This is the beginning.....get ready while you can.

[Skippy00004]

I'm not really looking for feedback. This is more of a "get this off my chest and get it out there" type threads. But if you have something to add after you read, I'm all ears.






So this is the beginning of a revolution.  I know it. You know it. And if you don't think it's the start of something big, then listen up.

     Most, if not everyone, on this forum has done their research, bought their preps, sorted out their thoughts and priorities, and KNOW that something is coming.  Well.....it's here.  There's been discussion about occupywallstreet's "demands," and personally, I don't think they should have published those demands.  They're naive, half baked, and make the protests as a whole look like they don't know what the hell they're doing, which is completely false. They know EXACTLY what they're doing.  They know EXACTLY what they are protesting against, and if I had to take a guess, it could probably be summed up in two words......THE SYSTEM.  It's broke.  We all know it's broke, and we all knew that sooner or later it would come "collapsing" down on top of us.  Well boys and girls, it looks like it might be sooner more than later.
     I say this because around a year and a half ago I was sitting at my computer surfing around youtube and one way or another I ended up on the L&L forums.  I can remember talking to guys about how sooooo many people were still asleep and how there needed to be something to happen to wake them all up. Well I think we all got our "wish" so to speak.  I know I did.
     Now, I'm not saying I wished for a revolution or a SHTF senario or any of that. But c'mon, I'm sick of the waiting. I'm sick of sitting in my college classes learning about my future when I know damn well that my future will not consist of anything that I'm being taught.  It will consist of an entirely new way of doing things, and an entire new system.  I'm literally planning on not even finishing college because I'm 99.9% positive that in 1 years time MAXIMUM I'll be back home jamming AR mags because I can hear heavy gunfire in the next town over.  Don't get me wrong, I WANT to finish school. I WANT to get a good job out of college. I WANT to be able to live a normal life and die happy. And I can still see that all happening.  But with the way things are going right now, that dream is becoming more and more what it really is....a dream.
     
     Now to my point.

     These protests have kicked off something fierce in the American people.  Hundreds, if not thousands, are waking up by the day all because of these protests.  That's a lot of people.  There are not as many cops as protesters by any standard, and these cops are going to have itchy trigger finger's pretty soon.   Eventually, these protests WILL turn violent.  (a massive group of people with hot headed cops.  One wrong move by the cops and these "peaceful protests" will turn into what we saw in Egypt and Libya) When that happens, say goodbye to the "Good Ol' U.S. of A." because these protests are placed in so many locations in so many cities that a wave of violence can be spread throughout the entire country in a few days.
     As of right now, we as a country (hell maybe even a world population) are sitting on a powder keg.  The fuse has been lit.  It is now up to YOU to get your preps squared away, your family up to speed, and your plan of action finalized.  Because I think that this long road of uncertainty is coming to an end.  You might say I'm being dramatic, or I'm over reacting, and I hope you're right.  But I'm just looking at this whole situation and being honest with myself.  And I'd rather be dramatic and over reacting than be caught with my pants down when this whole thing goes BOOM.

[JohnyMac]

You are not being over dramatic Skippy...Not at all.

We all would be surprised at how many folks are getting prepared, for what who knows. My biggest concern are as follows:

1) People buying guns and bullets but no food. They will use them to prey on the weak.
2) People buying a weeks supply of food and think all is well. It isn't a freaken snow storm coming it's a major collapse.
3) People thinking that the government will take care of them if there is a collapse. What government? The government is made up of your friends and neighbors. They will all be home trying to figure out how to take care of their families not protecting you.
4) And most important, my fellow preppers who I have prepared with will shit the bed and be absolutely worthless when the SHTF.

[Dave_M]

So this is the beginning of a revolution.  I know it. You know it.

Methinks you haven't looked at American history. If you think we're anywhere close to revolution you need to look back at 1968-1973 and the corresponding events in this country. Compare events then to now and report back.

I view prepping as a hedge against natural disaster, peak oil, vast economic depression, and even the smaller/personal stuff like unemployment. Sometimes when I look at posts I think people hope for a violent overthrow--let me tell you, as someone who has been in many countries both during and post-revolution: You don't want that to happen.

[Kentactic]

yep it truely may be coming... a year is a LONG time. so far this year how many other countries have had protests and brought down there system.... the anger isnt going away because the economy isnt getting any better.

[sledge]

yep it truely may be coming... a year is a LONG time. so far this year how many other countries have had protests and brought down there system.... the anger isnt going away because the economy isnt getting any better.

What you are saying is true.  Many countries are going through change of Governments.  But let me point out that no other country anywhere has the command and control that we have here in the U.S.   No other country has the battle hardened troops we have either.  Not only that but the Government has been planning since Reagan (Oly North) in case that situation should ever arise.

I don't think the people protesting on Wall Street have the intestinal fortitude or will to bring the Government down.  But they may provide Obama with an excuse to stay in power. 

[thatGuy]

I thought you were referencing that I let BackWoodBoy on the board..

