And there is NEVER anything wrong with quoting the founding fathers. People here don't like to quote them because they don't like the attatched stigma of being 'right winged'.
No, young brother, the majority of the folks here
love to quote the founders, as do I. The one glaring difference is that the majority of the folks here actually know what the fuck they're talking about. The majority of the folks here quote Jefferson and
actually live what the man preached, not just cherry-pick his beliefs the same way they cherry-pick the Bible.
Just to be clear, my original point was that neocons
love to quote the founding fathers
when it suits them, yet they ignore all the other stuff that doesn't quite fit their little neocon social-conservative Roman-Catholic agenda.