Unchained Preppers
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: RS762 on February 12, 2012, 11:10:40 PM
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Personally I think Bush threw the american dream out the window and Obama pissed on it where it fell.
forgive the royal "we" please.
I want to know this because from where im sitting it's hard to see what we are doing right.
Perhaps im just disillusioned and one of you noble patriots can bring me to my senses.
-We imprison more of our citizens than any other nation on earth.
-We are subject to Draconian anti-free speech laws through the Patriot act.
-Our most profitable corporations are outsourcing american jobs faster than they can build overseas factories.
-On paper we are the most warlike society the world has ever seen.
-We have a representative government that is in no way represents of the interests of the citizenry.
-We have more debt than any nation on earth.
-We have more foreign military bases and outposts in more countries than any previous known empire.
-We are the only nation to employ nuclear weapons in warfare.
-Our pointless war on drugs is fueling both the Narco war in Mexico and the growth of the Private-Prison industry at home.
-We topple elected leaders because they threaten US corporate interests through nationalization of resources.
I see a ton of flag-waving bullshit on this site and needless animosity towards outside nationalities and religions (mostly brown ones) accompanied by a holier-than-thou attitude and laughably absurd "they worship satan" type justifications.
What makes America better than other countries?
We are a country that fought an empire for it's independence and freedom and now we invade and occupy the nations of the earth, personally I think these kinds of actions bring limitless shame the United States of America and sully the names of all the people who have fought and died to protect it's system and ideals.
For a bunch of people who bitch about the nanny-state our country seems just fine to tell other nations how to run their affairs.
I want to know what you guys think, although personally i think im about to get flamed off this forum.
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-We imprison more of our citizens than any other nation on earth.
-We are subject to Draconian anti-free speech laws through the Patriot act.
-Our most profitable corporations are outsourcing american jobs faster than they can build overseas factories.
-On paper we are the most warlike society the world has ever seen.
-We have a representative government that is in no way represents of the interests of the citizenry.
-We have more debt than any nation on earth.
-We have more foreign military bases and outposts in more countries than any previous known empire.
-We are the only nation to employ nuclear weapons in warfare.
-Our pointless war on drugs is fueling both the Narco war in Mexico and the growth of the Private-Prison industry at home.
-We topple elected leaders because they threaten US corporate interests through nationalization of resources.
I don't know about anyone else, but I've seldom felt so much pride! [img]http://bestsmileys.com/ar
Sorry, but it's what we haven't done that we could have if we had chosen to that you're missing. If that's all we've done compared to what we could have done. I'd say we must have a nice streak in us somewhere.
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That's the shit im talking about Sledge.
You prefer the American Empire to the American Experiment.
It's not about "what we could have done" it's about what we have done, which is killed and imprisoned millions of people across the globe, no harm in that right Ol' Sledgy?
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That's the shit im talking about Sledge.
You prefer the American Empire to the American Experiment.
It's not about "what we could have done" it's about what we have done, which is killed and imprisoned millions of people across the globe, no harm in that right Ol' Sledgy?
Hogwash. We don't have an empire although we could have if we had wanted to. We've killed enemies. We haven't imprisoned nor could we afford to imprison millions across the globe.
You've bought in to a way of thinking that isn't real and was most likely created without your best interests or future survival in mind.
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That's the shit im talking about Sledge.
You prefer the American Empire to the American Experiment.
It's not about "what we could have done" it's about what we have done, which is killed and imprisoned millions of people across the globe, no harm in that right Ol' Sledgy?
Hogwash. We don't have an empire although we could have if we had wanted to. We've killed enemies. We haven't imprisoned nor could we afford to imprison millions across the globe.
You've bought in to a way of thinking that isn't real and was most likely created without your best interests or future survival in mind.
And you base this statement on???
So 1,180 overseas military bases don't constitute an empire?
A de facto oil reserve currency doesn't constitute an empire?
Military acts of aggression on nations thousands of miles away without congressional approval don't constitute an empire?
LOLOLOLOL There aren't "millions" of prisoners? there are nearly 8 million people in US prisons alone, the majority of which are private tax-eater conglomerates. This doesn't include people who have been renditioned to foreign countries.
Who here is really talking hogwash?
