Title: Re: Clarity beyond the fog of propaganda
Post by: Kentactic on May 10, 2014, 11:32:31 PM
Can you give me the overview? He lost me when he said(basically) that infringing HEAVILY on our constitutional rights is NOT tyranny, it just "Life". I dont vote. Couldn't care less about who wins or loses. But when you take my rights at gunpoint you've gained my undivided attention.
Title: Re: Clarity beyond the fog of propaganda
Post by: crudos on May 10, 2014, 11:48:14 PM
It's worth the time to listen to the whole thing. And give this one a chance too.
Title: Re: Clarity beyond the fog of propaganda
Post by: crudos on May 11, 2014, 01:34:36 PM
Just because you disagree with part of his overall message, shouldn't mean you can't be bothered to listen to the rest. If you listen to both videos, you will see he provides context for what he is saying. Watch the second video first, then the one at the top of the page.
Title: Re: Clarity beyond the fog of propaganda
Post by: special-k on May 11, 2014, 05:44:07 PM
I listened the entire "constitutional frauds" video, then read some of MAINEPREPPER's comments under that video........... Then I unsubscribed. I don't care to discuss why.
Title: Re: Clarity beyond the fog of propaganda
Post by: crudos on May 11, 2014, 11:45:05 PM
That's too bad.
I did find some of the commentary from other viewers more than a bit disturbing. Guess when sanity and reason rear their head, it can be a bit of sting for some folks in the prepping community.
Title: Re: Clarity beyond the fog of propaganda
Post by: Kentactic on May 12, 2014, 11:52:56 AM
My thoughts post constitutional frauds video. FYI I wont be able to watch the OP video. Its far too long and the first one was very anticlimactic and wasn't very logical from a free thinkers standpoint.
1. Realize the man talking has been in the military his whole life. Blind obedience is standard procedure to him. I bring this up not as an attack but just to be aware of how he may form his opinions based on life experiences. Also being older alone makes him more likely to be obedient. Obedience to the government and the whole "law-abiding citizen" pride is much more common in his generation. 2. He expresses that just because someone believes that they have correctly interpreted the constitution, it does not give them the right to take up arms and abandon the voting procedure. What hasn't even clicked in his head yet is that voting is exactly the same as taking up arms. You just simply hire men to do the shooting for you 3. Hes basically saying that you should never try to form your own opinions and then act upon them outside of his system. Yet ironically he has decided for you that the system which he personally supports is the system you must support. The men he has hired will force his will on you. You are free to try and vote it away but if you want all of your inalienable rights then you are a bad guy.
Title: Re: Clarity beyond the fog of propaganda
Post by: Grudgie on May 12, 2014, 05:12:26 PM
*claps
Kentactic nailed it.
Title: Re: Clarity beyond the fog of propaganda
Post by: special-k on May 12, 2014, 06:29:54 PM
@ Ken
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Title: Re: Clarity beyond the fog of propaganda
Post by: crudos on May 12, 2014, 10:37:12 PM
Ken: That is an interesting analysis. Not sure how you got from point A to whatever point you ended at? But I'll have to agree to disagree with you.