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Offline Kentactic

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The "Non-aggression principle"
« on: January 28, 2014, 12:45:06 PM »
Have any of you heard of this? I just had a debate over this with someone.  It seems to be something the super duper anarchist/Libertarian follows. Its kind of funny when you really break it down. It essentially dooms mankind to be overcome by evil.

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Re: The "Non-aggression principle"
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2014, 12:51:49 PM »
Never heard of it Ken but I will look into it.
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Re: The "Non-aggression principle"
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2014, 01:05:42 PM »
Thanks JM that link highlights some of my own issues with the belief.

The most prominent one I saw that may be more or less just this man I spoke with own interpretation of the idea, is that he said he didn't believe in aggression on say a politician who is directing aggression at them indirectly through power. For example Hitler. He always directed others to be aggressive. I see this as a fatal flaw.
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Re: The "Non-aggression principle"
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2014, 02:01:11 PM »
...he said he didn't believe in aggression on say a politician who is directing aggression at them indirectly through power. For example Hitler. He always directed others to be aggressive. I see this as a fatal flaw.
This is that man's opinion.  It is not a set-in-stone principle of non-aggression.  The main principle is that force can not be used as a response to a victimless crime... as a matter of fact, it would do away with any "crime" where there is no victim... in other words, there would be no such thing as a "crime against the state."  It would do away with the criminal courts leaving only civil courts (possibly with more teeth to make the courts effective).  Also see Voluntaryism.
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Re: The "Non-aggression principle"
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2014, 02:25:26 PM »
I understand and follow the principle of non-aggression as "I won't start violence but if you fuck with me I'll make you regret about it".

This is nothing new, just read what Benjamin Franklin thought about the rattlesnake meaning in the Gadsden flag:

http://goldstandard.hubpages.com/hub/Dont-Tread-On-Me-Flag-The-Significance-of-the-Rattlesnake
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Writing under the pseudonym of the “American Guesser” in 1775, Franklin explained: “… (The rattlesnake) has no eye-lids; she may therefore be esteemed an emblem of vigilance. She never begins an attack, nor, when once engaged, ever surrenders…she is therefore an emblem of magnanimity and true courage. The weapons with which nature has furnished her, she conceals in the roof of her mouth, so that, to those who are unacquainted with her, she appears to be a most defenseless animal…but (these weapons) and their (resulting) wounds however small, are decisive and fatal: Conscious of this, she never wounds till she has generously given notice, even to her enemy, and cautioned him against the danger of treading on her. Was I wrong in thinking this a strong picture of the temper and conduct of America?”



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Re: The "Non-aggression principle"
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2014, 05:41:29 PM »
WOW APX... I never read that passage from Ben before. Thanks!  :thumbsUp:

By the way if some of you have wondered what my avatar was, it is the maritime version of the Gadsden flag flown by the ships of the Revolution. History though has no basis to support the Navy's claim though.

Keep in mind, that the Gadsden flag is flown at Marine commands and is in fact on Marine uniforms.   
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