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Maybe you're right. Rather than imprisoning somebody, we should just cut off their hands for stealing. More debt, Obama has spent more than all other administrations combined. More foreign military bases around the world, probably from wiping everybody's asses around the world. The U.S. is a superpower, we use to be anyway. Some of the problems come with the territory. Agreed, some of this shit has gotten way out of hand. But it keeps PROGRESSING (Form of the word Progressive) in the wrong direction. Some of us Conservatives know how great this country is and was. We're disgusted with what it is becoming. The government can suck, but it's the people that make it great! and everybody is free to leave whenever they want to.
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Play nice guys. RS has some valid points and you need to keep in mind Sledge a lot of it has to do with generational differences. And I'll be blunt, he's got a point with the "empire" thing. It's an ugly word, but logistics don't lie. How long have the Koreans and the Japanese been after us to leave? There's a time to butt in and there's a time to piss off. We have a bad habit of confusing them. And people have yet to justify the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan for us. This nation has some serious issues and just blasting through the middle east didn't solve shit. In fact it only made things worse for us financially. That's like the father getting mad at the wife for not putting out and then beating the shit out of his kids when they didn't do shit. Then we get to shit like Iran and Israel and it's no wonder people don't what war. They have no fricking clue what the right thing to do is, but no one wants loss of life. I'm hitting the sack, but again, play nice.
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And you base this statement on???
So 1,180 overseas military bases don't constitute an empire?
A de facto oil reserve currency doesn't constitute an empire?
Military acts of aggression on nations thousands of miles away without congressional approval don't constitute an empire?
LOLOLOLOL There aren't "millions" of prisoners? there are nearly 8 million people in US prisons alone, the majority of which are private tax-eater conglomerates. This doesn't include people who have been renditioned to foreign countries.
Who here is really talking hogwash?
I'll be going to bed soon so please don't think this is going to turn into a long discussion. :)
1180 Military bases. - We cannot have a military base in "any" country, or for that matter fly over any country without their permission. In fact we've removed military bases when told we no longer had permission for those bases. Doesn't exactly sound like a dominating empire does it?
A de facto oil reserve currency. - For nations to do business they have to have a common denominator to to ensure values exchanged are stable without constant large fluctuations. The dollar was selected because of the size and purchasing power of our economy. The government has shot the trust factor in our currency stability in the foot so we'll probably loose that status soon. Does that make the next reserve currency an empire?
Military acts of aggression on nations thousands of miles away. - No that doesn't make us an empire. It makes us a military power with a long reach. If we were an empire we would have been running their government and had forces in country to squash rebellion to our rule.
There are nearly 8 million people in US prisons - How does that qualify the worldwide statement you made. We have people who have broken laws. Mostly drug related. Whether the laws were a good idea is a different argument. If you don't like the laws try to have them changed. Breaking them until then means the person took a risk knowing what the consequences would be if they were caught. Look on the bright side. 8 million prisoners means we are still a country of risk takers.
I know you won't agree with any of that, Doesn't matter, I still like you. You're very polite for a guy who has such outlandish ideas. :)
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I know you won't agree with any of that, Doesn't matter, I still like you. You're very polite for a guy who has such outlandish ideas.
lol i can say the same of you friend
It's because im one of those crazy anarcho-capitalist voluntarist paul-tards.
If one doesn't have principles, lofty though they may be, then what does he have?
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Roger that sledge....
RS I know were you are coming from.
And I don't like us being everywere either.
But we aren't and empire. We are just douchbags.
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What makes America exceptional is the kick ass people who do the right thing EVERYDAY, regardless of Law, or money,or beliefs. There are a lot of messed up people in the world and we need to watch out for them.
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Good night guys ! Over and out.
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I agree 100% with RS's original post....It could not have been said better in such a limited space.
Face it folks, our 'rulers' ARE the 'bad guys.' And all who support or carry out 'their' orders are complicit.
As it stands now, you'll get no flag waving from me!
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I agree special-k and RS, but what makes us as a "country" "exceptional" is we still, for the time being, hold the means to make change in our .gov, especially since it has been stepping WAY out of line. Unfortunately there are enough sheeple with their heads planted in their asses that change will now be hard.
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...but what makes us as a "country" "exceptional" is we still, for the time being, hold the means to make change in our .gov, especially since it has been stepping WAY out of line...
A strong argument could be made that we no longer "hold the means to make change in our govt."
and that the means you refer to has evolved into a well crafted illusion.
