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Offline JohnyMac

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Book Patriot Dawn
« on: June 12, 2013, 01:16:42 PM »

Ordered Max Velocity's newest book Patriot Dawn Friday and just finished it this afternoon. From the time I started reading the book till this afternoon it was hard to put down.

The book's storyline is relative to today's political scene which is great; however the biggest thing I took away from the story were some down to earth skills we might need in the future. Velocity has some extensive military experience however I never felt lost as he wove tactics and described battle scenes throughout the novel.

This one is a must for you prepper minded folks.

He also has two other books: Contact and Rapid Fire, which I am planning on adding to my collection.
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Re: Book Patriot Dawn
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2013, 02:20:58 PM »
I finished Contact! a month ago and I really liked it, I'm planning on writing a review.
Patriot Dawn is in my extremely long "to read" list :D

Remember that Contact! and "Rapid Fire" are the same book, but targeted to different audiences, Contact! is for preppers and Rapid Fire is for contractors.

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Re: Book Patriot Dawn
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2013, 05:57:01 PM »
I just finished reading Patriot Dawn, and I was impressed. I will have to read it again in the future after glancing at some manuals.

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Re: Book Patriot Dawn
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2013, 12:29:02 AM »
LOL, I'm glad someone liked it... it was one of the worst books I ever read.
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Re: Book Patriot Dawn
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2013, 11:13:07 AM »
Currahee,  :lmfao:

Awesome! We all value your input. Was it grammar? Sentence/paragraph/chapter structure? Tactics?

Lay it on... :)
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Re: Book Patriot Dawn
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2013, 01:04:15 PM »
Yeah, I want to know too. Hadn't read it before, and was going to start looking around the used book places for a copy.

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Re: Book Patriot Dawn
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2013, 10:09:57 PM »
Currahee,  :lmfao:

Awesome! We all value your input. Was it grammar? Sentence/paragraph/chapter structure? Tactics?

Lay it on... :)

The grammar was bad enough that it was distracting, but I've read enough teenager's writings to get along with that.  The character development was horrid and the story was absurd.  It came off as a vehicle to teach tactics, but there was little actual valuable stuff in there.  It was as if someone took FM 7-8, with some Soldier's Manual of Common Tasks and inserted some unbelievable characters while removing the useful diagrams.

The editing and sequencing is absurd.  One second he's talking about how they dug field latrines and covered it with a small amount of dirt while under the watchful eyes of a battle buddy and the next they're running from an Apache attack.  He berates the leader for being to ambitious and then (successfully) commits his company to the defense of a fixed position against and integrated armor battalion with air support. 

It's not even useful for the tactics.  "The teams moved to the objectives through a series of dead drops." No explanation of how that works or anything.

If you want to learn tactics get yourself the right books.  I would recommend starting with Larsen's Light Infantry Tactics: For Small Teams, practicing and moving from there.  If you want to read a story about an insurrection against a totalitarian government I would recommend The Hunger Games. trilogy.
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Re: Book Patriot Dawn
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2013, 10:51:50 PM »
Thanks Currahee for your critique!  :thumbsUp:

One of the reasons I am grateful that you are part of this forum is your honest input on things. With the valuable info you shared I still liked reading it!

One of the major things I got out of the book this book was the infrared visioning by the drones and helicopters. Back in SP days I was trying to gather info on how to defeat this advantage.

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Re: Book Patriot Dawn
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2013, 10:56:09 PM »
Max Velocity is writing a lot about FLIR imaging, and he is planning on selling a thermal tarp/poncho, check his blog for more info about that.
I think you are pretty much fucked up with FLIR unless your AO has a lot of vegetation.

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Re: Book Patriot Dawn
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2013, 08:17:22 AM »
Cool APX thanks!
 Here you go...

"Update 6/10: Its important to me that I make it clear to you that it is very important to me that this will WORK for the customer and that you deploy and use it correctly for maximum survivability. Testing has been ongoing. There are two aspects to bear in mind with the use of the M.V.T. SHIELD:

1) Thermal shielding. As of now, testing has shown that the M.V.T. SHIELD will block 100% of heat transmission through the tarp, so long as you keep the air gap as designed between your body and the tarp itself. Note that use of a single emergency blanket, of the type that come folded up, was shown in early testing to cut down the image but it will not stop heat transmission. Heat appears as a non-specific bloom across the fabric of the tarp, as viewed by a thermal imager. With the M.V. T. SHIELD deployed above you, there will be no thermal signature due to the effectiveness of the thermal blocking layer.

2) Deployment. A Thermal blocking tarp is not a silver bullet. We are aiming to aid camouflage and concealment in the visual spectrum by use of camouflage material. You also need to give thought to visual camouflage in the thermal spectrum. Man-made objects, such as a tarp, have specific shapes. If you lay  a tarp out, it will have a rectangular shape through TI that is visually distinguishable from surrounding objects. Objects have different qualities under TI and that can allow them to be made out with the contrast under TI viewing. In the same way that you can see trees and all that through TI. That is why I refer to utilizing terrain and canopy  masking to camouflage the man-made shape of the thermal tarp. You may block heat but still be seen by shape.

Therefore you can achieve such a thermal camouflage effect in the same way that you achieve a visual effect. We have decided to leave off the ghillie style top covering to allow users to customize as they wish to their situation. For the absolute best camouflage from visual shape, you should use a mix of terrain/canopy screening and also you can lay camouflage over the top of the tarp. This can be leaves/branches and also something you make to break up the shape of the tarp, such as camouflage netting or a gillie style layer. This is up to you to customize your camouflage to your environment. If you place something above or over the tarp, you will break up its shape, just as you do in the visual spectrum. In the TI spectrum it is all about shape contrast, not at all about the camouflage color of the tarp, which cannot be seen under TI.
Comparison to the USMC shelter tarp:

The M.V.T. SHIELD is 6' x 8', which is 72" x 96".

The USMC tarp is approximately 80" x 90".

The M.V.T. SHIELD is also camo on both sides, unlike the USMC tarp which is camo one side, brown on the underside, with no thermal shielding capability.

The M.V.T. SHIELD has all the standard properties of the USMC tarp:

"The USMC Military Field Tarp, or Military Wet Weather Tarp, is a camouflaged protective tarp designed to provide the USMC with a lightweight, waterproof covering which will also function as a ground cloth, survival shelter, sunshade, gear cover, emergency litter or overnight shelter against the weather"
In addition the M.V.T. SHIELD will also operate as a protective shelter from FLIR surveillance; its most important capability although likely to be held in reserve until necessary. In the meantime, you can utilize the M.V.T. SHIELD as per a shelter tarp."





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