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Offline JohnyMac

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Charlottesville, VA.
« on: August 14, 2017, 09:09:36 AM »
I am surprised that the Charlottesville, VA. drama has not been brought up as yet.

The way I see it is that there is four stories here.

Story one is the march by the White Supremacists Friday night. Story two is the protest by the White Supremacist and the ANTIFA on Saturday. Story three is the murder by the man from Ohio using his car as a weapon. The last story is how the media is handling this story.

Story one:
I do not know much about this Friday night torch lighted march. Apparently the group marched to the Robert E. Lee statue located in X park. Apparently the city of Charlottesville is planning on removing the statue. There was minimal national coverage of this march other than to read that the group of ~200 chanted and yelled nasty White Supremacists rhetoric.

Story two:
This is the meat of what the media is reporting. I am just going to leave you with two links of eye witnesses. https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3576803/posts
file://www./joshgemmipatriotmedia/videos/335835703540363/ On this link you will have to copy & paste into your search engine. It will take you to facebook.

Story three:
The attack with car is absolutely hateful not unlike the shooting of Rep. Scalise. Both actions where done by a fringe person. A person I would call a wack-a-doodle.

Story four:
Well we are all witnessing the media in total meltdown. Meltdown because Mr. Trump didn't use the correct verbiage in condemning the drama. Meltdown about White Supremacists and their message of nationalism. Meltdown about the senseless murder.

A few things that the media leaves out. First, this group had permits to march for Friday night and Saturday. Next, although I am not a White Supremacist I do understand the Bill of Rights, specifically the First Amendment. The White Supremacists have a right guaranteed by the Bill of Rights, to express their opinions. Next, this group worked with the city and police. Next it appears that the gathering of ANTIFA protesters did not have a permit and started the fray. Last, it appears that the Charlottesville Police stood back and allowed the situation to escalate.

We certainly live in interesting times.   
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Re: Charlottesville, VA.
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2017, 11:32:51 AM »
The Police didn't do anything because they told one reporter that the Mayor had ordered them to stand down. The DEMOCRAT leftest Mayor is fully to blame for the entire thing. There has been no mention of ANTIFA or BLM initiating the violence. There has only been blame pointed at the group who had the permit. The Police herded the Unite the Right into the ANTIFA and BLM crowd under threat of arrest for unlawful assembly. Then did nothing to protect them because of the Mayors orders. Those leftest are going to start a war they can't win because leftest don't believe in having guns. Actually, they do , they just don't believe the Right should have guns. Well, its too late, we have them and plenty of ammo.

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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2017, 12:25:20 PM »
 Well said plveazey BRAVO :bravo:
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2017, 12:30:30 PM »
 You missed one JMAC. "Who was at the riot"  in General.

 Britebart and The Federalist Papers don't mention who were the ones fighting against the so called white supremacist. Neither does Fox News. LiveLeak.com has two videos where it is mentioned by people that were there that they were the anti first amendment group ANTIFA. My wife just came back from NJ and she said up there it was mentioned on the news.
 Are conservatives getting scared like always and not fighting for our freedoms? :sarcasm:
 IMHO I believe Soros is behind the riot. :tinfoil:
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Re: Charlottesville, VA.
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2017, 02:01:49 PM »
A FB friend posted some nasty meme with Trump and KKK folks standing behind him. Obviously photo shopped. Anyway I expressed my doubt that posting a meme helped the situation. Well you would have thought I was Judus and a member of the KKK White supremacist. Man o' man it seems that the folks on the left are going nuts.

Heck, I think we are only one mag dump away from either extreme faction, left or right, to ignite the fuse.

You know what is funny is Nazi's and ANTIFA are both fascist groups. They are birds of a feather.
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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2017, 05:46:01 PM »
JM, the fuse has already been lit.  Charlottesville may have just been the first skirmish.
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IMHO both sides feel threatened, rhetoric has evolved into action - at that point violence is inevitable. 

as Nemo would say - ima gonna get some more peanut butter tomorrow.

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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2017, 06:33:11 PM »
 With North Korea, China and the USA facing off and India and China facing off it getting real dangerous. Especially since all involved have nuclear weapons.
 With ANTIFA, Black Lives Matter, KKK (The original Democrat Party), Neo-Nazi's and all of the other hate groups I'm not ashamed to say I'm scared. :hiding:   
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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2017, 09:35:07 PM »
I don't know if you folks checked out the two eye witness accounts or not however it is becoming public now that the Charlottesville Police were told to not get involved and the VA. State Troopers who were waiting in the wings as a reserve where told to leave. This was reported independently by several reporters.

The same reporters said that the ANTIFA croud when coming off the buses that bused them in had helmets on and were carrying sticks and clubs. Several of them were sporting canisters of bear spray. Mmmmmm, why didn't the police say, "nope not here" when they saw the offensive weapons?

As I have written, we are one mag dump away from all hell going loose.
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« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2017, 08:41:53 AM »
 INHO the President should name all of the groups that were involved as terrorist organizations. On Fox News it was mentioned even the communist party was there.   
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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2017, 09:33:54 AM »
I agree.