[JohnyMac]

Sledge wrote:
But they may provide Obama with an excuse to stay in power. 

Ahhhhh but that is the crux of the problem. Barry will do what ever it takes to stay in power.

In the past 30 days how many times has Barry made mention to the fact that the Constitution has his hands tied? How many governors and congressmen have sent up trial balloons to that affect?

Time will tell.....

Do you realize that the one thing that has kept other countries from evading America and from dictators not raising to power is the Second Amendment to the Constitution.  If there was coordination of the citizenry it would be a tough row to hoe for anybody who tried to stop the 2012 elections.

Just food for thought.

[Ghost]

I thought you were referencing that I let BackWoodBoy on the board..

Okay, you win best post ever

[sledge]

I thought you were referencing that I let BackWoodBoy on the board..

LOL that was good.  Actually I'm surprised he's been well behaved thus far.  Maybe this young man has seasoned a little.  Welcome back BWB.

[thatGuy]

I just don't see Obama being able to prevent the election Johny, he knows he is going to lose and is losing his mind worring over it.. have you heard the reports of him wandering the halls in the White House?

[JohnyMac]

Yes I have heard of him wondering the halls in the White House AND (Sorry Michelle) eating McDonalds big Mac's while smoking cigarettes! 

Sorry I got off topic there for a minute.

This is my tin foil hat theory:

1) Barry has such a narcissistic personality I can't imagine him leaving the WH without some Chicago kicking and screaming- We all know what that means and or,
2) The puppeteers that are behind the screen need Barry to finish his role and to move the USA to a more world government position. This is the best opportunity in decades for the socialists from the '60's to advance their position (s).

To be quite frank with you, I just Don't think Barry is as dumb as some think he is. He has a plan and he is executing on that plan.

[sledge]

I just don't see Obama being able to prevent the election Johny, he knows he is going to lose and is losing his mind worring over it.. have you heard the reports of him wandering the halls in the White House?

Cornered animals are dangerous.  I agree with you that he's probably going crazy over the thought of losing.  So are the people on the far left (farther left than you)  who think they may lose the gains they've made while he was in office.  But it sure isn't stopping him from doing some major fundraising.  They aren't going to lose without a hard fought battle next year. 

I could see where if there is any shooting at any of these protests things could get crazy.  But for now it's a wait and see.

TG, my brother told me on the phone today that he isn't a Democrat, he's a "class warrior".  WTF is that? 

[JohnyMac]

Yeah Sledge- What is a class warrior?

You know, since the old '60's liberal left is orchestrating these protests maybe they will show up at the Democratic National convention at Charlotte in September of 2012? It should be interesting to watch NC State police and National Guard kick their butts out of that city.

Those southern boys don't take kindly to stinky, rich, northern folks defecating in their city and state. 

[Kentactic]

the republicans are calling the 99%ers protests class warfare... im guessing thats where he got it.

[NOLA556]

you know.. I used to feel 100% on-board with almost all of you guys, but right now I'm not feeling it.

that's not to say that I'm "smarter" than you guys, or visa versa... none of that dumb shit.

but for the first time, I feel like I'm on a completely different page from everyone else in this thread.

correct me if I'm wrong, but it almost seems like you guys are allowing this charade to DICTATE how you feel. to TELL YOU what to do... I think maybe I'm most in-line with skippy. I know it's coming. whether these occupy-clowns are the spark, or if it's something completely different. either way, it's coming. you can feel it in your bones. as much as I love Ron Paul... even IF he get's elected.... what the fuck will that solve. we all know good and well that the president doesn't pull the strings. (plus, we all know what happened to the LAST guy that tried to abolish the FED....)

I mean really guys... does it REALLY matter who wins the goddamn election? does it REALLY matter if Barry is scared shitless? does it REALLY matter if these "occupy" goons are the spark or not? the fact is that we all know it's coming, regardless what the spark may be.

I'm not saying that we shouldn't discuss all the different possibilities... this is actually a really great thread, I think. I'm just getting some shit off my chest after reading through the posts.

dudes... just keep your eyes peeled, and be ready to jam some mags. all hope for a peaceful return to Constitutional law is lost, and you know it.

[Kentactic]

Exactamundo NOLA. I wont be voting next election because theres no point. and getting caught up in Left-Right BS is how the system works....divide and conquer. in reality both choices suck, both choices are bad, both choices keep the plan in action. and the more we say "ah screw those liberal protestors" or what ever.... the more we stay divided.... united we stand divided we fall. im not saying everyone should go protest the bankers right now...but i am saying just because they are red or blue dosent make them good or bad. well...actually... representing left or right kind of makes you useless... so if they claim left or right then yeah they are part of the problem. but in the case of the 99%ers i dont think they are claiming a party...i think partys have tried claiming them to divide the group but thats about it.

[JohnyMac]

NOLA I think you are saying what we are all feeling we are all just expressing ourselves differently.

