I firmly believe there were different camps within our founding father from the very beginning. We had primary influences from Free Masonry (Occult), Christianity, and Deist. So I don't doubt that some of those men had the greatest of intentions. Others however, not so much. I mean, how many Americans do you think realize today there are symbols of false gods that God directly condemned in the bible on our money? The great seal took two years to finish. It's really hard for me to believe that those men placed those symbols which directly come from pagan religions dating from the time of King Solomon without realizing what they were doing.
Yes, I agree on all points. Also, a technicality, it is not our money, it is the Federal Reserve's money, but I know that you knew that.
Another thing is if the men had the BEST of intentions they would have been much more biblical within our bill of rights and constitution. I mean does the bible tell you that you're free? Well God gave you free will so of course you are. But when government does it they seem to imply THEY are allowing you freedoms. Are you familiar with King Nimrod? He did something very similar. So yes, you are enjoying "freedoms." Freedoms you already had that got relabeled and someone else took credit for giving them to you. This is one way government psychologically obtains power. But hey like I've said many times before, don't listen to me, research it yourself. I can suggest books to read and people to listen to if it helps, but you only get out of it as much as you put in.
Yes, I'm familiar with Nimrod. I think our founding fathers did a fine job with how they started us off with the DOI, I just think that WE THE PEOPLE, have let down ourselves with self-government, and have continued to vote in a bunch of power hungry, corrupt, borderline criminals into office on the National level. I agree, there should have been more of this type of GOD and CREATOR language in our COTUS and BOR. I agree with you on that point. I'd be interested to see your ideas on how they could have been more Biblical in our BoR and COTUS. Just tell me what you think they should have done differently. As far as the Declaration of Independence, there was talk of God and Creator.
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. ? That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, ? That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness....
You see, they say it right there, that Governments do not endow its citizens with rights, but that rights are endowed by their Creator with these rights, and that the government should be instituted only to SECURE these God-given rights. That might explain why the liberals have tried so hard for that last 100 years to KILL GOD, so that there is no Creator to endow these rights, only government, and then at that point, rights endowed by the government can simply be taken away, which is exactly where I believe we are right now in this country. I do not believe that adding more Biblical things into our founding documents such as the BOR or COTUS, would have made a bit of difference in the government that we see today, because I believe the government that we live under today, is soft tyranny, and they have usurped and corrupted our founding government, the Republic died in 1865, and we haven't been living under the government that our founding fathers gave us, since that year. No matter how much Biblical foundation our founding fathers put in there, I believe it would have been just as corrupted, as if not more, than it is today. That still doesn't mean that I would not have liked to see similar language that was in the DOI, put into the BOR and COTUS. The bastards would have still hi-jacked our government. If there is ever a reclamation in this country, yes I wouldn't mind seeing more Biblical foundation in our BOR and COTUS, but I am also REALLY happy with the religion freedoms that we do have in this country without fear of persecution, and I would not change that for anything. Also, remember, that in the original founding government that had, STATES were Constitutionally able to have a religion, but it was the Federal government that was not allowed to pick a Federal religion, now which would be a National religion so to speak, because of 1865. Then you would just move to and live in whatever State had the religion that you liked, but that still nobody could be persecuted for their beliefs. The illegal and militarily ratified 14th amendment is the reason that no State can ever pick a religion, and why the entire Nation must be the same, just as all other laws. You see, the Radical Republican in office saw State's rights as an abomination, and saw to destroy the "Heresy" as they called it in 1865 and the succeeded, all in the name of continuing to end slavery, but it was really the largest National power grab ever to take place in the history of this country.
Think of this too. The ones who were thinking inside of God's will. Do you think they'd agree with the course our country's taken. God taken out the schools and government? How about the Deist and Free Masons? I'd say they got what they wanted and took care of God they way they wanted to. This is their nation and if we want it back we'll need a lot more than guns, beans, and tactical nylon. Knowledge. Historical revisionism is a dangerous thing used to control masses. I mean were you ever taught about Robert Owen or his associates? How about what Darwin was before he discovered evolution? Benjamin Franklin? Thomas Jefferson's feelings on God? Like I said, research it.
No, I don't think many of our founding fathers would agree with where our nation has gone, maybe Adams would agree, but that's about it. I agree, historical revisions is unbelievable dangerous, that's why I say go and see exactly what happened with the ratification of the 14th amendment with the States after the civil war was already over. The revisionism there and what we've been told is astonishing. I have not researched Robert Owen, but I will now that you mentioned it when I have some time. Yes, I know about Darwin, and Franklin, and Thomas Jefferson's feelings on God.
Those are just some things for you to think about as well. Thank you for answering my post.
