GeorgiaCarry.Org's help.
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Say what you want about Alex Jones, but I do believe that he is on the mark (so far) with this one. This situation has mind control / false flag written all over it.
Havent heard AJ's talk on this. Mind control?
My honest question for you (not rhetorical): Is the talk of "mind control" all tin-foil-hattery to you?
To me personally?.. no... the entire countries under mind control to some degree.
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what was I talking to you about last night ben? Roger. Send the gun control. Stage 1
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Lesson of Colorado: Ignore Victim Disarmament Zones and pack concealed anyway.
"You know, my daughters go to the movies. What if Malia and Sasha had been at the theater, as so many of our kids do every day?" -- Barack Obama reacting to the "Colorado Movie Massacre."
I'll tell you what would have happened -- the Secret Service protective detail would have put several bullets through the facepiece of the moke's gas mask -- end of story. The hypocrisy of these Mandarins, who live in bodyguard envelopes whenever they venture out of their designated Green Zones, knows no bounds. One of my daughters went to another midnight showing of the same movie here in Birmingham last night. She went with her boyfriend who was packing his permitted FEG Browning Hi-Power clone, despite the fact that the theater has a "no guns" policy.
Virginia Citizens Defense League lists Cinemark Theaters (which also owns Tinseltown, Cinearts, and Century Theatres) as being victim disarmament zones upon orders of the management. If so, it was only a matter of time before something like this happened.
To me, the lesson of last night is to ignore Victim Disarmament Zones and pack concealed anyway. Only you are responsible for your safety, not some risk-averse corporate drone a thousand miles away.
We will find out in time what motivated this evil prick, but the essential lesson is that only the ARMED intended victims of a mass shooting can interrupt them in time to make a difference. The same goes for government-sponsored genocides.
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2012/07/lesson-of-colorado-ignore-victim.html (http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2012/07/lesson-of-colorado-ignore-victim.html)
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Say what you want about Alex Jones, but I do believe that he is on the mark (so far) with this one. This situation has mind control / false flag written all over it.
Havent heard AJ's talk on this. Mind control?
My honest question for you (not rhetorical): Is the talk of "mind control" all tin-foil-hattery to you?
To me personally?.. no... the entire countries under mind control to some degree.
What about absolute mind control on an individual?
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Say what you want about Alex Jones, but I do believe that he is on the mark (so far) with this one. This situation has mind control / false flag written all over it.
Havent heard AJ's talk on this. Mind control?
My honest question for you (not rhetorical): Is the talk of "mind control" all tin-foil-hattery to you?
To me personally?.. no... the entire countries under mind control to some degree.
What about absolute mind control on an individual?
Absolute?.. like "turn left and pick up gun now" ? yes... Having very strong influence over what an individual "decides to do" ?.. its possible.
Why?
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I'm going to talk with her about it some more when she gets home. I have no doubt that you're reply IS the SMART decision. No doubt about it.
No amount of money loss is worse than losing your life or suffering injuries or anything else like that.
I do wonder what kind of security they are going to put at the mall.
Don't sweat it....Gecko45's got ya covered. And yeah - you see how fast the anti-rights crowd are mobilizing?
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What about absolute mind control on an individual?
Absolute?.. like "turn left and pick up gun now" ? yes... Having very strong influence over what an individual "decides to do" ?.. its possible.
Why?
Just something about one of your posts that led me to think you were poo-pooing mind control.
But anyway, as far as the depth of mind control, the "decision" can be completely taken away from the victim. This is not my opinion, this is fact. Everyone reading this should research "scopolamine" or "devil's breath" (the south american nickname for it)~ then prepare to pick your jaw up off your keyboard. Rapid, absolute, total mind control of an individual is very real..and easy.
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What about absolute mind control on an individual?
Absolute?.. like "turn left and pick up gun now" ? yes... Having very strong influence over what an individual "decides to do" ?.. its possible.
Why?
Just something about one of your posts that led me to think you were poo-pooing mind control.
But anyway, as far as the depth of mind control, the "decision" can be completely taken away from the victim. This is not my opinion, this is fact. Everyone reading this should research "scopolamine" or "devil's breath" (the south american nickname for it)~ then prepare to pick your jaw up off your keyboard. Rapid, absolute, total mind control of an individual is very real..and easy.
enjoy.
World's Scariest Drug (Documentary Exclusive) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToQ8PWYnu04#ws)
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If just ONE of the sheeple at the movie theater had a handgun and trained with it, this could have been averted. I know the shooter was wearing body armor, but that's why I practice so heavily on head/face shots. Silhouetted angainst the movie screen he could have been "pistol-sniped" by a cool customer with an accurate handgun and saved over a dozen lives. :'(
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If just ONE of the sheeple at the movie theater had a handgun and trained with it, this could have been averted. I know the shooter was wearing body armor, but that's why I practice so heavily on head/face shots. Silhouetted angainst the movie screen he could have been "pistol-sniped" by a cool customer with an accurate handgun and saved over a dozen lives. :'(
this was yet another "gun free zone". not by law, but by company policy.
