Unchained Preppers
General Category => News & Politics => Topic started by: Nemo on December 12, 2019, 12:14:37 PM
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With regard to the gun rights activity pushed by VCDL (.org) and on Facebook getting the counties to declare themselves Second Amendment Sanctuaries? I haven't put much up here on this and will try to correct that.
If you are in Virginia you DAYUM SURE BETTER BE IN RICHMOND ON JAN 20. That is the standard lobby day but I have heard a news report or 2 referring to it as Gun Lobby Day. PM me if you need help figuring how to get there. I can get you a bus seat.
If you're not in Va, you best be looking at how to get involved in your state.
Its getting big. I'll give you a link to peek one you need to read.
Side note-- I live an hour or so from Lexington and Concord.
Top link will give you a good reading source starting point.
Nemo
https://www.georgiapacking.org/threads/reports-so-far.278371/ (https://www.georgiapacking.org/threads/reports-so-far.278371/)
https://www.wsls.com/news/local/2019/11/27/list-of-second-amendment-sanctuaries-in-virginia-and-where-its-being-discussed/ (https://www.wsls.com/news/local/2019/11/27/list-of-second-amendment-sanctuaries-in-virginia-and-where-its-being-discussed/)
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/the-law-is-the-law-virginia-democrats-float-prosecution-national-guard-deployment-if-police-dont-enforce-gun-control (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/the-law-is-the-law-virginia-democrats-float-prosecution-national-guard-deployment-if-police-dont-enforce-gun-control)
The Washington Examiner
Thursday, December 12, 2019
'The law is the law': Virginia Democrats float prosecution, National Guard deployment if police don't enforce gun control
by Kerry Picket | December 11, 2019
Democratic lawmakers on Capitol Hill say local police who do not enforce gun control measures likely to pass in Virginia should face prosecution and even threats of the National Guard.
After November's Virginia Legislature elections that led to Democrats taking control of both chambers, the gun control legislation proposed by some Democrats moved forward, including universal background checks, an “assault weapons” ban, and a red flag law.
Legal firearm owners in the state, however, joined with their sheriffs to form Second Amendment sanctuary counties, which declare the authorities in these municipalities uphold the Second Amendment in the face of any gun control measure passed by Richmond.
Over 75 counties in Virginia have so far adopted such Second Amendment sanctuary resolutions in the commonwealth, the latest being Spotsylvania County. The board of supervisors voted unanimously to approve a resolution declaring that county police will not enforce state-level gun laws that violate Second Amendment rights.
Virginia Democratic officials, however, already say local law enforcement supporting these resolutions will face consequences if they do not carry out any law the state Legislature passes.
“I would hope they either resign in good conscience, because they cannot uphold the law which they are sworn to uphold, or they're prosecuted for failure to fulfill their oath,” Democratic Virginia Rep. Gerry Connolly told the Washington Examiner of local county police who may refuse to enforce future gun control measures. “The law is the law. If that becomes the law, you don't have a choice, not if you're a sworn officer of the law.”
Democratic Virginia Rep. Donald McEachin suggested cutting off state funds to counties that do not comply with any gun control measures that pass in Richmond.
“They certainly risk funding, because if the sheriff's department is not going to enforce the law, they're going to lose money. The counties' attorneys offices are not going to have the money to prosecute because their prosecutions are going to go down,” he said.
McEachin also noted that Democratic Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam could call the National Guard, if necessary.
“And ultimately, I'm not the governor, but the governor may have to nationalize the National Guard to enforce the law,” he said. “That's his call, because I don't know how serious these counties are and how severe the violations of law will be. But that's obviously an option he has.”
Virginia Attorney General Mark Herring blamed the numerous Second Amendment resolutions in the state on the “gun lobby” as a tactic to frighten state residents.
“The resolutions that are being passed are being ginned up by the gun lobby to try to scare people. What we’re talking about here are laws that will make our communities and our streets safer,” Herring told CBS 6.
“So, when Virginia passes these gun safety laws that they will be followed, they will be enforced,” he added.
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The Washington Examiner made one obvious mistake.
Virginia Democratic officials
. It is the Democrat Party not the democratic party.
Having lived in the Peoples Republic of New York (Staten Island) and the Police State of New Jersey I understand what these laws will do to your safety and freedom.
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Yes, I've been following the entire debacle very closely. The entire situation follows almost precisely what happened in New York, with their "SAFE" act. The citizens of NY were suppose to register their "assault" weapons, but less than 1% complied. It'll be interesting to see how Virginians react to Ralphie's shenanigans. IMHO, the governor and legislature should be tried for treason. If found guilty by a jury; they should be hung. I recently saw a quote, which I can't find, that more or less said that if a certain 100 people were taken out into the street and shot, then there would be a lot fewer problems. One problem with that idea is which 100 would you choose? Knowing human nature, the pogrom would never stop at 100.
I see Patriot Nurse is worked up about the Virginia situation: https://youtu.be/HjdAZIGynwM If the National Guard is sent out to do law enforcement, it would be a bad precedent. And I'm guessing that a lot of Virginia National Guardsmen are probably from rural areas, and they've sworn to uphold the Constitution, not Ralphie's minions bogus laws. It would be amusing if the N.G. instead presented Ralphie to Law Enforcement for a treason trial. I hope Nemo that you're ready for spicy time. I've got a bad feeling that it'll envelop the entire country. The common man is tired of the progressive bullshit.
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Like a said before, I keep my friends close and rifle closer. In addition to that I keep my sidearm always at my side.
Nemo
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There once was a man who was in such a hurry to get where he wanted to go, that he went so fast that he got out in front and ran over himself. These Damn Democrats don't realize that a lot of Virginia Democrats own firearms and when the next election comes around the idiot Democrat Lawmakers will get themselves voted right out of office. :chuky:
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Yes I have been watching it.
Some State Democrats want to pass the laws and when a Sheriff does not comply send in the State National Guard to enforce it.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/the-law-is-the-law-virginia-democrats-float-prosecution-national-guard-deployment-if-police-dont-enforce-gun-control (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/the-law-is-the-law-virginia-democrats-float-prosecution-national-guard-deployment-if-police-dont-enforce-gun-control)
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I was listening to someone discussing this subject on Ham radio tonight. They said that the Sheriff in their county said that if the General Assembly passes the law, he would deputize every eligible citizen in the county. I thought that was pretty slick.
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With regard to the gun rights activity pushed by VCDL (.org) and on Facebook getting the counties to declare themselves Second Amendment Sanctuaries? I haven't put much up here on this and will try to correct that.
If you are in Virginia you DAYUM SURE BETTER BE IN RICHMOND ON JAN 20. That is the standard lobby day but I have heard a news report or 2 referring to it as Gun Lobby Day. PM me if you need help figuring how to get there. I can get you a bus seat.