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...but what makes us as a "country" "exceptional" is we still, for the time being, hold the means to make change in our .gov, especially since it has been stepping WAY out of line...
A strong argument could be made that we no longer "hold the means to make change in our govt."
and that the means you refer to has evolved into a well crafted illusion.
Well they haven't taken all the guns yet. Beyond that... you're right... lol
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...but what makes us as a "country" "exceptional" is we still, for the time being, hold the means to make change in our .gov, especially since it has been stepping WAY out of line...
A strong argument could be made that we no longer "hold the means to make change in our govt."
and that the means you refer to has evolved into a well crafted illusion.
+1 Well frickin' said.
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I've heard all of this kind of talk before. America's bad and does bad things. There's no reason to be proud to be an American so hold your eyes to the ground in shame. It was back in the late 70's after Vietnam. The longer you live the more you realize things run in cycles. I know where it leads too. It leads to us getting a bloody nose when the world buys into it.
Funny how there are similarities between then and now. Carter/Obama are pretty much the same. Finishing off a war by tying our military's hands in engagement which caused the war to be long and dragged out. Americans loosing stomach for the war they could have easily won if they had been committed to winning it without the BS. So for political reasons our military is forced to quit because their hands are tied. Our enemy didn't have to defeat us. They only had to outlast our people's resolve in what it was willing to stand for. Not that hard to do apparently as it happens time and time again. And the world has noticed.
Just as then the economy in the toilet because of bad leadership. Unemployment is at unacceptable levels. Yep, this all looks familiar. Get ready for weakness and a bloody nose. It's coming.
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get this forum on TELEVISION, and open some eyes. the sheeple will remain unless everything is layed out just right for them. MEDIA rules. The people still have the power. the problem is the Media is ran by our beloved guberment.
I think is still a glint of hope to fix the gaggle-fuck but it will take an overhaul of our media.
Ron Paul probably hasn't said anything because they would just paint him up to be crazy and further smear bull shit all over whats left of the truth.
Youtube will always just be a place for people like us to vent and bitch noone (sheeple) will care they will just see it as some guys wearing their tin foil hats counting their beans and rice reserves, while cleaning their rifles.
I for one am for Ragnar?k, no I dont mean the popular MMO. I mean the reset of earth, when the planet is sick of us and devours everything and only those who are prepared to survive, survive and rebuild.
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Great post, RS. We have definitely lost our exceptional status in my mind. Both economically and politically. We are still better than most every other country out there as far as personal freedom, so just remember that, we're still better than most countries.
I will not defend some of our country's actions, though. Espeically, when it comes to useless unconstitutional wars.
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We are still better than most every other country out there as far as personal freedom, so just remember that, we're still better than most countries.
As far a gun rights are concerned, yes, we're better off than most.
However Americans have ZERO freedom of ingestion. Not to mention free speech, right of assembly, and right to privacy are violated more and more everyday. Things like the "Patriot Act", NDAA, and SOPA will make sure we don't get "too free".
I dunno, people talk about all this "freedom" they have without realizing the ones they have lost.
Back during prohibition you were still allowed to produce and consume alcohol for personal use, just not for distribution or sale.
The drug war is the most obvious symptom of the disease of tyranny, it criminalizes personal behavior and turns the citizenry against one another, divide and conquer at it's best.
Anti-police and Anti-authoritarian thought are at their highest point since i've been alive, my generation is pissed. All the hippy-dippy types i know that never owned guns before are buying them now. When I ask them why they say they are buying guns while they still can because eventually they will need to protect themselves from the government. Plain and simple.
The police and military better hope they step out of the way when shit goes down hill, otherwise it'll get messy, no-one likes cops anymore, and they should quit while they still can.
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We are still better than most every other country out there as far as personal freedom, so just remember that, we're still better than most countries.
As far a gun rights are concerned, yes, we're better off than most.
However Americans have ZERO freedom of ingestion. Not to mention free speech, right of assembly, and right to privacy are violated more and more everyday. Things like the "Patriot Act", NDAA, and SOPA will make sure we don't get "too free".
I dunno, people talk about all this "freedom" they have without realizing the ones they have lost.
Back during prohibition you were still allowed to produce and consume alcohol for personal use, just not for distribution or sale.
