Unchained Preppers
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: sauerofkraut on February 05, 2012, 01:50:12 PM
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What is your opinion of modern militias? Do they have any usefulness or not?
thank you for your response
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Of course they can be useful, but like any other organization, people won't get behind them if there isn't a sense of legitimacy. If you watch mainstream news, they would have you think that all militia units are bitter, racist anti-government crazies. Such is not the case, but who looks for the truth anymore?
The best example of a militia done RIGHT is the 51st in Missouri. Look them up on Youtube. They have a great PR campaign going and focus their relation-building efforts based on community needs that have nothing to do with military-esque situations. They do S&R, medical assistance, charity work, and other things that no one could possible oppose (logically).
In my opinion, the word "militia" has been soiled beyond redemption for the time being. People should create groups and call them something else like "Neighborhood Action Committee" or a friendlier title. Might even be a good idea to ditch the ranks, uniforms, insignias, etc. Unless you're talking to a rancher on the Mexican border under threat from the Zetas, most people see no need for an armed organization outside the police.
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Useful or not??
Dude, Modern Militias have a nasty habit of getting their member's doors kicked in because of backroom discussions that most members are never privy to.
You as a prepper are taking a risk by associating with Militants.
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Useful or not??
Dude, Modern Militias have a nasty habit of getting their member's doors kicked in because of backroom discussions that most members are never privy to.
You as a prepper are taking a risk by associating with Militants.
just answered for me [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
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No not really. We don't need armed groups of civilians doing the jobs of police officers and the national guard. IMHO
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No way in hell.
Can you image a bunch of mall ninja's and old folks squaring up against modern military? They would get molested.
A Technical is no match for an Apache
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Done properly. Yes.
Run the way they currently are? Nope.
I found a local small militia group back about a year and half ago and was thinking about joining. Thankfully I didn't. Not to speak poorly of the individuals, but their organization was bogus. Planning was poor. And the fact that they were using Facebook as a main means of communication [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at Plus, to be blunt, I don't care who you are or where you come from. Unless you're the leader of said militia you're going to be giving up certain things when you join. Besides, family can be a big enough pain in the ass to take care of let alone a bunch of rednecks with itchy trigger fingers that just came off a 12 hour mountain dew modern warfare 3 binge.
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No way in hell.
Can you image a bunch of mall ninja's and old folks squaring up against modern military? They would get molested.
A Technical is no match for an Apache
I agree, I say don't fuck with the military or the private contractors. Let them do their jobs. Of course you should defend your home if they go crazy, but at any other time leave them alone.
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Done properly. Yes.
Run the way they currently are? Nope.
Summed it up perfectly WW. Karma plus for you. [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
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How would you run one to get it right
Done properly. Yes.
Run the way they currently are? Nope.
Summed it up perfectly WW. Karma plus for you.
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Done properly. Yes.
Run the way they currently are? Nope.
Summed it up perfectly WW. Karma plus for you.
How would you run one and get it right
I wouldn't ever want to try. Have no use for wasting my time with the ego-maniacs, the psychologically unstable, and just plain idiots to try and form something that I would trust my life to.
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What is your opinion of modern militias? Do they have any usefulness or not?
thank you for your response
I understand what some of you guys are saying in the remarks about militia. I think you've missed a very important point. We "need" the militia.
Why?
Well how about this: ?A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.?
Without that statement in support of the militia you probably would have already kissed your favorite weapons goodbye. :)
The modern militia is just as important as the 1776 militia. Maybe even more so.
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Good thoughts man good thoughts.
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lol im only part of one militia
Metallica - Metal militia(With lyrics!) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1G0TJ_89ao#)
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lol im only part of one militia
Metallica - Metal militia(With lyrics!) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1G0TJ_89ao#[/url])
I've granted Ye karma!
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Sledge, that militia was formed in responce to an actual event not one of these perceived slights or bad news articles. They joined and fought.
We have no event that is worthy of total war.. not yet.
When we do it will be a different story.
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As it stands I can not advocate for any 'organization' that occurs outside of the pantry.
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Sledge, that militia was formed in responce to an actual event not one of these perceived slights or bad news articles. They joined and fought.
We have no event that is worthy of total war.. not yet.
When we do it will be a different story.
Actually TG, the "well regulated militia" is mentioned after the event (war of independence) and has never been disbanded as is denoted by "being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
It is basically saying the people are the militia.
Another interesting thing is the term "well regulated". During the 1700's the definition was- working properly as designed. It didn't have anything to do with the definition we would recognize today as in being highly regulated.
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Sledge, that militia was formed in responce to an actual event not one of these perceived slights or bad news articles. They joined and fought.
We have no event that is worthy of total war.. not yet.
When we do it will be a different story.
Actually TG, the "well regulated militia" is mentioned after the event (war of independence) and has never been disbanded as is denoted by "being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
It is basically saying the people are the militia.
Another interesting thing is the term "well regulated". During the 1700's the definition was- working properly as designed. It didn't have anything to do with the definition we would recognize today as in being highly regulated.
Not to be an ass, but you two need to take this matter up via PM before anyone gets their feelings hurt. :P Bwhahahahahaha Couldn't resist, but seriously, Sledge if you find a moral, ethical, responsible, and highly educated militia please let me know and I'd be happy to join. I see both sides of this discussion, but again it comes down to the fact of what todays militia represents in many peoples eyes. The unfortunate fact, where I will disagree with TG, is that a militia is needed now before a true battle is waged against the American people and before the Constitution, which only acts as a legal guardian of our rights, is totally stripped from us. However, we are presented with the likelihood of being surrounded by Rainbow Six patriots, mall cops, asshats, tree huggers, Occupiers, KKK, and complete dumbasses of all races, creeds, and classes. That sir I do not wish for even on my worst of days.
