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Title: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: sledge on November 23, 2011, 04:54:37 PM
This is something that has been in the back of my mind for awhile now as I been watching world events unfold over the past 4 years.  I remember reading a couple of years ago where Russia and China had held some private meetings where they had signed some mutual agreements.  Since that time they have seemed to move in unison in adversarial response to any moves the United States has made.

They are not our friends and very well may be our enemies.  Here's an article that got me thinking about this again.

IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?

http://www.newswithviews.com/McGuire/paul105.htm (http://www.newswithviews.com/McGuire/paul105.htm)
Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: Buck Naked on November 23, 2011, 05:40:33 PM
Ehhhhh....... This is the same old stuff that's been going around for decades and decades.  Every few years or so Russia barks at the us or NATO. Not that they are not a threat but I would say no more then they have always been and probably less of one then say 25 30 years ago.
Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: sledge on November 23, 2011, 06:17:20 PM
Ehhhhh....... This is the same old stuff that's been going around for decades and decades.  Every few years or so Russia barks at the us or NATO. Not that they are not a threat but I would say no more then they have always been and probably less of one then say 25 30 years ago.

To be sure they were certainly a threat 30 years ago.  One difference is that 30 years ago Russia and China were eye to eye with each other as much as they were with us.  The Russians were more terrified of the thought of a billion Chinese coming screaming across their border than they were of us.

That's not the case today.  Russia and China are allies against the interests of the United States and have been working in conjunction with each other for at least the past two years.  China has been actively and "vocally" indoctrinating their military that war with the U.S. is inevitable.  Make no mistake, they have been playing us as patsies. 

Both Russia's and China's military leaders have made statements indicating they think they could win a war with the United States.  It would be a mistake to casually overlook their motives and desires in bringing down the U.S.   
Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: mountainredneck2051 on November 23, 2011, 06:24:04 PM
well, according to china my enlisting will be "inevitable"

which is fine by me i got a bone to pick with them over that shit they send us  [img]http://www.smileydesign.n
Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: Outonowhere on November 23, 2011, 08:02:32 PM
If Russia thought Afghanistan was bad they've never seen what a few motivated (and sometimes intoxicated) rednecks can accomplish.  Attack us, sure.  Invade our lands, yea.  But when they turn off American idol and we have a common enemy that is not internal to focus on... Game over bitches... Lol

And that's why I'm working on de-pussifying as many people around me to rally to the cause, just in case lol
Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: mountainredneck2051 on November 23, 2011, 08:07:50 PM
If Russia thought Afghanistan was bad they've never seen what a few motivated (and sometimes intoxicated) rednecks can accomplish.  Attack us, sure.  Invade our lands, yea.  But when they turn off American idol and we have a common enemy that is not internal to focus on... Game over bitches... Lol

And that's why I'm working on de-pussifying as many people around me to rally to the cause, just in case lol


i have a 55 year old woman with stage 3 cancer training like a fuckin marine
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Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: Kobalt on November 23, 2011, 08:16:24 PM
I agree with buck its the same old same old. Its more of a pride thing. You wouldn't want to look weak would you?
Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: thatGuy on November 23, 2011, 08:50:30 PM
I like how you guys are so quick to write this off. Russia and there endless supply of people coupled with the Chinese and their endless supply of people coupled with their ability to produce....

Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: mountainredneck2051 on November 23, 2011, 08:52:41 PM
china's a fucking war horse

endless supply of people and they got more production capabilities than anyone else in the world

honestly they would have the upper hand in a traditional war


shits a serious threat
Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: Kobalt on November 23, 2011, 09:35:07 PM
Did you ever wonder how they would move all of those people over here without being destroyed by the navy? Its a long way from china to the US. It would be like shooting fish in a barrel. But they could go through Russia, Alaska and Canada without getting destroyed.  Which would be a miracle for them.
Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: Ghost on November 23, 2011, 09:44:11 PM
Did you ever wonder how they would move all of those people over here without being destroyed by the navy? Its a long way from china to the US. It would be like shooting fish in a barrel. But they could go through Russia, Alaska and Canada without getting destroyed.  Which would be a miracle for them.