The drug war is the most obvious symptom of the disease of tyranny, it criminalizes personal behavior and turns the citizenry against one another, divide and conquer at it's best.
Anti-police and Anti-authoritarian thought are at their highest point since i've been alive, my generation is pissed. All the hippy-dippy types i know that never owned guns before are buying them now. When I ask them why they say they are buying guns while they still can because eventually they will need to protect themselves from the government. Plain and simple.
The police and military better hope they step out of the way when shit goes down hill, otherwise it'll get messy, no-one likes cops anymore, and they should quit while they still can.
I'm not arguing with you at all, I've got a long list of usurpation and abuses written down, that I have major problems with our government, our laws, and how little freedom we have. We still have a lot more freedom than many countries do as well.
Also, look at it this way, THERE ARE A LOT MORE OF US THAN THERE ARE OF THEM. They way I look at it, LIVE FREE, DO WHAT YOU WANT. Don't worry about the laws, because chances are you won't be caught anyway or charged, and probably not convicted. The bad side to that coin is that IF you get really unlucky and do get pinched, then be a man suck it up and do your fines and time, but for the most part, live free as you can man.
This ship is going down, so right now, enjoy your life, and live as a free man.
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So what are you going to do? That question is to everyone on this forum.
OK I am back to work after a 15 month vacation. I was in a meeting today when a bunch of folks started to whine about a bunch of small shit.
I was keeping my mouth shut and the CEO asked me, "JohnyMac what do you think?" I said, to the group, "So what are you going to do?" Which made everyone look at their breakfast plates.
So I am asking you (No body called out here) What are you going to do?
It's easy to bitch...It's harder to identify a problem and solve it. [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
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That depends on the situation. There's not much I can do right now other than vote and speak my mind. If things go to total crap I'll do what I have to do and make sure those I care about survive.
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[URL=http://www.smileyvault.co Sledge
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I'm with Sledge. I don't worry about too much. Well not the same things as some others anyway. My wife has fought cancer 5 times, my 15 year old daughter was recently diagnosed with a couple of different illnesses. I got really screwed by that housing thing ( I didn't bye a house I couldn't afford. I purposely stayed way below what I could afford.) I messed up by getting an adjustable mortgage. The bastards just kept selling my mortgage back and forth until it got ridiculous. Now, I am pulling myself out of trouble without a penny of taxpayers money. Luckily I have a very good job. So instead of being comfortable, I'm keeping my head above water. A couple more years, God willing and the creeks don't rise, I'll be back to normal. (knock on wood). So I won't be getting caught up in too many in depth discussions on world problems. I'm just trying to keep things as simple as possible. You younger guys might want to take it a little slower and enjoy what you can. It can all change in a heartbeat. If the SHTF, All I can do is what I can do, and hope for the best. Vote and get involved, do what you can. But some things you're not going to change. So don't let it all rent too much space in your head. Enjoy Life!
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I'm with Sledge. I don't worry about too much. Well not the same things as some others anyway. My wife has fought cancer 5 times, my 15 year old daughter was recently diagnosed with a couple of different illnesses. I got really screwed by that housing thing ( I didn't bye a house I couldn't afford. I purposely stayed way below what I could afford.) I messed up by getting an adjustable mortgage. The bastards just kept selling my mortgage back and forth until it got ridiculous. Now, I am pulling myself out of trouble without a penny of taxpayers money. Luckily I have a very good job. So instead of being comfortable, I'm keeping my head above water. A couple more years, God willing and the creeks don't rise, I'll be back to normal. (knock on wood). So I won't be getting caught up in too many in depth discussions on world problems. I'm just trying to keep things as simple as possible. You younger guys might want to take it a little slower and enjoy what you can. It can all change in a heartbeat. If the SHTF, All I can do is what I can do, and hope for the best. Vote and get involved, do what you can. But some things you're not going to change. So don't let it all rent too much space in your head. Enjoy Life!