What we are seeing is just the beginning. The violence will escalate as we have seen around the country over the past several days.

Hey, has anybody noticed that North Korea has backed down? How come the MSM isn't talking about it this morning. Even Fox & Friends this AM only gave it a brief mention.

The violence from the fringe groups ANTIFA & ALT-Right will escalate. I wonder if both groups are being funded by Soros and his elk? The funny think is that ANTIFA and ALT-RIGHT are one in the same. They are hate, anti first amendment groups that are only separated by a very thin veneer.

We are only one mag dump away from hell on earth. 
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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2017, 04:46:18 AM »
Saying that the Communist party was there just means that Democrats were there. Democrats are following Communist doctrine and don't have the intellect to recognize it. They're so close minded that when you point out their Socialist ideals, they deny it. Its a sad state of affairs. Occasionally one will catch on and change their ideology. One down and only 150 million more to go. Conservatives say, "Leave me alone, I recognize that I'm on my own and I'll take care of myself", and Liberals say, "You need to do what I tell you because I know what's best for you." Conservatives say, "Leave me alone or I will shoot you" :boltAction:, and Liberals say, "Do what I tell you or I will shoot you" :boltAction:. Either way, somebody's gonna get shot. :gunner:

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Re: Charlottesville, VA.
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2017, 07:24:39 AM »
Yup, like Ol' Remus says, "avoid crowds."  I'm glad I'm in a rural area.  I don't know my neighbors' political views, and I don't advertise mine either.  Even innocuous things like bumper stickers can be a beacon. Lay low and observe.

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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2017, 09:15:48 AM »
Interesting.

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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2017, 09:57:40 AM »
 
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Saying that the Communist party was there just means that Democrats were there. Democrats are following Communist doctrine

If you look up the ten tenets of the communist party you will notice a strong resemblance to the democrat party platform.
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« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2017, 10:59:28 AM »
Yupper JoJo.

By the way here is another eyewitness account of the fray. https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2017/08/14/pax-dickinson-virginia-state-police-had-explicit-orders-to-drive-unite-the-right-into-the-antifa-so-wed-be-assaulted/

By the way, I am off FB for awhile as I have been relentlessly attacked and labeled a White Supremacist. To my FB friends my point has and will always be, the First Amendment. This group who protested on Friday night and again on Saturday had a permit to do so.

Some of the things they were chanting Friday night was over the top listen here here.

Then we have similar chants from the ANTIFA last summer listen here.

Two wrongs do make a right. Do not let these two groups drag the whole country into a civil war.

Remember, we are only one mag dump away from hell on earth.
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« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2017, 07:25:41 PM »
is it just me or are the antifa starting to act like fascists or is this the violent overthrow part or Marksism?
 good point JoJo.

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« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2017, 08:44:11 PM »
Oh no ANTIFA is totally about Facism.



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« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2017, 07:29:11 AM »
Ran across this article this morning. In short it based on the media success it received in Charlottesville, ANTIFA is going to ratchet up its policy of violence.

As you read this article keep in mind, we are one mag dump away from hell on earth. 
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« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2017, 09:17:31 AM »
Today General Forrest, tomorrow President Washington.

I was in the Philadelphia area yesterday and I heard on the radio that protesters are trying to bring down the statue of Mayor Rizzo.

Currently there is a police officer guarding the statue 24/7.

I did a little vetting before I posted this story. Here is the story.

Whats coming to your home town....
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« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2017, 09:35:41 AM »
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I was in the Philadelphia area yesterday and I heard on the radio that protesters are trying to bring down the statue of Mayor Rizzo.

I had a neighbor years ago that was a police bodyguard for Mayor Rizzo. He loved him as did his wife and they were black. 
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« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2017, 04:41:42 PM »
There's been some talk too about protesters destroying Mt. Rushmore.  I'd say if that goes, then all bets are off as to where this country will end up.  I'm thinking that I need to get out and see all these monuments before these idiots try to rewrite and erase history.  What's next, the Washington Monument or the Lincoln Memorial?

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« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2017, 05:10:31 PM »
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There's been some talk too about protesters destroying Mt. Rushmore.  I'd say if that goes, then all bets are off as to where this country will end up.  I'm thinking that I need to get out and see all these monuments before these idiots try to rewrite and erase history.  What's next, the Washington Monument or the Lincoln Memorial?

There trying to start a civil war and I'm serious about that.

I just received an email from my democrat Senator Carper basically saying only the KKK and white nationalists were there and the rest were just citizens.
 I politely told him other wise and said I believe the democrats were trying to hide the facts that they were the slave owners and responsible for Jim Crow and segregation.
 I wonder if I'll get an answer or a visit from the STATE POLICE. 

I also told him I was ashamed to call him my senator
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« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2017, 09:27:55 AM »
I received a similar robo-email from my former Rep. David Cicilline. I have been trying to drop his emails hover there is no way to do via his emails.

Anyway, my question to politicians is why are helping to push the country towards a Civil War? They need to think of the country not pandering to their base. They just don't get it.
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« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2017, 09:32:01 AM »
 
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my question to politicians is why are helping to push the country towards a Civil War?

Hate blinds people.
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