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Title: TACTICS
Post by: pkveazey on June 05, 2021, 06:10:47 PM
This is something to think about when confronted by multiple threats. Assume that the threat is at least wearing a flack vest. Assume also, that you cannot handle the number of threats coming at you. Military analysts have said for years that shooting one combatant just removes one combatant from the field. However, wounding one combatant removes two or possibly three combatants from the field. Aiming for the legs between the knee and hip will hit a non protected area and someone else will need to help the wounded off the battlefield. Doing that multiple times will soon deplete the opposing force and it won't be long before the small force that is left will retreat.
Title: Re: TACTICS
Post by: grizz on June 05, 2021, 06:18:20 PM
I agree 100% from a military perspective but not too sure about untrained people. Being untrained means they are predictably unpredictable
Title: Re: TACTICS
Post by: Jackalope on June 05, 2021, 06:43:38 PM
It's nice to have plans and dreams.  As Mike Tyson aptly pointed out,  "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth."  There's also the old military saying "No plan survives first contact with the enemy."   As Grizz infers, people are unpredictable.  So, hopefully, you have a Plan B, Plan C, Plan D, etc.  Think outside the box, maybe the aggressors are using armored vehicles.  The concept of wounding an enemy to tie up forces is an old one, I'm guessing it was part of the justification for going to 5.56 NATO.
Title: Re: TACTICS
Post by: Felix on June 05, 2021, 10:30:33 PM
When the chips are down and the instant hangs on all...   Don't be surprised.   Train.  Actual drill plus visualization.   Practice, practice, practice.   In your mind.  With your body.
Muscle memory is not a joke or some arcane expression.   It is real.
And is the bedrock you will default to when committee decisions are unavailable and the shot clock's sweep hand means a second is an eternity.
Title: Re: TACTICS
Post by: Felix on June 05, 2021, 10:41:18 PM
PS:   two center mass, one to the head.

Know your proficiency at what range.  And do it.

Or move.   Run... find cover and reset.
Title: Re: TACTICS
Post by: Nemo on June 06, 2021, 09:47:21 AM
Grenades.  They work well when used judiciously.

Nemo
Title: Re: TACTICS
Post by: Jackalope on June 06, 2021, 10:52:48 AM
Grenades.  They work well when used judiciously.

Nemo

And Molotov Cocktails, because grenades are difficult to find in my AO.  :dancingGrenade:
Title: Re: TACTICS
Post by: pkveazey on June 06, 2021, 04:03:45 PM
I agree 100% from a military perspective but not too sure about untrained people. Being untrained means they are predictably unpredictable

Grizz, you are right on the money. I've talked to a fellow who was part of SEAL TEAM 6 and he said that when the fighting starts, it is very difficult to concentrate on your training because you are shaking like a dog shitting carpet tacks. He said that he had to stop thinking about saving his own ass and concentrate on saving his buddies asses. When bullets start to fly, all of a sudden it gets real right then and there. :gunner:
Title: Re: TACTICS
Post by: Nemo on June 06, 2021, 08:08:45 PM
Grenades.  They work well when used judiciously.

Nemo

And Molotov Cocktails, because grenades are difficult to find in my AO.  :dancingGrenade:


Head my way, I'll teach you.

Nemo
Title: Re: TACTICS
Post by: Felix on June 06, 2021, 09:58:44 PM
Come to think of it... of all the crazy little pyrotechnics we made in misspent youth, I never made/deployed an actual "Molotov Cocktail".
Yeah, sure fill a glass bottle with gasoline, stuff some cloth down the neck, light the cloth and hurl it.
 But aren't there some finer points?  Things one can't/shouldn't take for granted?
Please, if someone might:  a tutorial, some details?   Even the simplest thing can profit when "optimized"
TIA
Title: Re: TACTICS
Post by: pkveazey on June 07, 2021, 12:29:45 AM
Come to think of it... of all the crazy little pyrotechnics we made in misspent youth, I never made/deployed an actual "Molotov Cocktail".
Yeah, sure fill a glass bottle with gasoline, stuff some cloth down the neck, light the cloth and hurl it.
 But aren't there some finer points?  Things one can't/shouldn't take for granted?
Please, if someone might:  a tutorial, some details?   Even the simplest thing can profit when "optimized"
TIA

Gasoline with liquid disk detergent. The liquid soap makes the liquid stick to the surface of whatever it lands on.
Title: Re: TACTICS
Post by: Nemo on June 07, 2021, 08:00:36 AM
Gallon of gas, 4 gallons diesel and styrofoam until its consistency of grape jelly.   But I was primarily talking about the other things.

Nemo

Title: Re: TACTICS
Post by: JohnyMac on June 07, 2021, 08:29:37 AM
May I recommend that we keep pyrotechnic recipes to another blog.  ;) Thanks.  :pirateThumbUp: 
Title: Re: TACTICS
Post by: special-k on June 07, 2021, 11:04:41 AM
The ideas written here are dangerously incomplete.  Do not attempt to construct a device from what you have read here.

 :forReaver:
Title: Re: TACTICS
Post by: pkveazey on June 07, 2021, 06:41:23 PM
Special K is right. Just because you know how to do something doesn't mean you should do it. Its real easy to set yourself on fire while fooling around with that stuff. :facepalm:
Title: Re: TACTICS
Post by: Nemo on June 07, 2021, 07:52:42 PM
I agree.  Playing with fire is bad.  It is hot and burns.  Fire is only useful when you are not playing.

Nemo