Since I'm not sure how to quote from one section to another, and when I hit quote ,this is where it put me. I'll reply from here........ I've wondered since I read "Rant",If this reply had anything to do with said Rant. It just seemed odd that the last thing I said was Enjoy Life, and one of the first things in " Rant " was Enjoy Life. I haven't seen those two words on this site before. ( not that I recall) I don't know how the above reply could be taken anyway other than it was meant. In fact, parts of Rant is exactly what I was talking about. Enjoy Life wasn't meant as a wish for anyone to bang a ho. It was meant how it sounds. It's okay to be concerned about all the problems of the world. But there is a lot of good in it too. Take time to enjoy it. That's all! If it had nothing to do with it, then in the words of Gilda Radner as Emily Litella.....Never mind! And at the risk of misinterpretation , Have A Nice Day!......... LOL
http://youtu.be/V3FnpaWQJO0 (http://youtu.be/V3FnpaWQJO0)
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WW can speak for himself however what you wrote on the 13th is right on and I agree.
IMO and in part what WW was saying was that not only do we need to put away beans, bullets and band-aides we need to also put away some spirituality. Also to understand that God doesn't give a rats patoody about our Constitution, Barry's big ears or Mitts flip flopping. He is concerned with our souls. And their is a majestic fight going on now between God and the Devil for our souls, e.g. having a three way with a few ho's.
Then on the other hand we have folks that call themselves Americans who don't have a clue. They blame others without accepting responsibility for their actions. Without holding up their hand on their own and saying, "I will make it happen." But yet these folks will be knocking on our doors when the SHTF asking for us to share what we have. If we choose not to they will try to take it. Kind of sounds like our government now.
Hey, if you want a minute of reality google "Greece + violence or Greece + famine or food- That is coming our way. Isn't it interesting that the main stream media isn't reporting on it BUT they are reporting on Whitney Houston or the dog show non stop.
Again, "Don't pay any attention to the man behind the curtain."
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Believe me ,I keep up with it. I know how screwed up things are. We definitely need to turn things around. I only wondered if the the reply had anything to do with the rant or how. Later!
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Believe me ,I keep up with it. I know how screwed up things are. We definitely need to turn things around. I only wondered if the the reply had anything to do with the rant or how. Later!
Yeah, you deserve some credit lol. You and JM's comments got me rolling on some of my rant. You guys both possess years, experience, and good perspective on "life." Something that needs to be pointed out and everyone can learn from. I'm happy your wife made it through too by the way. Your "enjoy life" comment, in the context, was the right message. The exact opposite of the guy I was referring to in the beginning of my rant wanting a threesome with my coworker. I'm fed up with people who only care about drugs, money, and a piece of ass. I mean seriously, do you know what the illigetimacy rates are in the USA right now? It's sickening. Better stop before I let my convictions take over and write another rant lol.
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Glad to hear from ya WW! Have a good day. Gotta get to work.
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Well, no work today. I'm waiting on a tow truck. My wife will be taking my 17 year old daughter for a checkup , she wrecked my car on the way home to return my car to go to work. See what I mean guys? It can all change in a heartbeat.
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Well, no work today. I'm waiting on a tow truck. My wife will be taking my 17 year old daughter for a checkup , she wrecked my car on the way home to return my car to go to work. See what I mean guys? It can all change in a heartbeat.
Sorry hjmoosejaw. Hope she was alright.
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Thanks Sledge. She's a little sore but apparently okay. My car has a missing headlight, banged up driver door, some other dents and it steers a little weird. Gonna have to get it up on a rack to see if any damage was done underneath. She came around a curve (too fast) and lost control, went into a deep ditch, spun around a few times going down through the ditch about 50 yards. Came to stop in the ditch and luckily didn't roll. Got it pulled out a little while ago. The ditch is pretty ugly. Thanks again!
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i hate when someone gets in an accident and people say aw man ur car got messed up! to me the car is no big deal, as long as no one was hurt. Glad shes okay man [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
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Thanks Backwoodsboy! I know what you mean. They got a way of scaring the hell out of ya. It sucked, the wife and I had to take my daughter's car and get gas in it first before we could get to her. That's why she had my car. She's always leaving only fumes in her tank. You can't tell them anything. They know it all.
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Thank Backwoodsboy! I know what you mean. They got a way of scaring the hell out of ya. It sucked, the wife and I had to take my daughter's car and get gas in it first before we could get to her. That's why she had my car. She's always leaving only fumes in her tank. You can't tell them anything. They know it all.
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EXACTLY! lol
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Sledge doesn't "rock the boat" and seems to rationalize for a national agenda he knows in his heart is wrong. I've seen this behavior before with the baby boomers, especially in my parents. As long as they get to retire in comfort, to hell with everyone else, right? Dissent is the highest form of patriotism. There are certain moral absolutes which transcend time: rape, murder, wars of aggression, etc will always be wrong. Yeah, trust in the system and the government. It wouldn't do anything to harm you! [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at It's not da Ohio, it's not da Mississippi, it's DENIAL!