If you're not in Va, you best be looking at how to get involved in your state.
Its getting big. I'll give you a link to peek one you need to read.
Side note-- I live an hour or so from Lexington and Concord.
Top link will give you a good reading source starting point.
Nemo
https://www.georgiapacking.org/threads/reports-so-far.278371/ (https://www.georgiapacking.org/threads/reports-so-far.278371/)
https://www.wsls.com/news/local/2019/11/27/list-of-second-amendment-sanctuaries-in-virginia-and-where-its-being-discussed/ (https://www.wsls.com/news/local/2019/11/27/list-of-second-amendment-sanctuaries-in-virginia-and-where-its-being-discussed/)
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/the-law-is-the-law-virginia-democrats-float-prosecution-national-guard-deployment-if-police-dont-enforce-gun-control (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/the-law-is-the-law-virginia-democrats-float-prosecution-national-guard-deployment-if-police-dont-enforce-gun-control)
The Washington Examiner
Thursday, December 12, 2019
'The law is the law': Virginia Democrats float prosecution, National Guard deployment if police don't enforce gun control
by Kerry Picket | December 11, 2019
Democratic lawmakers on Capitol Hill say local police who do not enforce gun control measures likely to pass in Virginia should face prosecution and even threats of the National Guard.
After November's Virginia Legislature elections that led to Democrats taking control of both chambers, the gun control legislation proposed by some Democrats moved forward, including universal background checks, an “assault weapons” ban, and a red flag law.
Legal firearm owners in the state, however, joined with their sheriffs to form Second Amendment sanctuary counties, which declare the authorities in these municipalities uphold the Second Amendment in the face of any gun control measure passed by Richmond.
Over 75 counties in Virginia have so far adopted such Second Amendment sanctuary resolutions in the commonwealth, the latest being Spotsylvania County. The board of supervisors voted unanimously to approve a resolution declaring that county police will not enforce state-level gun laws that violate Second Amendment rights.
Virginia Democratic officials, however, already say local law enforcement supporting these resolutions will face consequences if they do not carry out any law the state Legislature passes.
“I would hope they either resign in good conscience, because they cannot uphold the law which they are sworn to uphold, or they're prosecuted for failure to fulfill their oath,” Democratic Virginia Rep. Gerry Connolly told the Washington Examiner of local county police who may refuse to enforce future gun control measures. “The law is the law. If that becomes the law, you don't have a choice, not if you're a sworn officer of the law.”
Democratic Virginia Rep. Donald McEachin suggested cutting off state funds to counties that do not comply with any gun control measures that pass in Richmond.
“They certainly risk funding, because if the sheriff's department is not going to enforce the law, they're going to lose money. The counties' attorneys offices are not going to have the money to prosecute because their prosecutions are going to go down,” he said.
McEachin also noted that Democratic Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam could call the National Guard, if necessary.
“And ultimately, I'm not the governor, but the governor may have to nationalize the National Guard to enforce the law,” he said. “That's his call, because I don't know how serious these counties are and how severe the violations of law will be. But that's obviously an option he has.”
Virginia Attorney General Mark Herring blamed the numerous Second Amendment resolutions in the state on the “gun lobby” as a tactic to frighten state residents.
“The resolutions that are being passed are being ginned up by the gun lobby to try to scare people. What we’re talking about here are laws that will make our communities and our streets safer,” Herring told CBS 6.
“So, when Virginia passes these gun safety laws that they will be followed, they will be enforced,” he added.
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I am not in VA but I just sent, what i think is a, above average donation to VADL.
There will be more frothcoming too.
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More info. Look at the Big BOLD part. That is since the elections a bit more than a month ago.
The really important part of that is when we go lobbying on Jan 20, its all organized, teams, similar talking point and all. It really makes a difference when a team leader tells a Delegate-- I am here for VCDL, we have 7500 members. That makes a bit of an impression. But when one of us tells them-- we have 15,000 or 20,000 members it makes one helluva lot bigger difference. When I go and tell them-- our membership has doubled since the election and continues to grow I think it will have an impact.
JOIN if you are in VA. Or not.
Nemo
Go here: https://vcdl.org/ (https://vcdl.org/)
That is the best source for info. Or hunt up Virginia Citizens Defense League on FB. I think this is it, but I don't do FB so you may need more hunting.
https://www.facebook.com/VCDL.ORG (https://www.facebook.com/VCDL.ORG)
AND
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2372500698/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/2372500698/)
Interesting note from that site:
13,790 Members
6,491+ in the last 30 days
But to make it simple for those who just want what I share here go sign up for that email here: https://vcdl.org/VA-ALERT (https://vcdl.org/VA-ALERT)
Its easy to get off the list if you choose to. No spam either.
Progress is being made. This link takes you to a map of it.
https://www.facebook.com/VCDL.ORG/photos/a.772237716127233/3513781868639457/ (https://www.facebook.com/VCDL.ORG/photos/a.772237716127233/3513781868639457/)
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Map.
Nemo
(https://i.imgur.com/11H6OeY.jpg)
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Map.
Nemo
(https://i.imgur.com/11H6OeY.jpg)
Will they go full on sanctuary for the 2A or just in regards to the current BS? It would be nice to see guys running around with cans, playing with full autos, etc... :gunner: :cheers:
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One step at a time.
Nemo
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Map.
Nemo
(https://i.imgur.com/11H6OeY.jpg)
Will they go full on sanctuary for the 2A or just in regards to the current BS? It would be nice to see guys running around with cans, playing with full autos, etc... :gunner: :cheers:
The Supreme court let them get away with banning full-autos in the late 1930's because you can have all the full autos you want as long as you buy a $200 tax stamp for each one. The 2A Sanctuary Counties are basically addressing the latest BS legislation. With that said, most of the Sheriffs I've seen on the news all pretty much said that they would not enforce an unconstitutional law because they swore an oath to protect the Constitution.
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VA is a good place to make a stand - It's kinda in their history.
= I don't live in VA but i support their rights!
the constant erosion and dilution of the Bill of Rights is, er, troubling. 2A is just one example.
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This might be a good time for all VA members to think of their fitness.
You must be able to do a short sprint with your rig (without injuring yourself)... and to march at least a few miles with an assault load load (water, ammo, rifle), again without injuring yourself... in terrain to be tactically useful... this goes even for those who plan on being that "retreat sniper"... even the sniper must be able to cover terrain on foot without getting too debilitated by lack of fitness.
This is perfectly possible for anyone who is not outright handicapped, even if older.
