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War? Crash? Tougher Times Ahead?
« on: July 18, 2014, 09:26:49 AM »
Well now...It is truly amazing what 24 hours brings us. Lets review what has happened:

1) DJ took a 160 point drop yesterday: What will happen today?
2) Israel began air, land & sea operations against Gaza yesterday.
3) Pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine shot down a commercial aircraft yesterday resulting in 298 people dead.

Then of course there is the usual crap like:

A) Tens of thousand of illegal immigrants migrating across the southern border. Twenty percent or so people under the
     age of 17. Many with vermin and disease we have not seen in the United States in decades.
B) ISIS has taken over 1/3 of Iraq.
C) Scandals that are eroding the faith in our federal government by its citizens.

Not to be over dramatic here but... Are we living the beginning of the end? The beginning of a complete breakdown of the system?

Things to look forward too are:

I)   November mid-term elections
II)  Q2 GDP report
III) Inflation on everyday household items like; gas, food, heating fuel, etc
IV) Reduction in our military - Quantity.
V) What have I missed?

So for you prognosticators and history buffs out there, What do you think is going to happen over the next 24 hours, week, month and six months. It's O-Kay to think outside the box and/or your comfort zone.

I will hold off my thoughts and predictions for a time in hopes of not tainting your thoughts.

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Re: War? Crash? Tougher Times Ahead?
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2014, 11:54:24 AM »
I find it interesting that the downsize in our military's capabilities comes after a prolonged period of time in which our internal law enforcement agencies are increasing their own combat capabilities. We're reducing an already exhausted military, limiting our ability to deter or fight foreign aggressors. We're doing nothing but getting weaker. That's a bad thing, whether there is some greater, evil scheme in mind or not. I think we've already lost our top-dog position on this planet...I'm just waiting to see who is going to step up and take our place.

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Re: War? Crash? Tougher Times Ahead?
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2014, 12:30:41 PM »
To answer you question Rah45....China and or Russia.

What concerns me is that all of these events are having less and less affect on me. I guess I am becoming numb.  :facepalm:
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Re: War? Crash? Tougher Times Ahead?
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2014, 05:48:12 PM »
Biblically I believe it is both of then together, and yes these are the end times toto. :)
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Re: War? Crash? Tougher Times Ahead?
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2014, 10:22:10 PM »
What concerns me is that all of these events are having less and less affect on me. I guess I am becoming numb.  :facepalm:
This is a good thing, it means you won't go off half cocked on some emotional issue.
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Re: War? Crash? Tougher Times Ahead?
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2014, 07:22:49 AM »
Good point Burt  :thumbsUp:
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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2014, 10:39:54 AM »
Or it means apathy has set in. :)  always another side to the coin.

And Gays are just another sin which did ruin this country along with all other perversions and greed that the apathetic people of "Merika" didn't care enough about to purge from their midst.

Another Biblical principle that we stopped observing a long tie ago amongst many others.  A nation founded by God will not stand when it turns from Him because of their sin or lack of action.  This has been clearly seen in my lifetime.

The Declaration of Independence laid the cornerstone of human government upon the first precepts of Christianity.
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American politics and the Bible are intertwined no matter what the revisionist would like to have you believe. You can't talk about one without the other.
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Re: War? Crash? Tougher Times Ahead?
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2014, 10:45:47 AM »
As long as the religion and the government are kept separate, and we are talking about the basic concepts of cultural norms being similar, I can agree with that.

America wasn't founded as a Christian nation, it is a nation founded by men who were mostly Christians. There is a difference.

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Re: War? Crash? Tougher Times Ahead?
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2014, 12:58:30 PM »
I don't know about that one Rah45. I really don;t want to get into a theological discussion here but you may want to do some research on the subject before you make to much of a definitive statement  ;)

Here is a good place to start:
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The crucial role of Christianity in this nation's formation is not without dispute, although as Revolutionary leader Patrick Henry said: "It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship." CARL PEARLSTON


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« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2014, 07:37:07 PM »
I don't either, and I think you misunderstand my intent. I'll clarify. Christianity supplies the backbone of our nation's founding documents, the successful parts of our national identity and culture...in short, America used to be synonymous with Christianity, and in many ways still is.

However, USMC stated (and I quote), "Gays are just another sin," something that shows where the line between the religion that is Christianity, and the liberty - guarding government that is supposed to be this republic, exists. I'm just making the point that if you are a Christian, you won't be able to hold the government responsible for allowing people who are homosexual, for instance, to do the same things that non-homosexuals do. The price of liberty for all, as long as you aren't violating someone else's rights, is that people can do things without your approval. 