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Sledge doesn't "rock the boat" and seems to rationalize for a national agenda he knows in his heart is wrong. I've seen this behavior before with the baby boomers, especially in my parents. As long as they get to retire in comfort, to hell with everyone else, right? Dissent is the highest form of patriotism. There are certain moral absolutes which transcend time: rape, murder, wars of aggression, etc will always be wrong. Yeah, trust in the system and the government. It wouldn't do anything to harm you! [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at It's not da Ohio, it's not da Mississippi, it's DENIAL!
You make a lot of incorrect assumptions as to my reasoning. No worries. Perhaps you'll develop more of a talent for it with time.
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It has nothing to do with assuming. Fact(s): I am a generation X-er. The first generation in the history of America to be worse off than our parents. Nothing to do with our work ethic; I bust my ass at work (yes, I am one of the lucky Americans to still have a good job and insurance) and so do my friends. No matter how hard we work all my friends (and myself included) are ALL worse off than our parents. I'm talking about people with college degrees and serious work ethic, not slobs off the street. Can't help but think we are getting screwed; taxed to heavily to support the military-industrial complex. Fact: I and my X-er peers pay a higher percentage of Social Security tax than my parents' and Sledge's generation ever did, and it is just going up. [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
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I can't speak for Sledge,but he's in the same age group as me I think. Speaking for myself, it's not that I "don't want to rock the boat" or anything like that. And we definitely don't think "the hell with everybody else " On the contrary, we care an immense amount about the next generation. Our sons and daughters are the next generation. And believe me, I would rather that they have it all. I could care less about what I have. I have lived on just about nothing and could do it again with no problem. I only need a hunting and fishing license each year. Some shells, some arrows. I can live pretty simple. It don't take much to keep me happy. In fact, in some ways, I was happier when I had less. But when I was younger, you'd be hard pressed to find someone that had more piss and vinegar in them than me. I was a pretty crazy mother @%#*^!. We had our rebellious days. There has always been B.S. with the Gubment, social problems and such. Granted, there seems to be an incredible amount nowadays. But after years of seeing shit come at ya from different directions time after time. You just get used to picking your battles more carefully. We just don't have the P&V we use to. That's not an excuse, that's just the way it is. Again,believe me , we do very much care and Thank God we still have the ones with P&V. I hope it last as long as possible. Keep up the good fight ! ........Just my 2 cents.
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Note: I posted my above reply not knowing the two above it were there. That being said, I wouldn't change any of it but would like to make a comment or two on the one. The Gen-X does have their share of problems but we have to keep in mind that the older ones didn't always have what they have now. They've had time to aquire things and settle in some. Hopefully they did. As far as my generation, I know we didn't have it as hard as my dad's generation did. He could tell you some stories about the depression. No cell phones, no microwaves, Hell, no shoes half the time. Everybody has it hard. Just in different ways . Again, my 2 cents.
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It has nothing to do with assuming. Fact(s): I am a generation X-er. The first generation in the history of America to be worse off than our parents. Nothing to do with our work ethic; I bust my ass at work (yes, I am one of the lucky Americans to still have a good job and insurance) and so do my friends. No matter how hard we work all my friends (and myself included) are ALL worse off than our parents. I'm talking about people with college degrees and serious work ethic, not slobs off the street. Can't help but think we are getting screwed; taxed to heavily to support the military-industrial complex. Fact: I and my X-er peers pay a higher percentage of Social Security tax than my parents' and Sledge's generation ever did, and it is just going up. [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
I don't know why you launched this verbal attack against me.
Sledge doesn't "rock the boat" and seems to rationalize for a national agenda he knows in his heart is wrong. I've seen this behavior before with the baby boomers, especially in my parents. As long as they get to retire in comfort, to hell with everyone else, right? It's not da Ohio, it's not da Mississippi, it's DENIAL!
I do know that you were making assumptions that have nothing to do with "facts" in relation to me. Not only were they incorrect, they were highly insulting. You don't know shit about me except for what I've said here which is pretty damn little. I don't share much about myself because it's really no one else's business and why should they care. I don't feel the need to impress people I don't really know. The people who do know me and matter already know who I am, what I've done, and what I stand for. And no one that knows me talks to me like you did.