What if the Navy is out of the picture?

Sure, the odds of that happening are slim, but that isn't none. Should they try to fuck with us (and by us, I mean either Canada, the United States, or both), I will make it my personal vendetta to make those bastards suffer like nothing they could ever imagine.
Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: mountainredneck2051 on November 23, 2011, 09:56:55 PM
Did you ever wonder how they would move all of those people over here without being destroyed by the navy? Its a long way from china to the US. It would be like shooting fish in a barrel. But they could go through Russia, Alaska and Canada without getting destroyed.  Which would be a miracle for them.

they can emp our ships

i think i read somewhere that they done it to a us boat not too long ago
Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: thatGuy on November 23, 2011, 10:00:19 PM
It is 53 miles across the Bering, you can cover that distance in a row boat.

You could row a million men across the Bering without some much as a how you do from our Navy. Unless you got incredibly lucky and someone spotted this 'flotilla.'

Once a group of that size made landfall there wouldn't be a fucking thing that anyone could do about it. Next thing you know they seize the port at Anchorage and are using it as a jump off for Seattle.

You guys who don't think there is any way need to turn your heads to the left, tuck your chins and cough. You head will *pop* right out of your ass.
Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: sledge on November 23, 2011, 10:20:40 PM
If Russia thought Afghanistan was bad they've never seen what a few motivated (and sometimes intoxicated) rednecks can accomplish.  Attack us, sure.  Invade our lands, yea.  But when they turn off American idol and we have a common enemy that is not internal to focus on... Game over bitches... Lol

And that's why I'm working on de-pussifying as many people around me to rally to the cause, just in case lol

Yep, I agree that we have plenty of good people here and a battle hardened military.  Still let me give you a couple of things to think about. 

Yes, our people would put aside their differences to protect our country.  The thing is, what makes you think there would be many people left?  Russia, and in particular China don't need people.  People is one thing they have an over abundance of.  According to Chi Haotian, China's former Minister of Defense, what China needs most in this, the Chinese century, is space to expand.  And he specifically mentioned the North American Continent with it's clean land, air and water.

Now consider that the U.S. has had and still does have one of the most porous borders of any civilized country.  Anything or anyone could come across it without much concern of being caught.  Especially if they have been trained.  Now consider that the "failed state of Mexico" is already buddying up to China.  Just as Venezuela is buddying up to Russia.

But then, why sneak acoss our border when we invite them in and give them visas.  Two years ago it was reported that there were 30,000 Chinese front companies in the U.S. that the FBI was aware of.  That was before all of this free trade zone BS.  There are hundreds of thousands of ChiCom citizens legally in the U.S. with the full consent of our Government.  Do you think the Chinese  have any desire to spy on us?  There are also hundreds of thousands of Russians who have come the the U.S. since the collapse of the Soviet Union.  You know, they never have been able to account for those missing suitcase nukes.  Wonder where they went. 

I'll guarantee you that a large number of Chinese and Russian agents are living among these populations.  Russia has some of the deadliest bio weapons on the planet.  And the Chinese are no slouches in this area either.  Just out of curiosity, I wonder how many containers arrived this week from China that weren't searched?   Consider the possibilities.  But the DHS is more concerned about American citizens being potential terrorists and exploding Thanksgiving turkeys than what dangers and destruction these agents could pose.

Also note that China has been spending large sums of our money on EMP research.  They already have systems developed.  Also consider that they have been sending a lot of satellites into space.  Anyone want to put money saying there isn't an EMP device on at least one of them?  My money would be on the ones 400 miles up.

Now consider that China and Russia have both been building bunkers like crazy.  Thousands of bunkers.  Why?  China has also built dozens of empty cities inland. Why?  Are they replacement cities?