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LOL! What was that? A little payback? :) I don't think TG and I get hurt feelings.
Oh, you don't need to join a militia WW. You're already in the original. Every citizen is whether they like it or not. :)
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Most militias are a joke.
All of the serious ones that I know of have removed all online presence, if they had any to begin with.
They also are actually very selective over who they allow in, not just to keep out crazies and fed infiltrators , heck some of the members are active duty federal agents, but because they want people who actually know what they are doing.
If anything, the average militia provides a smokescreen for the real ones.
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I do find this militia discussion *amusing* and I'm taking notes.
I will refrain from asshole ripping bite my tongue...for now. :-X
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I have no military experience. I can not afford to take classes ala Front Sight. If I could find a militia locally that wasn't a bunch of Mall Ninja, right or left wing types I would join.
My brother and I have a friend who is retired Army. He is kind of a help when he is at the BOL however, he is more interested in relaxing then running us through maneuvers. Can't blame him.
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LOL! What was that? A little payback? :) I don't think TG and I get hurt feelings.
Oh, you don't need to join a militia WW. You're already in the original. Every citizen is whether they like it or not. :)
Payback? I was just being my usual smartass self ;D
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I have no military experience. I can not afford to take classes ala Front Sight. If I could find a militia locally that wasn't a bunch of Mall Ninja, right or left wing types I would join.
Same here man, that's how I feel.
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If things ever get really bad here, militias will come back into fashion again, just as they did before. There will be a time that they are needed.
I agree, a lot of the militas out there today are jokes, and some are even filled with nut jobs and fed provocateurs as well.
Its best to get to know your neighbors, but keep your OPSEC up, befriend them, if things ever get bad here, you're going to have to all band together, and you're going to need each other. Then you'll have your own neighborhood militia type things, but until then, stay the hell away from them.
Look into resilient communities. http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2008/01/the-resilient-c.html (http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2008/01/the-resilient-c.html)
Get to know your neighbors. Befriend them. Keep your OPSEC up.
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militais are a joke except for like the texas militia where its ex military and they actually serve a purpose like patrolling the border in organized events
i think they even adopted a highway...
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DONT MESS WITH TEXAS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BviOzGObHjo#ws)
JOPLIN MISSOURI TORNADO TEXAS STATE MILITIA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah0l5MFqvLc#ws)
Texas State Militia- Sept FTX 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seN6jdCiqXE#ws)
Texas State Militia Gear (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWuoqLaEq-I#ws)
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Nice kit, But There is nothing I hat more than that stupid red dot.
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thank you for your input
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Texas and i thinl Michigan both have afew solid ones but in genral most are useless and will be a good source of ammo when SHTF
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Texas and i thinl Michigan both have afew solid ones but in genral most are useless and will be a good source of ammo when SHTF
and most of em have feds too
either way i am totally starting a new prepper group here in wyoming [url=http://www.freesmileys.or
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Texas and i thinl Michigan both have afew solid ones but in genral most are useless and will be a good source of ammo when SHTF
and most of em have feds too
either way i am totally starting a new prepper group here in wyoming
Wait, I thought you lived in Colorado, MNT. What? Do you live in Wyoming now?
Yeah, I think starting a prepper group would be a great idea.
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Texas State Militia- Sept FTX 2011 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seN6jdCiqXE#ws[/url])
I didn't know ThatGuy has a twin that lives in Texas. 1:13. :))
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This is the problem with some of the militia's. Whether they are innocent or guilty of charges who wants to go through this kind of crap.
Militia trial starts in Michigan with jury picks
http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20120207/US.FBI.Raids.Militia/ (http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20120207/US.FBI.Raids.Militia/)
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This is the problem with some of the militia's. Whether they are innocent or guilty of charges who wants to go through this kind of crap.
Militia trial starts in Michigan with jury picks
[url]http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20120207/US.FBI.Raids.Militia/[/url] ([url]http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20120207/US.FBI.Raids.Militia/[/url])
I wasn't aware they were also facing "weapons charges" too.
I wonder what kind.
Knowing law enforcement it's probably some stupid 922(r) shit or something.
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Yeah, I'm sure they've trumped up every kind of charge you can imagine. The whole case was almost thrown out because the conversations and the plans were all cooked up by a female FBI agent. Then she couldn't remember a lot of the details the charges were based on. It sounded like a lot of BS.
Something else that sounded like a lot of BS were the so called bad ass militia members. When the feds showed up asking the Michigan Militia questions about the Hutaree who had trained with them they all went all goowey inside providing the Feds with everything they knew. Then the Hutaree, who had claimed if the ABC's ever showed up they would go down in a hail of gunfire, never fired off a shot. Not a single one of them.
Sorry, a lot of militia's are a joke. Just people talking shit and playing bad ass in the woods for a hobby. When push comes to shove they get down on their knees quick.
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My brother in law is a judge in the next county over. He knew about the raid two days ahead of time. He told me the swat team snuck in at dawn. the hutaree never knew they where there until it was to late.
Also the michigan milita gave them up because they knew they where turning into more of a bunch of amatur gun runners and wannabe demo experts......the MM knew these guys where gonna end up hurting a lot of innocent people . That is why they gave them up.
The only reason I know all this was cause of my brother in law and his drunk ass open mouth .... ;D
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Hutaree Viewed Warily by Other Mich. Militia
Hutaree Viewed Warily by Other Mich. Militia (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoZJKGbJDtc#)
Hutaree Training
Hutaree (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apmn9xMxiZ4#)
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Same concept & prob the same beliefs as the 1st militias...just a bigger/better arsenal now, also necessary