Trump Retaliates Against Syria

[JohnyMac]

As we were driving from RI last night we heard on the radio that the USA launched a Tomahawk missile attack against an airbase in Syria. The same airbase that the most recent saran gas attack was launched from. 

Lets keep all comments about this drama here on this subject line.

Thoughts? 

[special-k]

"Something is Not Adding Up In Idlib Chemical Weapons Attack"

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/46801.htm

April 04, 2017 "Information Clearing House" - “At least 58 people were killed in an alleged horrific gas attack in the Idlib Governorate this morning“. However, even before investigations could be conducted and for evidence to emerge, Federica Mogherini, the Italian politician High Representative of the European Union (EU) for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, condemned the Syrian government stating that the “Assad regime bears responsibility for ‘awful’ Syria ‘chemical’ attack.”

The immediate accusation from a high ranking EU official serves as a dangerous precedent where public outcry can be made even before the truth surrounding the tragedy can emerge

Israeli President, Benjamin Netanyahu, joined in on the condemnation, as did Amnesty International.

Merely hours after the alleged chemical weapons attack in Khan Sheikhun, supposedly by the Syrian government, holes are beginning to emerge from opposition sources, discrediting the Al-Qaeda affiliated White Helmets claims.

For one, seen in the above picture, the White Helmets are handling the corpses of people without sufficient safety gear, most particularly with the masks mostly used , as well as no gloves. Although this may seem insignificant, understanding the nature of sarin gas that the opposition claim was used, only opens questions.

Within seconds of exposure to sarin, the affects of the gas begins to target the muscle and nervous system. There is an almost immediate release of the bowels and the bladder, and vomiting is induced. When sarin is used in a concentrated area, it has the likelihood of killing thousands of people. Yet, such a dangerous gas, and the White Helmets are treating bodies with little concern to their exposed skin. This has to raise questions.

It also raises the question why a doctor in a hospital full of victims of sarin gas has the time to tweet and make video calls. This will probably be dismissed and forgotten however.

  @maytham956 Hmm...'Patients are flooding in' YET this 'doctor' (seems the main source of 'gas attack') has time to film, tweet and videocalls...#Syria pic.twitter.com/SfLOfjE2pG
    — Malinka (@Malinka1102) April 4, 2017

 It is also worth mentioning that Dr Shajul Islam has been struck off the medical register in the UK.

It is known that about 250 people from Majdal and Khattab were kidnapped by Al-Qaeda terrorists last week. Local sources have claimed that many of those dead from the chemical weapons were those from Majdal and Khattab. This would suggest that on the eve of upcoming peace negotiations, terrorist forces have once again created a false flag scenario. This bears resemblance to the Ghouta chemical weapons attack in August 2013 where the Syrian Army was accused of using the weapons of mass destruction on the day that United Nations Weapon’s Inspectors arrived in Damascus.
Later, Carla del Ponte, a UN weapons inspector said that there was no evidence that the government had committed the atrocity. This had however not stopped the calls for intervention against the Syrian government, a hope that the militant forces wished to eventuate from their use of chemical weapons against civilians in Ghouta.

Therefore, it is completely unsurprising that Orient TV has already prepared a “media campaign” to cover the Russian and Syrian airstrikes in neighbouring Hama countryside against terrorist forces, with the allegations that the airforces have been using chemical weapons. And most telling, their announcement of covering the use of chemical weapons by the Syrian government, hours before this allegation even emerged…….. Seems like someone forgot to tell him that it would not occur for a few more hours before his tweet.
 

    Orient TV reporter :
    "tomorrow we are launching a media campaign to cover the airstrikes on Hama country side including the usage of CW" pic.twitter.com/tZ5SWdnHp7
    — Within Syria (@WithinSyriaBlog) April 4, 2017

Meanwhile, pick up  trucks have been photographed around bodies of those killed. Again, it must be questioned why there are people around sarin gas without any protective gear, and not affected at all when it can begin attacking the body within seconds? Also, the pick up trucks remain consistent to what local sources have said were used to transport many of the victims identified as kidnapped by Al-Qaeda terrorists from pro-government towns in rural Hama.

Also, what is brought into question is where the location of the hose is coming from in the below picture, a dugout carved into the rock. This also suggests that the location is at a White Helmets base where there are dug out hiding spots carved into the mountainside and where they have easy access to equipment, as highlighted by Twitter user Ian Grant.

In response to the allegations, the Syrian Arab Army soldiers in neighbouring northern Hama denied the use of any chemicals weapons today. This is consistent with the Russian Ministry of Defense who denied any involvement in the attack.

The army “has not and does not use them, not in the past and not in the future, because it does not have them in the first place,” a military source said.

And this of course begs the question. With the Syrian Army and its allies in a comfortable position in Syria, making advances across the country, and recovering lost points in rural Hama, why would they now resort to using chemical weapons in Nusra Front occupied Idlib? It is a very simple question with no clear answer. It defies any logic that on the eve of a Syria conference in Brussels and a week before peace negotiations are to resume, that the Syrian government would blatantly use the non-existent stock of chemical weapons.

All evidence suggests this is another false chemical attack allegation made against the government as seen in the Ghouta 2013 attack where the terrorist groups hoped that former President Obama’s “red-line” would be crossed leading to US-intervention in Syria against the government.

Most telling however, is that most recent report shows that the government does not deny striking Khan Sheikhun. Al-Masdar’s Yusha Yuseef was informed by the Syrian Army that the air force targeted a missile factory in Khan Sheikoun, using a Russian-manufactured Su-22 fighter jet to carry out the attack. Most importantly, the Su-22’s bombs are unique and cannot be filled with any chemical substances, which is different to the bombs dropped from attack helicopters.