Start a 8 week program:
Twice a week a ruck march (doesnt have to be crazy far, just get used to walking with a load)
And twice a week iron pumps....; they can be light but should include a) mobility related exercises (squats with light weights, even air squats are ok in week 1, back extensions on roman chair w/o weights , calf raises for example,, every gym has a trainer.. tell them you want more agility and mobility with a load in terrain) and b) weapon handling exercises (such as frontal raises and lateral raises)
Go easy in week 1 and 2... then push yourself just a little harder each week..
If you do this, you will feel like a new man in a mere 8 weeks.
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Some things to think about.
1) Whom is behind this protest? Could it be a dark ops kind of thing?
2) Will this be another Charlottesville, VA. thing? Will the Antifa be there? What benefit does the 2A group receive by
showing up in mass with weapons on their shoulders and plate-carriers slung around their chests?
3) If you go, go unarmed and leave your cellphones at home. Do you think the alphabet agency's will not be flying drones
collecting everyone's IP addresses?
4) The populous apposed more gun control laws and are doing the right thing by pushing for 2A Sanctuary laws by county
based on the maps posted here. Why do this? It will only upset the cat ladies, liberals in DC, and justify harsher gun
control.
Clinton started the Civil Society 2.0 back in 2009. In essence the US State Department trains young people in technology and when the time is right they are released. We have seen in in Egypt (Arab Spring), Libya, Syria, Ukraine, and most recently Chile. Is the USofA next?
Let the :shitStorm: begin....
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Some things to think about.
1) Whom is behind this protest? Could it be a dark ops kind of thing?
2) Will this be another Charlottesville, VA. thing? Will the Antifa be there? What benefit does the 2A group receive by
showing up in mass with weapons on their shoulders and plate-carriers slung around their chests?
3) If you go, go unarmed and leave your cellphones at home. Do you think the alphabet agency's will not be flying drones
collecting everyone's IP addresses?
4) The populous apposed more gun control laws and are doing the right thing by pushing for 2A Sanctuary laws by county
based on the maps posted here. Why do this? It will only upset the cat ladies, liberals in DC, and justify harsher gun
control.
Clinton started the Civil Society 2.0 back in 2009. In essence the US State Department trains young people in technology and when the time is right they are released. We have seen in in Egypt (Arab Spring), Libya, Syria, Ukraine, and most recently Chile. Is the USofA next?
Let the :shitStorm: begin....
If the left isnt afraid to demonstrate but we are then maybe they deserve to win!
Everyone who is in driving distance needs to show!
Who should come?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74BzSTQCl_c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74BzSTQCl_c)
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When I am working a VCDL recruiting table at a gun show in Va, I ask if my prospect is a member. If not, Have you heard of VCDL-- If no, We are a State Gun Rights organization, very similar to the NRA-- but a fair bit more hardcore.
That gets a pile real interested right off. If you come to Va and go to a gun show, find the VCDL recruiting table. They can get you into the show free, if you join.
Lobby Day has been going on in Va for many years. There are always many groups and people there politicking. You may recall/ about a newscaster lady who was killed at Smith Mountain Lake part, live on tv on a 6am broadcast by a former reporter at the same station. Her boyfriend/soon to be hubby back then ran for state delegate on gun control/her shooting and was elected. Her father is there every year (with big pics of her) pushing for more gun control. Moms Demand Action are there.
There will be groups there on No Nukes, Go Solar, Ban Oil, Socialism for All and most political theories you can imagine.
VCDL has been going a long time and in the past we generally had 3-500 people out there. EVERY state Delegate and Senator gets a visit by lobby team. I expect a crapton more than that this year. Last couple years we had 4 buses set up from or through all parts. This year we have 9 and other groups are sponsoring about another dozen or so.
We pre-organize with team leaders who grab 10-15 members and go see a couple reps with coordinated talking points and try to get the Fafirfax team seeing Fairfax reps full of Fairfax residents and such.
VCDL got Va from May Issue to Shall Issue on CWPs in 2004 IIRC. When Northam was first elected there were 67 gun control bills filed for consideration. We kill them all. 4 pro-gun bills were filed and we got 2 passed and signed.
Near every VCDL person there will be carrying and I cannot recall ever seeing a long gun in the mass.
I have no doubt we are infiltrated, watched, filmed, catalogued, scoped out, noted, tabulated and each has their own personal file folder.
Come south (or whichever), join the bunch and get your own file. Hunt me up, get on my team and you need say nothing. But when you get home you will have a Serious sense of-- Been fighting against gun control for many years but TODAY I was able to really do something.
You will not soon forget that.
As far as transportation, there will be a Bus or other ride set up from about anywhere in VA you are. Cost is $35 to cover bus fees but you can afford that. Skip lunch or bullets a day or 2. This is more important. Details are on the bottom link below.
Nemo
questions-- go here: https://www.facebook.com/VCDL.ORG (https://www.facebook.com/VCDL.ORG)
or just-- VCDL.ORG
FAQs from 2020 Lobby Day
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HNetTtLzfzcshbdTcQBv6eOxzN-qXOd21uPGuedFDGM/edit (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HNetTtLzfzcshbdTcQBv6eOxzN-qXOd21uPGuedFDGM/edit)
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Update.
Nemo
https://mailchi.mp/8b60c6bce77e/va-alert-lobby-day-flyers-hopewell-and-zenith-firearms
Distribution of Lobby Day Flyers
What's going on in Hopewell with the 2A Sanctuary resolution?
Zenith Firearms to contribute
1. Distribution of Lobby Day Flyers
VCDL is having Lobby Day Flyers (LDF) printed.
If you are able, and willing, to distribute these in quantity we could use your help. Think...
UNRELATED INFO DELETED, IF YOU WANT TO READ, CLICK LINK ABOVE.
Again, if you can help out in distributing these flyers, contact our Lobby Day Flyer Coordinator at LDF@VCDL.ORG with the above info.
2. What's going on in Hopewell with the 2A Sanctuary resolution?
Brandon Howard (Hopewell GOP Chair) provided the following information:
The Hopewell City council might put it on the agenda for January 2020.
Normally, a member of the City Council is the one who requests items to be put on the agenda
Brandon is spearheading an effort to get as many citizens of Hopewell as possible to sign a petition declaring the City of Hopewell a Second Amendment Sanctuary City.
Brandon will accept signatures right up to the start of the January 2020 City Council meeting and plans on presenting the petition at that meeting.
If you want to help circulate the petition, contact Brandon at: brandon@brandonwhoward.com or on Facebook at Brandon Howard for Hopewell City Council. He is posting daily on his Facebook page where & when he will be so people can sign.
3. Zenith Firearms to contribute
Zenith Firearms, an Afton, Virginia based importer and distributor of Turkish-made, formerly licensed copies of the H&K MP5 and its variants, has created a shirt they are selling. They will contribute 20% of their profits on the new shirt to VCDL for use in the battle against our common enemies.
https://zenithfirearms.com/product/awesome-t-shirt/
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When I am working a VCDL recruiting table at a gun show in Va, I ask if my prospect is a member. If not, Have you heard of VCDL-- If no, We are a State Gun Rights organization, very similar to the NRA-- but a fair bit more hardcore.