I could go on.  All it takes is looking at what is going on and applying strategy. 

Blow it off if you want.  Old news.  Hey, has anyone heard of the Russian warships protecting Syria's airspace in case NATO and the U.S.  get froggy like they did in Libya.  Or that times up, Israel and Iran are at the boiling point.  Or that China has signed a mutual protection pact with Pakistan.  Or that China is pissed that the U.S. is interfering with their claim of sovereignty over the south China Sea.

Yep, blow it off.  No worries.   

 

       

   
Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: thatGuy on November 23, 2011, 10:33:11 PM
No worries.


Thank God.. I was starting to think that this was something I should pay attention to.  [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: PatriotSeeker on November 23, 2011, 11:05:39 PM
What are they waiting for? Honestly, the time to hit would be now. But I dont see any Russian/Chinese Para dropping in over my house. TO hell with them. Let them come. Ill be waiting.
Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: sledge on November 23, 2011, 11:21:18 PM
What are they waiting for? Honestly, the time to hit would be now. But I dont see any Russian/Chinese Para dropping in over my house. TO hell with them. Let them come. Ill be waiting.

I don't know patriot.  I have no doubts they are working a coordinated plan. 

Hey, did you see the announcement this week that we've learned how to weaponize H1N1?  Wonder if that idea has ever occurred to the Chinese?  Seeing as they live in the part of the world where 99.9% of flu's originate.  I think the .01 was the swine flu which came out of Mexico.  Of course it turned out to be a crossbreed of a swine flu and an aviary flu.  Something that can't occur in nature.

Keep your mask close by.
Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: mountainredneck2051 on November 23, 2011, 11:24:57 PM
so guys we all speak of masks, but i for one have no idea what to get
can anyone shine some light on the situation?

Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: sledge on November 24, 2011, 12:10:03 AM
so guys we all speak of masks, but i for one have no idea what to get
can anyone shine some light on the situation?


This site rate and sells gas masks, and rates some out on the market.  Someone else listed it in the past.

http://www.approvedgasmasks.com/defective-masks.htm (http://www.approvedgasmasks.com/defective-masks.htm)

Yep, they say my mask is obsolete.  Of course they don't sell that one either.  I've got thoughts about that and how to use a mask but I'll keep them to myself. 

 
Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: Alex1992 on November 24, 2011, 11:06:13 AM
I doubt Russia will do anything but China maybe, maybe not. And Russia and China meeting you kidding right Russia and China have HATED each other ever since its was just barbarian tribes running the countries and even to this day they still hate one and another thats just my opionion except China and Russia hating each other.
Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: Ghost on November 24, 2011, 11:32:11 AM
I doubt Russia will do anything but China maybe, maybe not. And Russia and China meeting you kidding right Russia and China have HATED each other ever since its was just barbarian tribes running the countries and even to this day they still hate one and another thats just my opionion except China and Russia hating each other.

They've been getting pretty cozy over the last few years mate. I think that they realize 1 v 1 against America, they would fall, but the two of them against America...well, it'd be close.
Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: sledge on November 24, 2011, 11:36:32 AM
I doubt Russia will do anything but China maybe, maybe not. And Russia and China meeting you kidding right Russia and China have HATED each other ever since its was just barbarian tribes running the countries and even to this day they still hate one and another thats just my opionion except China and Russia hating each other.

You're probably right.  If either China or Russia ever started anything with us the other country would probably jump in to help us because they hate each other so.  Oh wait, they both hate us more.

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend." 

I have no doubts that they would turn on each other if the U.S. ever falls.  China in particular would turn on Russia.  They see themselves as the superior race.  But until such time, they both have a vested interest in the downfall of the U.S.  We stand in the way of both of their world plans.  To them, it's no question that the U.S. has to go. 

The "Chinese Century" can't be achieved otherwise.  And Russia, according to Putin's statements ,is looking to reform the Soviet Block under a new name and perhaps include Europe.  That can't happen unless the U.S. is gone or brought to it's knees.