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I'm going to talk with her about it some more when she gets home. I have no doubt that you're reply IS the SMART decision. No doubt about it.
No amount of money loss is worse than losing your life or suffering injuries or anything else like that.
I do wonder what kind of security they are going to put at the mall.
Don't sweat it....Gecko45's got ya covered. And yeah - you see how fast the anti-rights crowd are mobilizing?
LOL fuck that, I've seen the nerdy looking losers that hand around this mall where we are going. Gecko45's times ten. They are just there to call the police when someone gets hurt or killed, they couldn't do anything if they had to. I'll definitely take my own security into my own hands. Nothing but Mall Ninjas.
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If just ONE of the sheeple at the movie theater had a handgun and trained with it, this could have been averted. I know the shooter was wearing body armor, but that's why I practice so heavily on head/face shots. Silhouetted angainst the movie screen he could have been "pistol-sniped" by a cool customer with an accurate handgun and saved over a dozen lives. :'(
this was yet another "gun free zone". not by law, but by company policy.
I quit going in those places - I take my business elsewhere. Victim disarmament zones are usually the first place whackjobs hit. How many ranges, gunstores or shows, or deer camp have had something like this happen?
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You know what I take back what I said earlier this massacre conveniently not coincidentally happened before the UN gun ban bullshit thing. I had a gut feeling something horrible was gonna happen this year and it would trigger an event that would change our country FOR EVER. I'm a cynical person but you know theres something not right about this call me insane or whatever but this happens before the UN gun ban is signed I don't know man, I just don't the world the way I thought it ran. I will be praying for the victims and their families and as for James Holmes I hope mother fucker rots in hell, this is me mad and upset so forgive me mediators if I'm doing something wrong. :'( >:(
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What about absolute mind control on an individual?
Absolute?.. like "turn left and pick up gun now" ? yes... Having very strong influence over what an individual "decides to do" ?.. its possible.
Why?
Just something about one of your posts that led me to think you were poo-pooing mind control.
But anyway, as far as the depth of mind control, the "decision" can be completely taken away from the victim. This is not my opinion, this is fact. Everyone reading this should research "scopolamine" or "devil's breath" (the south american nickname for it)~ then prepare to pick your jaw up off your keyboard. Rapid, absolute, total mind control of an individual is very real..and easy.
enjoy.
World's Scariest Drug (Documentary Exclusive) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToQ8PWYnu04#ws[/url])
That's the crazies shit I have ever seen. I have never heard of it either. I did know about the CIA doing their best to create mind control decades ago. Just imagine what in the hell they have now. Probably synthesized drugs that work even better.
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If just ONE of the sheeple at the movie theater had a handgun and trained with it, this could have been averted. I know the shooter was wearing body armor, but that's why I practice so heavily on head/face shots. Silhouetted angainst the movie screen he could have been "pistol-sniped" by a cool customer with an accurate handgun and saved over a dozen lives. :'(
this was yet another "gun free zone". not by law, but by company policy.
I quit going in those places - I take my business elsewhere. Victim disarmament zones are usually the first place whackjobs hit. How many ranges, gunstores or shows, or deer camp have had something like this happen?
Exactly dude. I try to never go to these places. Maybe once or twice a year I'm dragged to a "victim rich environment," whether its by law or by policy.
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Oh shit.
here they come with the "stockpile" and "arsenal" talk.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/police-press-motive-denver-area-movie-massacre-232932177.html (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/police-press-motive-denver-area-movie-massacre-232932177.html)
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun shops, and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
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Well my prayers go out to all the victims and their families.
I have stayed away from the TV and this event in particular on purpose to avoid all of the hoopla that our media is making of the event.
I too have been tempted to put this event with July 27th however I have walked away from this theory. What ever happens on July 27th will happen and I have no control over it. What ever Bloomberg, Brady or Rendale says; again I have no control over.
I do have control over whether I go to town with my handgun or not. I have control over speaking my mind when family or neighbors start to whine for more gun control. I have the ability to buy more ammo and reloading products as I choose.
Keep calm and collected and go about your lives. Like what happened in AZ. weeks from now the story will come out and it will be nothing like what the press is reporting or what politicians are spouting. :))
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Well said JM.
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Yes well said JMc. The only thing i am sure of in all of this. Is the gun grabbers will not waste this tragedy. My heart goes out to the victims and their families. I just hope this tragedy isn't used to create an even larger pool of potential victims in the near future.