That gets a pile real interested right off. If you come to Va and go to a gun show, find the VCDL recruiting table. They can get you into the show free, if you join.
Lobby Day has been going on in Va for many years. There are always many groups and people there politicking. You may recall/ about a newscaster lady who was killed at Smith Mountain Lake part, live on tv on a 6am broadcast by a former reporter at the same station. Her boyfriend/soon to be hubby back then ran for state delegate on gun control/her shooting and was elected. Her father is there every year (with big pics of her) pushing for more gun control. Moms Demand Action are there.
There will be groups there on No Nukes, Go Solar, Ban Oil, Socialism for All and most political theories you can imagine.
VCDL has been going a long time and in the past we generally had 3-500 people out there. EVERY state Delegate and Senator gets a visit by lobby team. I expect a crapton more than that this year. Last couple years we had 4 buses set up from or through all parts. This year we have 9 and other groups are sponsoring about another dozen or so.
We pre-organize with team leaders who grab 10-15 members and go see a couple reps with coordinated talking points and try to get the Fafirfax team seeing Fairfax reps full of Fairfax residents and such.
VCDL got Va from May Issue to Shall Issue on CWPs in 2004 IIRC. When Northam was first elected there were 67 gun control bills filed for consideration. We kill them all. 4 pro-gun bills were filed and we got 2 passed and signed.
Near every VCDL person there will be carrying and I cannot recall ever seeing a long gun in the mass.
I have no doubt we are infiltrated, watched, filmed, catalogued, scoped out, noted, tabulated and each has their own personal file folder.
Come south (or whichever), join the bunch and get your own file. Hunt me up, get on my team and you need say nothing. But when you get home you will have a Serious sense of-- Been fighting against gun control for many years but TODAY I was able to really do something.
You will not soon forget that.
As far as transportation, there will be a Bus or other ride set up from about anywhere in VA you are. Cost is $35 to cover bus fees but you can afford that. Skip lunch or bullets a day or 2. This is more important. Details are on the bottom link below.
Nemo
questions-- go here: https://www.facebook.com/VCDL.ORG (https://www.facebook.com/VCDL.ORG)
or just-- VCDL.ORG
FAQs from 2020 Lobby Day
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HNetTtLzfzcshbdTcQBv6eOxzN-qXOd21uPGuedFDGM/edit (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HNetTtLzfzcshbdTcQBv6eOxzN-qXOd21uPGuedFDGM/edit)
Keep at it.. I am not currently anywhere near VA as you know.
But I will keep donating real $$.
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Thank you gentlemen for your input and by no means am I saying nobody should go; go understanding the risks. I am a pretty big PERSEC (Personal Security guy) so although I am with the VCDL at a 100,000-foot level, I will wait till it is time to pull their butt out of the wringer before I drop south of the Mason Dixon line.
Some additional thoughts:
> Every bus coming in will have a UC or CI person on board.
> As a SOF friend told me at dinner last night, the VCDL will sign up anybody with NO vetting. So the organization is as
solid as "Swiss Cheese". He finished his thought with..."most likely full of infiltrators."
> Again, their will be drones flying over from DC central copying everyone's IP address and copying conversations for
further analysis.
> Any violence, regardless who starts it, will be blamed on those 2A Terrorists; Consequently, Trump will do what ever
the Elites want him to do. He will not put blame on both sides for sure as he did post C'Ville.
Anyway, go if you must and make frequent reports here on UP. Leave your cell phone at home, do not use an analog HT (Handi Talkie - Walkie Talkie) for coms. Rather use a HT that is setup for DPMR or even simply DMR with a 64-bit encryption key. If forced to use analog then a Brevity code is a must ; However, a Brevity code would involve a lot of forethought and organization which an organization like VCDL does not have, as it is a public $ponsored org that ha$ all kind$ of folk$ $igning up.
A good friend, an alumnist from the sand box, and a Recon & Surveillance specialist, shared this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu3_EOKfhVQ) with me.
Thank you for the open discussion gentlemen. :cheers:
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If the left isnt afraid to demonstrate but we are then maybe they deserve to win!
Everyone who is in driving distance needs to show!
Who should come?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74BzSTQCl_c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74BzSTQCl_c)
I agree
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Thank you gentlemen for your input and by no means am I saying nobody should go; go understanding the risks. I am a pretty big PERSEC (Personal Security guy) so although I am with the VCDL at a 100,000-foot level, I will wait till it is time to pull their butt out of the wringer before I drop south of the Mason Dixon line.
Some additional thoughts:
> Every bus coming in will have a UC or CI person on board.
> As a SOF friend told me at dinner last night, the VCDL will sign up anybody with NO vetting. So the organization is as
solid as "Swiss Cheese". He finished his thought with..."most likely full of infiltrators."
> Again, their will be drones flying over from DC central copying everyone's IP address and copying conversations for
further analysis.
> Any violence, regardless who starts it, will be blamed on those 2A Terrorists; Consequently, Trump will do what ever
the Elites want him to do. He will not put blame on both sides for sure as he did post C'Ville.
Anyway, go if you must and make frequent reports here on UP. Leave your cell phone at home, do not use an analog HT (Handi Talkie - Walkie Talkie) for coms. Rather use a HT that is setup for DPMR or even simply DMR with a 64-bit encryption key. If forced to use analog then a Brevity code is a must ; However, a Brevity code would involve a lot of forethought and organization which an organization like VCDL does not have, as it is a public $ponsored org that ha$ all kind$ of folk$ $igning up.
A good friend, an alumnist from the sand box, and a Recon & Surveillance specialist, shared this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu3_EOKfhVQ) with me.
Thank you for the open discussion gentlemen. :cheers:
When I live in the SW I had a hermit friend who lived in the desert. He had a photographic memory, really incredible talking with him. Anyway I thought he was off base when he spoke of black helicopters, big brother and the like but over 20 years later I realize he was right. I think of him when I read your posts :cheers:
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Johny, that software/SDR system is interesting. And that's why the patriots need to have EMP capabilities to be used against the Opfor. There's nothing like leveling the playing field. And when the Opfor depends heavily upon electronic surveillance, remove that capability and they're deaf and blind. In any case, humanint will end up the most important; the difficulty will be distributing that information.
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VCDL is a political single issue organization. Not any type of 3% belief organization. You need not be UC or CI or whatever. If you are LEO or Fed or whoever, we still welcome you.
JM, did you take the right pills this morning. You might have missed the blue one. Consider that deleted. I did wrong. Apologies sent.