You don't have to tell me governments do shitty things. They all do. Just like people they are not all good and not all bad. Some are worse than others. That said, I stand with my tribe against all others through good and bad. Because some of those other tribes would subjugate us if they had the chance and strength. You can believe that or not it really doesn't matter to me. I've seen how the world is and know what to expect from it. We have different world views. I don't attack others for thinking differently, don't attack me.
I know the economy sucks and I know who is responsible for it. I'm dealing with it and I've got 5 kids that are dealing with it the same as you and everyone else out there.
So here is the moral: I didn't cause your problems so get off my ass!
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Guys, everyone needs to take two steps back, take 10 deep breathes and exhale slowly. We're all going to hold different world views and that's just shit people need to learn to deal with. Becoming hostile towards one another over what you may or may not percieve in text is childish. If your first glance at a message seems offensive take a few minutes to try and understand where that person is coming from. Ultimately one's perception is their reality so you're going to have a real hard time convincing them otherwise without attempting to understand them anyways.
Oh, and the "smiting" over shit like this is even more juvenille. I personally don't care about the shit, but it really shows character, or a lack there of when people start "smiting" over something this stupid. I thought the karma was supposed to be a system for having fun?
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LOL! I don't need to take deep breaths. I'm not pissed. I'm just correcting someones perception about me and my effect on their life. (Which is nil, noda, nothing.)
I accept that people have different world views and that many of them are different from mine. It doesn't bother me and I don't need to change their mind. Life will do that for them as it has for me over time. I don't need to understand them or why they think like they do because it has no effect on what I'm doing or thinking.
Thanks for trying to play peace maker but I'm not in a war with 1000 or for that matter, even angry at him. I'm just letting him know he can't put words or thoughts on me that don't apply. He can think those things about me if he wishes he just doesn't need to share those thoughts with me.
It's all good.
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Alright, well it's not totally how it came across, but if you insist I'll leave it be.
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Alright, well it's not totally how it came across, but if you insist I'll leave it be.
Well, maybe I came across a little gruffer than I intended. I haven't been in a real good mood for the past few days. I had to put the dog my kids grew up with down the other day because her cancer came back. There were a lot of tears involved and it tears me up when I see my kids hurting.
RIP Pom-Pom the PomPoo. She never met another dog or person that she didn't instantly love. But her greatest love was the truck. She loved trucks!
A little story about Pom-Pom.
The girls picked her out when she was a puppy. I asked them what they wanted to name the foo foo dog. They said, "Daddy we're going to name her Pom-Pom because she was Pom-Pom the PomPoo. I said, "Oh, I see." And so it was.
Years later the girls all grew up and moved out on there own. So I was stuck taking this foo foo dog for walks. Inevitably we'd come across other guys out walking their dogs and of course Pom-Pom would want to go over and say hello. I'd ask what their dog's name was? It would always be Killer, or Brutus, or Warrior or something like that. They'd ask what my dog's name was? I'd look sheepishly at the ground and say, "Oh her. Well, ah, her name is Pom-Pom." They'd usually respond with something like, "Really?"
I'd walk away talking to myself, "I can't believe those girls did this to me, this just doesn't fit my image!" "Look dog. You're gonna have to start growling at those other dogs or something!" Oh course, she never would. Foo foo outfit.
Well, I kind of miss those walks now.
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Alright, well it's not totally how it came across, but if you insist I'll leave it be.
Well, maybe I came across a little gruffer than I intended. I haven't been in a real good mood for the past few days. I had to put the dog my kids grew up with down the other day because her cancer came back. There were a lot of tears involved and it tears me up when I see my kids hurting.
It's all good man. Saying that puts the whole thing in better perspective. Loosing a dog is never easy. Well sometimes, but a good dog can feel like loosing a family member. Better to talk about it than let it get to you though.
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Sorry about your pooch, man. I have one that is 14 and another that is 12. I know their days are probably numbered and I'm gonna miss them alot when the time comes.
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Sorry about your pooch, man. I have one that is 14 and another that is 12. I know their days are probably numbered and I'm gonna miss them alot when the time comes.
Thanks man. I miss that little foo foo outfit. Sorry I got cranky.