Yuseef was then told that the Syrian Air Force did not know if there were any chemical substances being stored inside the missile factory in Khan Sheikhoun. It remains to be known whether there actually were chemicals in the missile factory targeted by the airstrikes, or whether the terrorist forces used gas on the kidnapped civilians from the pro-government towns and brought them in the lorry trucks to the site of the airstrikes. Whether they were gassed by the militant forces, or the airstrikes caused a terrorist controlled chemical weapon factory to explode, the gruesome deaths of children, seen foaming in the mouth because of the gas, lays in the hands of the terrorists.

Therefore, it becomes evident that the area targeted was definitely a terrorist location, where it is known that the White Helmets share operation rooms with terrorist forces like Al-Qaeda as seen after the liberation of eastern Aleppo. Civilians and fighting forces, including Kurdish militias, have all claimed that militant groups that operate in Idlib, Hama and Aleppo countrysides, have used chemical weapons in the past.

Therefore, before the war cries begin and the denouncement of the government from high officials in power positions begin, time must be given so that all evidence can emerge. However, this is an important factor that has never existed in the Syrian War, and the terrorist forces continue to hope that Western-intervention against the government will occur, at the cost of the lives of innocent civilians.

[Deathstyle]

My IG is blowing up with about 80% of proTrump accounts saying he was dupped by false flag. They are also pointing out how all the neocons and globalists are supporting Trumps move on this. Stefan Molyneux's vid on the subject expressed my concerns very well.

[grizz]

Now he and the rest of the world know without a doubt that the US will no longer put up with this crap.

[JoJo]

 Fox News had a graphic from the military that showed the flight path of the two aircraft that dropped the gas bombs. Whether or not if it is a false flag the globalists want a world war so they can pick up the pieces and make the world in their image.

[grizz]

We're in a world war now, everyone against islamic terrorist

[JohnyMac]

What a perfect storm....

> China told in a measured way, DO NOT let N.Korea go down the path they are taking,
> Not much noise tonight on Judge Gorech moving onto the SCOTUS, and
> No news on the DEM's screaming about the Russians stealing the election.

[Nemo]

Might want to merge these 2. 

http://www.unchainedpreppers.com/forum/news/sarn-gas-in-syria/

Seems to be some question as to validity of general news/govt reports on how/why all this occurred.  One thing I am confident that I do know accurately is that the US fired 60 tomahawks into Syria.  One had a malfunction and went into the water 25 or so miles offshore.  Thats $1.6 million we should get back.

Reportedly obummer had cleared any and all chemical weapons from Syria, in cooperation with Russia about 4 years ago.  He claimed it back then and Rice mentioned it again a few months back.

Fair Inferences:

A.  If Syria still had them, Russia is feeling mighty stupid.

B.  If they did not have the chemicals, Russia is not screaming about it and its a very well done false flag op.

Either way, the US response surprised the entire world and Trump had brought at least some respect back to the U.S.  Winner in confrontation-- U.S.

Speculations as to thought process of other countries.

Iran-- we must do something so we put out a strong condemnation. 

Russia--  WTF did they do.  Putin thinking-- I had them by the short hairs and they were dancing to my music.  Methinks I must reassess the situation.  But I will send a frigate over there. 

China-- WTF are they doing.  We thought Putin had them by the short hairs.  Dayum, we must reassess the world political situation.

N. Korea--  Dayum, we better scream alot and start behaving ourselves but not act like we are behaving ourselves, but really be.

See below for a link to AlJazeera and their reports/assessment.  I always like to try to get a view and info from some other place than US news reports/stations.

I'd really like to get a viewpoint from some of our South African people.

Nemo

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/04/saudi-arabia-iran-react-strike-syria-170407054521418.html

[Deathstyle]

Doesn't make any sense for Assad to fuck himself so close to victory by using WMDs. Wasn't Trump days away from a deal where he would keep Assad in power? I'm hearing that Sarin would not have allowed those white helmets to help victims the way they did. And also that Syrian jets could have hit ISIS wmd storage. I know ISIS already has WMDs from pics from western volunteers w the kurds on IG.

*what if he Trump pulls this shit w N. Korea and it triggers a wider conflict?

[Kbop]

I find it interesting that the Russians were given a heads up - the ground support staff was absent during the attack.  The Russians want Tartus - I don't think they care about Assad, too much baggage now.

[Nemo]

I am not old enough to remember it.  Perchance someone else here does.  Shall we become doughboys? 

This international disagreement occurred on the 100th anniversary of WWI.  How many '03s ya got?

Nemo

http://www.worldwar1centennial.org/

[Kbop]

How many '03s ya got?

Nemo

http://www.worldwar1centennial.org/

i haven't seen one of those since I was on a drill team in the 1970's 

[JoJo]

Doesn't make any sense for Assad to fuck himself so close to victory by using WMDs. Wasn't Trump days away from a deal where he would keep Assad in power? I'm hearing that Sarin would not have allowed those white helmets to help victims the way they did. And also that Syrian jets could have hit ISIS wmd storage. I know ISIS already has WMDs from pics from western volunteers w the kurds on IG.

*what if he Trump pulls this shit w N. Korea and it triggers a wider conflict?

 Why did he use gas to kill his enemy? For the same reason Saddam Hussein used them. The barrel bombs drove his foe to trenches and bomb shelters when the helicopters came. The gas is heavier than air and would drop to the lowest level and it would kill them in their shelters.