Nemo
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Johny, that software/SDR system is interesting. And that's why the patriots need to have EMP capabilities to be used against the Opfor. There's nothing like leveling the playing field. And when the Opfor depends heavily upon electronic surveillance, remove that capability and they're deaf and blind. In any case, humanint will end up the most important; the difficulty will be distributing that information.
In theory, I have to agree about having some kind of EMP system to take out the other guys coms. The problem with EMP's is that they also take out your own coms. Its a bit like defending yourself from being captured using a hand grenade. :dancingGrenade: You also get blown up. There actually is a workaround though. Radio receivers have a detector diode that strips the RF signal and leaves the audio signal. If you can get close enough to the other guys antenna system, you can transmit a couple of thousand watts on the frequency they are using and it will blow out the very sensitive Detector Diode. :cowboy: They can still transmit but they are deaf. Now, if you can directly connect into their coax system, you can render their receiver deaf with only a few watts. The danger is you don't want to be connecting at a time when they are transmitting unless you like RF burns. :facepalm: Then there's the old needle through the coax thing that will short the transmitter out when they transmit. The problem with that is that their radios probably have an SWR protection circuit that drops the transmitted power down when the SWR is too high. :pissed: Then there is always the old completely cut their coax system. They'll be down until they can find the cut and install a barrel connector and two Connectors. Then there's the tricky one where you create a "Suckout". You squeeze the coax hard enough to make the center conductor almost touch the shield. When the RF gets to the squeezed area, the signal gets sucked out to the shield and hardly any of the signal reaches the antenna. The Suckout also causes a really bad SWR problem that an antenna tuner can't fix. I've never done any of these things but I once heard a guy talk about it. :lmfao: :lmfao:
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@Pkveazey
i've always been fond of a tuned spark gap.
12 vdc battery, to an old fashioned coil (from a car or truck) to a sparkplug in a tin-can.
attach the can to an antenna tuned to your favorite frequency or even use a directional antenna.
if you rig 3 or 4 omni's offset by a few hundred yards - the system interferance will mess up the 0pf0r int3rfer0metery (read, they will have a hard time finding the emitters). the antenna is your filter - 1/4 wave at close range works. so 2 coat hangers in a boxkite config works. the white noise off the sparkplug is your RF source. if your math is good, calibrate the can and skip the antenna. I saw one op where someone attached the output to a perimeter fence >:D using a nearby power point on a light pole - into a 14VDC inverter. the EW guys finally cried uncle and asked the red team what they had done - i was sitting in on the AR. :lmfao:
one other 'cute' trick - if you can get close enough to mess with their coax - put your 'noise maker' mentioned above near their generator earth ground and leave. The noise floor on their AC powered gear or gear plugged into an inverter will loose them 30+dB of sensitivity. the trick is to mess with the earth ground - it leaks into the ground plane on the receivers. Most rigs RF filters are on the input side. :) ask anyone who has used RF gear with a generator and forgotten to double check their earth ground. this won't blind high end gear but mobile gear is very susceptible to this when using shore power.
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Thank you Nemo.
You are A SCHOLAR AND GENTLEMAN. :thumbsUp:
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For what it is worth, I agree 100% with Johnny. If you are going you better have PERSEC and OPSEC squared away
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Also, here is some more info (IMO, open carrying is stupid anyways, particularly with a long gun, but they specifically do not want you to show up like that).
Monday, January 20, is Virginia Citizens Defense League's Lobby Day. It is not VCDL's Protest Day.
There is a distinct difference between the two.
Lobby Day is about, well, lobbying – sending a message to the General Assembly and to the Governor, Attorney General, and the Lt. Governor. That message is simple: no more gun control that in any way, shape, or form negatively affects law-abiding gun owners. Bills that go after criminals or bills that are beneficial to gun owners are fine.
While there have been some verbal threats by the Democrat leadership to push major gun control down the throats of Virginia's gun owners and some very bad bills already filed to back up that threat, NOTHING has happened yet and won't until after January 8th 2020. And perhaps it won't happen at all if we press hard enough.
The second amendment sanctuary movement, with its absolutely massive turnouts of gun owners, is sending a deafening message to lawmakers ahead of Lobby Day. On top of that, we now believe the size of the crowd on Lobby Day could be absolutely incredible, possibly historic if gun owners from around the state follow through and attend as we believe they will. You will absolutely want to be a part of this!
Militias
Various militia groups from Virginia and nearby states have graciously volunteered to provide security. With a large Capitol, Richmond, and State police presence, not to mention enough citizens armed with handguns to take over a modern mid-sized country, we have the security base covered nicely. That said, we welcome our militia brothers and sisters to be part of making the day a success! Some militia groups are looking to take canned food donations during Lobby Day and deliver them to a Richmond Food Bank. Please contribute.
Long Guns
If you are asking how you can help with VCDL's mission, carrying long guns at Lobby Day is not helpful – it is a distraction. Virginia Citizens Defense League's important messages inevitably get lost as the press rushes to get pictures of anyone carrying an AR or AK. The stories then become about the rifle, not Virginia Citizens Defense League's agenda. You can set your watch by it. Long guns are not easy to carry in a crowd, either. VCDL needs its voice heard loud and clear in order to able to stop the onslaught of gun-control bills.
Laws you need to know for carry in Richmond
You can't have a magazine in a centerfire rifle or pistol that holds more than 20 rounds unless you have a Concealed Handgun Permit (CHP). You must also have a Virginia CHP if the centerfire rifle or pistol has a threaded barrel or a folding stock. Click here to see the code section, which also covers similar restrictions on shotguns: 18.2-287.4
Open carry without a CHP is legal in Virginia, but watch the restrictions in the previous paragraph.
You need a CHP to carry in the General Assembly or Capitol Building. Once through security, you can carry openly or concealed in the buildings. You cannot carry in the gallery over the Senator Floor. Keep an eye on these alerts. Should any of this change, we will notify you here.
Virginia Citizens Defense League Lobby Day is a peaceful event about gun rights and NOTHING ELSE
We are NOT there to have arguments with the other side. They lobby, we lobby, and never the two shall meet. Just ignore them.
And we are not there to push any other agenda. Our total focus is on protecting our right to keep and bear arms. Period. This is not about flags, statues, history, etc. Just guns.
If you somehow find yourself being harassed by the other side, don't engage them. They could well be baiting you and recording what you do for propaganda purposes. If necessary, go find a police officer and let them take care of the person causing the disturbance. Otherwise, just ignore them and go about your business.
VCDL has a great relationship with the Capitol Police, the Richmond Police, the Virginia State Police, and most other law enforcement agencies in the Commonwealth. We welcome their presence and are glad they are there to keep everything peaceful, while we work on the job at hand.