This republic has been a noble experiment, but a break between the beliefs of traditional Christians and the more...ah..."liberal" elements of our society. Rome faced the same test...the test of whether a republic, or any nation, can persevere through evolving cultural norms (good or bad). We may survive this as a republic, but only if all the major parties can agree to respect their differences and leave one another's freedoms alone. Our freedom to have arms similar to the military as the Founders envisioned, their freedom to have guys marry guys (gag), etc.

I don't think we'll make it, though.

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« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2014, 10:01:00 PM »
Well written Rah45  :thumbsUp:
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War? Crash? Tougher Times Ahead?
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2014, 12:55:45 AM »
“Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they, therefore, who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure...are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments.”
— Charles Carroll (1737-1832) Founding Father and Leader from Maryland


Christians can not hold their govt accountable because they failed to participate. The 503C kept the church out of politics and we have all suffered for it.
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Re: War? Crash? Tougher Times Ahead?
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2014, 01:24:27 AM »
Yep. Like I've said to others, you can have a secular constitutional republic, or you can have a theocracy,  but I don't believe you can have both.

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« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2014, 03:51:55 AM »
I would prefer the Republic guided by the God of the Bible as our founding fathers did. 
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Re: War? Crash? Tougher Times Ahead?
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2014, 09:54:18 PM »
As a gay Muslim I find this thread offensive.  I don't want anyone taking my freedoms away.

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Re: War? Crash? Tougher Times Ahead?
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2014, 10:27:47 PM »
Funny quick story that has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with this topic.

A good friend of mine who served time over in the sandbox twice told me this story.

Although most people over in Afghanistan still live as our caveman relatives but with the internet. The intel guys use to strap on radio collection devises disguised as backpacks and walk through villages collecting intel.

Well the number one thing they would collect is goat and sheep porn. Yup you got it Muslim men having their way with sheep and goats.  ;)

Another story:

During their patrols they use to often bring the company doctor on patrol to pass out medical advise and such. One village was hit with a higher level of VD in men then an other village.

Well the doctor sought out the village chief and explained to him that none of the women that show up to his clinic have VD but 70% of the men do.

He further explained to the chief that if the men of the village were going to have sex they had to wear condoms.

The village chief told the doctor that NONE of the men were having sex with each other or with goats as it was against the Koran. The chief went on to explain to the doctor the men drank too much green tea.  :facepalm: 

I have a few other stories but I will not go in to them right now as we have women on the forum.
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« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2014, 01:20:21 AM »
JM,
I hope you are following the BRICS bank issue?  It will be the downfall of America when the global currency is replaced and we are devalued down to our actual currency value.  Thank you Q1-Qinfinity :)
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« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2014, 01:21:25 AM »
As a gay Muslim I find this thread offensive.  I don't want anyone taking my freedoms away.

Er, you better read your Koran son, you are doing it wrong. LOL
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Re: War? Crash? Tougher Times Ahead?
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2014, 01:45:50 AM »
I dunno man.  Think if he reads that thing he'll actually realize hes been doing
doing right.  ;)
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« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2014, 07:40:27 AM »
USMC0331, I am aware of it but really haven't been following it.

This would be a good new topic in General Discussion or News & Politics boards. Would you be willing to start the topic with a quick outline of what the acronym BRICS means and a few up to date articles on what is happening?

Thanks man!
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Re: War? Crash? Tougher Times Ahead?
« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2014, 03:49:58 PM »
As a gay Muslim I find this thread offensive.  I don't want anyone taking my freedoms away.

And I'm offeded as well.  I'm Jewish and his lover, so there! 

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« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2014, 03:59:17 PM »
As a gay Muslim I find this thread offensive.  I don't want anyone taking my freedoms away.

And I'm offeded as well.  I'm Jewish and his lover, so there!

Well, something bad must be coming down the line, because GAP and EJR both came back and posted!   :tinfoil:

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« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2014, 06:00:53 PM »
It's all about the goat porn I posted earlier  :trolling:
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« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2014, 06:40:51 PM »

It's all about the goat porn I posted earlier  :trolling:
Probably came up on their saved google search notification :)
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« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2014, 06:45:39 AM »
I check in every once and awhile.  But goat sex does help to get me to post.