But who knows, you could be right.
Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: sledge on November 26, 2011, 11:10:03 PM
Syria's territorial waters are well past warm, getting hot, and heading towards boiling.  The U.S. and Russia's Navies will be standing eye to eye for the first time since the end of the Cold War.

US carrier strike force enters Syrian waters. Russian carrier en route

http://www.debka.com/article/21521/ (http://www.debka.com/article/21521/)
Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: Ghost on November 26, 2011, 11:27:38 PM
If this is true, shit just got serious.


Heads up, gents.
Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: mountainredneck2051 on November 27, 2011, 12:53:08 AM
sometimes i wish i could hide under the damn covers and it would all go away  [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: sledge on November 27, 2011, 01:27:35 AM
sometimes i wish i could hide under the damn covers and it would all go away  [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at


Yep, blankets are nice, but bunkers are better.

The reason this face off makes me nervous is that Obama see's himself as the modern day black John Kennedy of Camelot.  I hope he doesn't envision himself staring the Russian horde down by calling Putin's bluff.  There are reasons why Putin is no one to screw around with unless you're the real deal and willing to light up the sky.  Obama's not and Putin will bitch slap him with a first strike.

Putin has reawakened the nationalistic Russian Bear and is worshiped by their masses.  He won't back down like Khrushchev did.
If Obama thinks this is a good way to show he is a military tough guy before the elections this is going to get hairy. 

There is no good outcome.  Even if the Russians decided to back off of Syria and allow NATO to do what it did in Libya.  Which I doubt they will because Syria and Iran are their allies.   They could use what NATO did in Libya and Syria as an excuse to to make a military move to retake some former Soviet Bloc countries.  Something that Putin has alluded to recently.  Thus putting us in another standoff situation.

Like I said,  "Yep, blankets are nice, but bunkers are better."     

 
Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: mountainredneck2051 on November 27, 2011, 01:49:26 AM
its like a fuckin game of risk
Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: Outonowhere on November 27, 2011, 09:44:10 AM
MW3 - Jeep Wrangler MW3 Commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LCx2gJNO1Y#ws)

You know shits bad when car companies start marketing their vehicles as "rated for urban combat" lol.

This has been coming for a long time and NOBODY is going to be ready for it.  Tighten up your belts, boot laces and circle of friends... its about to get shitty outside... REAL shitty...
Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: v0dka on November 27, 2011, 10:55:53 AM
This is the start of the second cold war.
Hopefully it doesn't go past that.
Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: Ghost on November 27, 2011, 11:31:35 AM
This is the start of the second cold war.
Hopefully it doesn't go past that.

The way things have been, I don't really think that the FIRST Cold War ever ended.
Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: Kobalt on November 27, 2011, 04:01:08 PM
I don't want a war with Russia, Its one of my favorite country's, Not sure why I just connect with it. But I am a American, And if my country goes to war I will pick up a rifle and start fighting. 
Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: Outonowhere on November 28, 2011, 07:20:50 AM
And if my country goes to war I will pick up a rifle and start fighting.


Hence why you should have a large group of "friends" in your AO lol

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Title: Re: IS RUSSIA PREPARING TO ATTACK UNITED STATES?
Post by: sledge on November 28, 2011, 05:20:17 PM
This ties in to the same theme.  This General says China would be willing to have WWIII to quell some of the unrest problems they are having with their population.  Kind of the same thing that has been running through Obama's mind.

China To Protect Iran Even With A Third World War?

Pulled from the article.
Major General Zhang Zhaozhong, a professor from the Chinese National Defense University, said China will not hesitate to protect Iran even with a third World War. Professor Zhaozhong said that not hesitating to fight a third world war would be entirely for domestic political needs.

http://thenewworldreporter.com/2011/11/28/china-to-protect-iran-even-with-a-third-world-war/ (http://thenewworldreporter.com/2011/11/28/china-to-protect-iran-even-with-a-third-world-war/)