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This should be a great event, with freedom-loving Americans from all walks of life standing should-to-should to protect our most precious civil right – the right of self-defense. See you there!
https://www.ammoland.com/2019/12/virginia-important-statement-about-vcdl-capital-lobby-day-jan-20th-2020/ (https://www.ammoland.com/2019/12/virginia-important-statement-about-vcdl-capital-lobby-day-jan-20th-2020/)
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A bit more from your link patriotman. Note, Phillip Van Cleave is President of VCDL.
Nemo
Read more: https://www.ammoland.com/2019/12/virginia-important-statement-about-vcdl-capital-lobby-day-jan-20th-2020/#ixzz68Uz11S7b (https://www.ammoland.com/2019/12/virginia-important-statement-about-vcdl-capital-lobby-day-jan-20th-2020/#ixzz68Uz11S7b)
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Virginia: Important Statement about VCDL Capital Lobby Day, Jan 20th 2020
Ammoland Inc. Posted on December 18, 2019 by Philip Van Cleave
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Update just received from VCDL.
Nemo
https://mailchi.mp/692b658f751c/va-alerttue-dec-17-sanctuary-results-more-good-news-101-sanctuaries (https://mailchi.mp/692b658f751c/va-alerttue-dec-17-sanctuary-results-more-good-news-101-sanctuaries)
The following six localities became sanctuaries tonight, making the total 101!:
Franklin County - Unanimous, 400+ in middle of the work day
Mathews County - Unanimous, 500+ in middle of the work day
Prince Edward County - 4 to 3, 550+, voted down a weaker resolution and passed a stronger one!
Stafford County - Unanimous, 3,000+
Town of Vinton - 4 to 1, 60+
York County - 4 to 1, 800+
500+ gun owners showed up in Clarke County to urge the Board of Supervisors to put a 2A Sanctuary resolution on their agenda. The Board of Supervisors is considering having a special meeting to do so.
News Coverage:
https://www.wsls.com/news/local/2019/12/17/franklin-county-becomes-virginias-latest-second-amendment-sanctuary/ (https://www.wsls.com/news/local/2019/12/17/franklin-county-becomes-virginias-latest-second-amendment-sanctuary/)
https://www.roanoke.com/news/local/franklin-county-supervisors-carefully-embrace-second-amendment-sanctuary-status/article_f214bfa8-659f-50bf-ad30-ecb448635ebc.html (https://www.roanoke.com/news/local/franklin-county-supervisors-carefully-embrace-second-amendment-sanctuary-status/article_f214bfa8-659f-50bf-ad30-ecb448635ebc.html)
https://wydaily.com/local-news/2019/12/17/york-county-passes-resolution-to-become-constitutional-county/ (https://wydaily.com/local-news/2019/12/17/york-county-passes-resolution-to-become-constitutional-county/)
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I have mentioned the Lobby Day going on in Richmond on 20 Jan 20. Seems the opposition has taken notice of the 2A Sanctuary movement starting here.
From the early indications on the size of the turnout I have paid attention to I suspect we will make a couple network reports. And likely not just cable news.
But we have made the gun control Big Time. Big enough someone seems to think we might be more than deplorable.
You really MUST be there if you vote in Va.
Nemo
https://everytown.org/documents/2019/12/19-12-19-sheriffs-letter.pdf/
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This ongoing Gun Control thing is something to keep a close eye on. From the moment I saw what our Gov. was trying to get, I realized that he was asking for the world and everything in it so when the public cried FOUL, he could fall back to getting as much of it as possible even though he knew that there was no way he would get it all. From my side of the fence, I don't want him to get ANY of what he is asking for. This creeping gun control will eventually get them what they want if we don't stop them on every item. Don't be fooled when they back off a bit and call it a compromise. Its not a compromise, its exactly what they set out to do.
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I have mentioned the Lobby Day going on in Richmond on 20 Jan 20. Seems the opposition has taken notice of the 2A Sanctuary movement starting here.
From the early indications on the size of the turnout I have paid attention to I suspect we will make a couple network reports. And likely not just cable news.
But we have made the gun control Big Time. Big enough someone seems to think we might be more than deplorable.
You really MUST be there if you vote in Va.
Nemo
https://everytown.org/documents/2019/12/19-12-19-sheriffs-letter.pdf/
FOX news had a blurb on it this morning, wish I caught the whole thing
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I worked a recruiting table at a Gun Show in Salem Va today. Small show that was held in a 6800 seat civic center. Couple hundred tables at best.
We signed up 119 new members between 9:30am and 4:30pm.
Seems some people deciding to get a bit politically active.
Some politicians might begin to think a bit. Be sure to keep an eye on the news in Jan 20.
Nemo
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2372500698/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/2372500698/)
Regarding VCDL membership.
From Dec 13.
13,790 Members
From Dec 21.
14,930 Members
The poll below is about 6-7 hours old. GO there, click there.
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/poll-do-you-think-people-should-be-allowed-carry-guns-public (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/poll-do-you-think-people-should-be-allowed-carry-guns-public)
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I just found this video. Twenty two min long but watch it to the end. May have been posted before?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk_md3j5YZg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk_md3j5YZg)
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I just found this video. Twenty two min long but watch it to the end. May have been posted before?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk_md3j5YZg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk_md3j5YZg)
Buy more guns, buy more ammo, and buy more magazines. We're gonna need 'em. Those fools are trying to start a war and they might actually do it.
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So you going to be in Richmond on 20 Jan PK?
Nemo
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Found interesting commentary.
Nemo
(http://i.imgur.com/FbtQyQg.jpg)
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I wonder if any Virginian patriot group will be using HF on that Lobby Day. It would be good to be able to communicate if the government forces stir the pot, and shut down both cellphone and internet communications.
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Great question Jackalope.
40-meters will be open from about 0800 hrs eastern through 2300 hrs eastern when 75/80 opens up till 0800 hrs eastern.
Nemo, maybe you could find out.
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Know little about this aspect/ham stuff, but will try to learn what I can.
Nemo
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I can't imagine the State Government interfering with anything that is controlled and regulated by the FCC. I don't think HF Ham radio will even be needed. 2 Meter repeaters should be up and running. The State stepping on my toes is one thing but the State stepping on the Federal Governments toes is altogether another thing. I'm pretty sure there will be plenty of Hams at the Capital and keeping everyone informed of what's going on.
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I defer to your knowledge and expertise on ham things pk. Unless they are 4 legged self mobile.
Nemo
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I can't imagine the State Government interfering with anything that is controlled and regulated by the FCC. I don't think HF Ham radio will even be needed. 2 Meter repeaters should be up and running. The State stepping on my toes is one thing but the State stepping on the Federal Governments toes is altogether another thing. I'm pretty sure there will be plenty of Hams at the Capital and keeping everyone informed of what's going on.