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here's an interesting site i found. they post updates on breaking news stories via twitter and other sources as events unfold. sources seem to be coming from individuals, but also some tweets are directly from Aurora PD.
http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/aurora-colorado-dark-knight-rises-shooting (http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/aurora-colorado-dark-knight-rises-shooting)
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Yes well said JMc. The only thing i am sure of in all of this. Is the gun grabbers will not waste this tragedy. My heart goes out to the victims and their families. I just hope this tragedy isn't used to create an even larger pool of potential victims in the near future.
Yep, you think a dozen dead people is bad. That is nothing to the cost of life that will occur with more citizen disarmament. When citizens become more disarmed, more good people die.
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here's an interesting site i found. they post updates on breaking news stories via twitter and other sources as events unfold. sources seem to be coming from individuals, but also some tweets are directly from Aurora PD.
[url]http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/aurora-colorado-dark-knight-rises-shooting[/url] ([url]http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/aurora-colorado-dark-knight-rises-shooting[/url])
Sounds like there are a lot of young people killed in that incident. Wonder if any of them were 21 and were legal to carry concealed that night.
Furthermore, I wonder how many people in that theater were 21 and were legal to carry concealed that night.
Forget the movie theater's policy.
My wife and I went to see the movie today, against my better judgement, they only had one bored looking LEO at the ticket gate and I think I saw a few plain clothed officers as well, and there was a lot of security mall ninja types as well. I carried while deeply concealing. Everything went great, enjoyed the movie, and I didn't feel like a nervous sheep the entire time during the movie, because I knew if anything bad happened, I at least had a CHANCE. I didn't just have to run, crawl, hide, try to attack an armed gunman with my bare hands, or just lay there in the fetal position while the gunman blew my brains out. I felt safer, just the way I should have felt. It could have not gone smoother for me today.
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The Gun Control Polka (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv59SiF333s#ws)
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(http://sitfu.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/James-Holmes.jpg)
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Funny story...
Last Tues & Wed I was host to the CFO and his entourage of BP Oil for North America. Trying to work out a deal for the company I now work for.
We met at a restuarant for lunch and did the usual "Do you know who" Oh Yes I do. "Do you know who" exchange before I started my "dog and pony" show of why BP should invest with us.
Well half way through the lunch we ran out of people we could impress each other with when one of his entourage said, "Isn't the shooting in CO. terrible. Can you believe the shooter had 6,000 rounds and he bought them on the internet?"
Well once the conversation started to wind down on this subject. I said, "Well I am a member of the USPSA and I go through 1,000 rounds of ammo in weekend without really trying." Everybody at the table just looked at me with mouth "agape." I went on to eplaine that there is a lot of folks that buy rifle, shotgun and handgun ammo in bulk because they compete with one or all three weapons at tactical shoots. I asked the old question: "I am a lawabiding citizen. Why should I not be allowed to order 1,000 - 4,000 rounds a week?" Well they couldn't answer me.
The moral of this story is that most sheeple are not educated and it is up to us to educate them. If we don't take the time the left leaning media wins. [url=http://www.freesmileys.or
PS: Sorry about my spelling. For what ever reason the spell check application isn't working today.
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Good job, JM.
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I wonder if there shouldn't be a restriction to the media of publishing pictures of spree killers.
Is like they get a superstar status being on all the paper's covers and TV, and maybe that is a motivation for copycats.
Before you get crazy... I know, 1st amendment. Laws restricting the media totally suck and I don't want them either.
But I'm just thinking what if...
Do any of you know of a paper or something about spree killers' motivation?
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Yep, with first amendment inalienable rights for the press to be free, government restricting what they can say and do is a horrible idea, IMHO.
There is no doubt that the "fame" angle can play a part in some of these psychos doing what they do.
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First, Thx EJR.
Second, APX: If you take high profile killers from US history you get folks who played to the media. Billy the Kid, Baby Face Nelson, Billie & Clyde, John Dillanger, etc, etc, etc, etc.......
Here's the deal...99.998% of the gun owners are 100% legale. It's the .002% that are wacko's and the folks that want to force Marxism down our throats are worried about the 99.998% awho have weapons and use the .002% as core wood to fuel their fire.
Its up to us to not allow "that stoking" of the fire. [url=http://www.freesmileys.or
PS: SP's spelling check isn't working so sorry for the miss-spelled words.
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I watched a lot of news after that happened and one woman on their was saying how there is no need for a civillian to own 'military style' high powered rifles.
I wanted to tell her, 'Look lady. Give me your Granpa's Remington 870 and 50 rounds of buckshot and I'll go kill alot more than 15 people'.
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I watched a lot of news after that happened and one woman on their was saying how there is no need for a civillian to own 'military style' high powered rifles.
I wanted to tell her, 'Look lady. Give me your Granpa's Remington 870 and 50 rounds of buckshot and I'll go kill alot more than 15 people'.
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