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A well regulated blog, being necessary to......
« on: January 27, 2012, 01:50:23 AM »
I'm sick of all the anti gun freaks that bitch about ARs , AKs and 30 round mags. When you say we have a 2nd Amendment Right, They say "Why do you need automatic rifles?, Why do you need so many bullets? The framers of our Constitution weren't talking about these things when they came up with the 2nd Amendment. When they wrote the constitution, they used muzzle loaders."  Yeah, well when they gave us the 1st Amendment, they didn't envision liberal idiots like them spewing their left wing garbage all over the T.V. or internet either. So when they go back to whining to a crowd from a stump or having to write it down on parchment, I'll go back to muzzle loaders......Wait, no I won't   
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Re: A well regulated blog, being necessary to......
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2012, 01:59:48 AM »
when i hear the muzzle loader argument all i hear is them saying they want me to use a 50  8)

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Re: A well regulated blog, being necessary to......
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2012, 02:04:16 AM »
Yeah, the 50s now will reach out a little further than the 50s from back then.

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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2012, 02:11:54 AM »
Yeah, the 50s now will reach out a little further than the 50s from back then.


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Re: A well regulated blog, being necessary to......
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2012, 10:57:07 AM »
Let?s keep in mind that at the time of the writing of the Bill of Rights the most modern military rifle (s) were:

The Brown Bess; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_Bess and
The Charleville; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charleville_musket .

They were world class because you could load and fire one of these rifles, three times within 60 seconds due to their smooth bore- No rifling. They also shot a .69 caliber or larger ball. 

The rifled rifle was not considered a modern military weapon as they took around 120 seconds to load and fire. And these rifles shot a .45 - .58 caliber ball- Considered at the time as a small round.

Let?s now jump ahead to 1935. It was perfectly legal to own a ?machine gun.? Then in 1935 the NFA (National Firearms Act) was passed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act . This act was not passed because of the terrible machine gun but due to the repeal of prohibition. The Treasury Department had Treasury Agents that no longer had a job; consequently, they pushed for this law so they would not have to relinquish power, e.g. lay off agents. Also, the $200- fee collected would (In theory) add revenue to the Governments coffers.

Now let?s jump to 1968 when the 1935 NFA was amended. Up until this amendment if you were willing to pay the money for the stamp and the money for the weapon you could own anything that was used in the US military.

Then of course came the last amendment to the 1935 NFA in 1985; which prohibits US citizens from owning machine guns and other devises produced post the passing of this amendment. That is why due to government intervention a pre-ban M16 that would have cost a couple hundred dollars in 1984 will cost upwards of a $10,000- today. Or a favorite of mine a BAR- Pre 1985 would have cost $700- now will cost around $30,000-.

By the way, your local LE department is exempt to this admended law. They can buy post 1985 machine guns and other devises. The MSRP for a Colt M16 is about $1,500-. A friend of mine who is a LEO told me that their department just bought fully auto M16's from Smith & Wesson and the prices was just under $1,000- each. 

In summary; let?s remember that up until 1968 the "rule" was; if a weapon was being used in the US Military and a US Citizen was willing to pay the price of the excise tax ($200-) and the cost of the weapon they could own it.   :))

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Re: A well regulated blog, being necessary to......
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2012, 08:47:44 AM »
The 2nd amendment IS NOT about hunting... I hate to break it to these retards...

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Re: A well regulated blog, being necessary to......
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2012, 10:24:53 AM »
when i hear the muzzle loader argument all i hear is them saying they want me to use a 50  8)


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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2012, 11:51:19 AM »
Any time a liberal tells me that the secound was referring to muzzle loaders, I ask them if they think its ok for me to have pipe bombs to play with. They always say NO. But at the writing of the constitution you could buy black powder hand grenades, as  well as cannons, and muskets. Although get cought with a blackpowder pipe bomb, your ass is in jail for awhile.

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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2012, 03:42:51 PM »
the muzzle loader argument is ridiculous on every possible level (i realize I'm preaching to the choir here)

2A says nothing about whatever weapons they were using at the time. the whole point is that the people retain adequate means to overthrow the government as a last resort. now, I don't expect liberals to AGREE with that, but at the very least, they can't argue the context of it. the language is actually stunningly clear. the fact that there are different "interpretations" of it is just beyond me. there's nothing to interpret.

it's like if I say: "the sky is blue"... does that leave much room for opposing interpretations?

THE. FUCKING. SKY. IS. BLUE.
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Re: A well regulated blog, being necessary to......
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2012, 03:46:33 PM »
the muzzle loader argument is ridiculous on every possible level (i realize I'm preaching to the choir here)

2A says nothing about whatever weapons they were using at the time. the whole point is that the people retain adequate means to overthrow the government as a last resort. now, I don't expect liberals to AGREE with that, but at the very least, they can't argue the context of it. the language is actually stunningly clear. the fact that there are different "interpretations" of it is just beyond me. there's nothing to interpret.

it's like if I say: "the sky is blue"... does that leave much room for opposing interpretations?

THE. FUCKING. SKY. IS. BLUE.

well with the cloud cover its really more grey........
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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2012, 03:57:44 PM »
who's clous? lol
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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2012, 04:05:40 PM »
huh?
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