Never underestimate the enemy. It's best to be prepared for every imaginable possibility. The State government is preparing to interfere with Constitutional rights, and they've already discussed turning off the power and communications in sanctuary areas. Why would they hesitate on turning off communications while they instigate a dark swan event? It's pretty easy to interfere with an amateur repeater or jam them, but it's a little more difficult to jam HF signals, due to the frequencies and power available. An HF mobile station could prove to be a real asset. I'm sure some of the attending groups have already made the necessary preparations, especially if they have any ex-military comm guys.
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I want to take the time here to thank Nemo for all his tireless activism for the 2A in VA.. :thumbsUp:
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I want to take the time here to thank Nemo for all his tireless activism for the 2A in VA.. :thumbsUp:
:cheers:
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I want to take the time here to thank Nemo for all his tireless activism for the 2A in VA.. :thumbsUp:
:cheers:
agreed :cheers:
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Welcome or whatever. But its unnecessary.
Y'all just figure on spending a weekend here next year. Or later this year if some good things work out.
Nemo
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Likely get nowhere but trying.
Nemo
https://keepva2a.com/ (https://keepva2a.com/)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd2pD3_X0mM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd2pD3_X0mM)
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Initial attacks blunted but damage sustained, counter begins.
Nemo
https://www.roanoke.com/news/politics/police-clear-committee-room-after-uproar-following---vote/article_849a4fa6-54ad-5737-9034-84254de43a14.html (https://www.roanoke.com/news/politics/police-clear-committee-room-after-uproar-following---vote/article_849a4fa6-54ad-5737-9034-84254de43a14.html)
Police clear committee room after uproar following 12-9 vote for bill targeting assault weapons, high capacity magazines
By Amy Friedenberger amy.friedenberger@roanoke.com 981-3356 7 hrs ago
RICHMOND — House Democrats used their majority Friday to advance the most controversial gun control bill this General Assembly session, a ban on the sale of assault weapons and the possession of "high capacity" magazines of 12 or more rounds.
The House Public Safety Committee backed House Bill 961 on a 12-9 party-line vote, sending it to the floor of the House of Delegates. The bill would, among other things, require Virginians to turn over or destroy ammunition magazines considered to be “high capacity” and allow the possession of centerfire assault rifles but prohibit the transfer of sale of them in most situations.
About 200 people, most of them gun rights advocates, packed into the meeting room wearing National Rifle Association T-shirts and Gun Saves Lives stickers or Moms Demand Action T-shirts.
“This is the bill,” NRA lobbyist D.J. Spiker told the committee. “This is the one that’s fired up Virginians.”
The bill from Del. Mark Levine, D-Alexandria, underwent a significant revision from the original proposal that called for expanding the definition of assault weapons and making it a Class 6 felony to import, sell, buy, transfer or build them within the state. Levine said he took input from various stakeholders to offer a less restrictive bill.
The legislation inflamed gun rights advocates across the commonwealth and invigorated a movement for localities to identify themselves as Second Amendment sanctuaries.
Throughout the discussion of the bill, gun owners cheered at the remarks from Republicans and jeered at comments from gun control advocates. When the bill passed, gun owners stood up and shouted “We will not comply!” Del. Patrick Hope, D-Arlington, the committee chairman, directed law enforcement to clear the room.
“Whose side are you on?” people shouted to law enforcement officers when they told people to leave.
Del. Nick Rush, R-Montgomery, stood up and tried to speak over the shouting, telling the crowd the officers were just doing their job.
Under the revised legislation, people will be able to keep their assault weapons, but it will be illegal to import, sell, transfer or manufacture any assault firearms. There are some exceptions for transfers, such as if it happens at a shooting range for the purpose of target shooting, or as gifts to immediate family members or via wills or estates. The bill also would ban the import, sale or transfer of silencers.
The current version of the bill aligns more with the growing research that suggests it is the magazine capacity that may increase the death toll because shooters can fire more rounds before they are stopped. Data shows that when magazines are regulated, they’re used less often in crimes. Virginia has no limits on magazine capacity.
In an impassioned speech to the committee, Public Safety Secretary Brian Moran invoked the April 2007 Virginia Tech massacre. The shooter killed 32 people and wounded 17 with handguns equipped with high-capacity magazines, enabling him to commit one of the worst mass shootings in U.S. history before killing himself.
Moran spoke about Professor Liviu Librescu blocking a classroom door so his students could jump out of the second-story window. The shooter forced his way in and shot and killed Librescu with a semi-automatic pistol.
"When seconds matter, they could escape through that window. Reloading that magazine mattered,” Moran said. “That's why we're here. Just like those students, just like the theatergoers in Aurora, just like the schoolchildren in Newtown, the concertgoers, the nightclub goers in Orlando Florida. Time and again, this is too often.”
In Newtown, Connecticut, the shooter fired 154 rounds from an assault rifle and with multiple high-capacity magazines in less than five minutes, killing 20 first-graders and six teachers.
Lori Haas said she’s met a mother whose child died at Sandy Hook Elementary and carries the weight of her daughter surviving being shot at Virginia Tech.
“You don’t want to know what I know,” Haas said. “Don’t let it happen again.”
Del. Tony Wilt, R-Rockingham, said the mass shooting at Virginia Tech was a tragedy, but he said it happened at a gun-free zone.
“These are basically killing grounds,” he said to applause from the crowd. “We cannot legislate morality. We cannot stop evil.”
The United States had a federal ban on new production — but not ownership — of assault-style rifles between 1994 to 2004. Research is limited and inconclusive about how effective the ban was on reducing gun violence.
Currently, seven states and the District of Columbia have their own assault weapons bans, some of which go further than the federal law did.
Former Republican Congressman Tom Garrett, who also formerly served in the General Assembly, addressed the committee, warning members that the votes may exist on the U.S. Supreme Court to strike down gun restrictions.
"Instead of banning weapons you're so intimidated of because you fail to understand them, you’ll ensure the ability of Americans to possess them from heretofore,” Garrett said.
The House has sent all eight gun control bills that have the backing of the Northam administration to the floor. Not all of the bills the House and Senate have passed are exactly the same, so it’s unknown which ones could ultimately get to the governor’s desk. Senate Majority Leader Dick Saslaw, D-Fairfax, introduced an assault weapons ban bill, but then scrapped it from being considered.
The committee also advanced a few other gun control bills to the floor, including removing the option to take an online course to obtain a concealed carry permit.
“These bills will save lives, and that’s why we feel strongly about it,” Hope said.
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Update. First committee hearings on bills from House of Delegates set for hearing Friday, 24 Feb 20.
Nemo
https://mailchi.mp/b6a48c9aa64d/va-alertcommittee-to-hear-gun-bills-friday-and-protest-at-dem-gala-on-sat
1. Gun bills to be heard Friday, Feb. 24, at 8 am in House Pubic Safety committee
2. Action item: Protest at Democrat Gala in Richmond on Saturday night - Bloomberg and Northam at event
1. Gun bills to be heard Friday, Feb. 14, at 8 am in House Pubic Safety committee
The House Public Safety committee is going to hear the following bills on Friday morning, February 14, at 8 am in the House Committee Room:
SB 69, One Handgun a Month (has exception for CHP holders)
SB 263, eliminates online training to get a CHP (still recognizes NRA certified instructors)
SB 593, requires Licensed Family Day Homes to have all firearms to be unloaded and locked up separate from ammunition, no exception for someone with a CHP
To get to this meeting room, take an immediate left after passing through the metal detectors and go past the guard desk, through the glass doors and the room will be on your right.
2. Action item: Protest at Democrat Gala in Richmond on Saturday night - Bloomberg and Northam at event
On Saturday, February 15, from 6 pm to 11 pm, there is going to be a Democrat Gala in Richmond, featuring Michael Bloomberg as a speaker. Governor Northam and other Democrats who have been dodging gun owners will also be there. This is a great opportunity for our polite, but firm voices to be heard: Virginia doesn't want any more gun control! Leave law-abiding gun owners ALONE!
We know that many of you want to make sure that the Democrats get the message, so we are getting the word out about this opportunity at the gala event.
Time: 4:30 pm to 7 pm (we want to be there early, but don't need to stay for the full event.)
Location:
Main Street Station
1500 East Main Street
Richmond, VA 23219
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Good luck
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If you live, have a friend, relative or countryman who does, read carefully, share the following, click links and send the email.
Make sure you follow up wiht the forwards so they do.
From email I received from GOA.
Nemo
https://gunowners.org/va02152020/
Merely Selling One Magazine Could Send You to Jail for Five Years!
Dear Nemo,
Democrats aren’t relenting in their confiscation agenda.
With the House having passed the ban on household firearms this week, the Senate is now prepared to start pushing it real hard.
HB 961 is on the Senate Judiciary Committee’s agenda for Monday. And there is a real possibility that we could defeat this ban in the Senate.
Pro-gun Del. Nick Freitas questioned Democrat proponents of HB 961 in the House, but they failed to provide adequate explanations for the legislation.
Here's why. The Senate only has a 21-19 Democrat majority and there are four Democrat Senators who might vote against this bill.
They are Senators Creigh Deeds (Bath County), John Edwards (Roanoke), Lynwood Lewis (Accomack County), and Chap Petersen (Fairfax).
These Democrats especially need to hear from you. But that’s not all.
We need “all hands on deck” right now. If every person reading this email were to contact his Senator, we would inundate the Capitol.
So please email your state senator today, because this bill is a horrendous attack on our right to keep and bear arms!
Here are the highlights of what HB 961 would do:
The House-passed HB 961 made the mere possession of magazines that can hold more than 12 rounds of ammunition a Class 1 misdemeanor with 12 months in prison and a $2,500 fine.
The sale of 12+ round magazines would become a class 6 felony, punishable by up to five years in prison. Usurping God-given rights doesn’t seem to bother the new Democrat regime in Richmond!
HB 961 also bans the import, sale or transfer of a semi-automatic rifle or pistol with a pistol grip, a second-hand grip, a silencer or a folding stock, or other features. Again, a violation brings five years in jail for a class 6 felony.
Do these legislators have any idea how a five-year jail stint would affect a family? We cannot even imagine the impact to unsuspecting, gun owners and their families being punished to this degree, for never harming anyone!
Although the “new” version of HB 961 allows present owners of the banned “assault weapons” to keep their guns -- how generous of them! -- all future sales will be banned after July 1, 2020. And repairing a banned gun after this date will not be possible because a “part” of a so-called assault rifle is considered an actual assault rifle!
Here is the actual language of the bill which prevents the purchase of repair parts in the future:
Assault firearm’ includes any part or combination of parts designed or intended to convert, modify or otherwise alter a firearm into an assault firearm, or any combination of parts that may be readily assembled into an assault firearm.
Repair of a legally-owned “assault weapon,” would bring felony charges.
Defeating HB 961 in the Senate is a REAL possibility!
Since the House vote was so close and a few of Governor Northam’s gun control bills did not pass the Senate, we think there is a good chance to defeat HB 961 in the Senate. But we need your help!
Please send a pre-written letter opposing HB 961 to your Senator right away!
I assure you: your efforts are definitely having an effect! We still have much more to do to achieve our goal of stopping the passage of this bill.
Should it pass despite our best efforts, we will do everything we can to repeal it. But for now, our goal is clear, WE MUST DEFEAT HB 961, the most radical assault on our gun rights whichever threatened Virginians!
With your continued support of GOA and your regular contacts with our General Assembly members, I am hopeful we can stop HB 961. We must engage! We can’t give up!
Again, thank you for your hard work! I will keep you updated regarding further actions in the senate on HB 961.
Now, please take a few minutes to urge your Senator to vote NO on HB 961.
Thanks again!
In liberty,
Erich Pratt
Senior Vice President
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Congratulations Nemo, it's good to see the AWB bill did not pass. You folks get another year to prepare.
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Yes. Still got work to do.
Nemo
https://mailchi.mp/1a8fc0b90671/va-alert-victory-hb-961-is-dead-for-the-year-10-to-5-vote
Congratulations, VCDL! Your phone calls, emails, attendance at the Second Amendment Sanctuary hearings, attendance at General Assembly committee hearings, and attendance at Lobby Day has paid off - HB 961, the "assault weapon"/higher-capacity magazine/suppressor/bump stock ban, is DEAD for the year!
Thousands of gun owners packed the General Assembly building this morning and flooded the hearing room. After hearing public input and debating between committee members, the bill was passed by for the year!
The following Senators voted in a bipartisan manner to protect your rights and kill HB 961 (Republicans in red and Democrats in blue): Chafin, Deeds, Edwards, McDougle, Norment, Obenshain, Petersen, Stanley, Stuart, and Surrovell.
The following Senators voted in a partisan manner against your rights: Boysko, Lucas, McClellan, Morrissey, and Saslaw.
Next year, the battle will continue, but if we fight like we did this year, vote in every election, and support pro-gun candidates, we will continue to be a force to be reckoned with.
We dare not get complacent again.
We are far from being out of the woods. Red Flag laws, Universal Background Checks, and destruction of the firearms preemption law are still very much alive this year. Watch for upcoming action items.
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Virginia has definitely sparked the 2nd Amendment sanctuary movement. Cumberland County, Tennessee tonight voted to become a 2nd Amendment sanctuary county. Interestingly, they also voted to not consent to the resettlement of foreign refugees. The county is hard core conservative, with many retired military and law enforcement officers.