If the OWSC (Occupy Wall Street Crowed) isn't the spark that drives the collapse it will be something else- Heck it could be the Saudi Ambassador being assassinated by Iran. It could be a whole host of things loaded into the pipe line to accelerate the collapse. 

NOLA Wrote:
I love Ron Paul... even IF he get's elected.... what the fuck will that solve. we all know good and well that the president doesn't pull the strings. (plus, we all know what happened to the LAST guy that tried to abolish the FED....)

Call me naive or call me stupid however I think that our last best chance to drag ourselves out of this abyss we find our selves in is to vote out Barry and replace with a conservative president- Paul would work for me as would Cain. I also think that a conservative president will not be able to do squat without a conservative congress to back him.

What we can do in the mean time is support our choice for president and continue to prep. I know you are NOLA and my hat is off to you and your family for doing so. 

Take care....

[JohnyMac]

Kentactic wrote:
I wont be voting next election because theres no point.

That's a bummer Ken. In all due respect, I don't think anybody has a right to complain unless they used their vote. I pray that you just made that statement out of frustration.

If you have some free time read Dr. Zhivago. If you don't have any free time rent the movie. There are many parallels to Czarist Russia in the beginning of the 20th century to the USA in the 21st century. Pay particular attention to the economy, war, small student groups protesting and what happens post Russian revolution. 

[WhiskeyJack]

I dont think these OWS guys are gonna spark a revolution. I just dont see it comming from that gaggle of no real direction librals. I Do think things could get violent but not revolutionary.In order to have revolution one must have a direction and mesage. And ken please vote bro. Ive gone and writen in Mickey Mouse more times than i can count because the choises were shit to begin with. But its still a right and a duty to exercise what little powere we still have. Even if its in name only. Im not tryin to preach at ya bro. i think your a good guy and i just hope you dont toataly give up on the process cause i think thats what the 1% want us do. Stay sharp bro [url=http://www.freesmileys.or

[Colombo]

I have and will continue to vote but I also believe the system is beyond recovery and the parties offered as a "choice" can do nothing to stop what's coming. 1 to 4 asset to liability ratios don't just go away.
http://www.usdebtclock.org/

[JohnyMac]

I agree Whiskey that these OWS protests are not the beginning of the revolution; however I think this is a dress rehearsal of what is to come starting next spring and rolling up to the presidential election in November of 2012.

If you take away the bafoons and folks there just having an "ant-establishment" moment you have the hard core folks recruiting and learning. I think the anarchists and union organizers are going to come out of this stronger.

Now in the old days- BB (Before Barry), their would be the FBI and other alphabet soup departments milling amongst the participants gathering info and identifying the potential problem folks and keeping an eye on them. I wonder if Barry and Holder are holding back doing that. Just a thought to ponder.   

[STRAITJACKET]

       Could this be the start of something, sure it could. Will it develop into something as long lasting as would be needed to kick off a full blown "revolution" doubtful. That revolution you speak of was started long ago, a quiet revolution of sorts. The very college students that protested from 68-73, worked their way into political power, holding positions in both the House the Senate, and even The White House. All the while perverting our constitution, pushing their agenda from within, elected by the sleeping masses for years.  I'm not one that secretly wishes for "revolution" nor do I think the majority of the members here do either.
        To say the atmosphere isn't ripe with the stench of discontent would be an understatement, add to the fact that we have a sitting president that despises this country for what it is and wants to fundamentally change it  every chance he gets, well where does that leave you?  Revolution?, no. Not as long as the system is still in place, and the battle can be fought with the pen. Is it too late for a civil solution? Honestly, I believe that curtain is closing as well. I have small children and the last thing I want is to be off fighting some f-ed up civil war, but I wouldn't want my children growing up in a country made in the vision of these marxist asshats either.

[thekiltedpatriot]

I just don't see Obama being able to prevent the election Johny, he knows he is going to lose and is losing his mind worring over it.. have you heard the reports of him wandering the halls in the White House?

There are laws on the books that he can implement via declaring a national emergency.  All it takes is a disaster of some sort....say economic....and he can declare a national emergency; that national emergency provides him a LOT of leeway, to include martial law and suspension of elections by executive order.

This has already been proposed.  Here is the audio for those of you who haven't been paying attention:
http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/28/new-audio-nc-governor-struck-serious-tone-on-suspending-congressional-elections/

BTW, this ability is not just for Obama, but any US President can implement such tactics.  Bottom line is that all it takes is a false flag event large enough; another 9/11 or a second great depression are two examples.

[Kentactic]

Kentactic wrote:
I wont be voting next election because theres no point.

That's a bummer Ken. In all due respect, I don't think anybody has a right to complain unless they used their vote. I pray that you just made that statement out of frustration.

Nah it wasnt out of frustration. i feel ive got a right to complain because no matter who i vote for i get the same outcome. im complaining about every candidate there is. so voting for ron paul and bitching if obama wins isnt the case... no matter who i vote for id be bitching even if my choice got into office. if anything a person who votes a guy into office cant really bitch about there selection because they put them into office... im keeping my bitching options open to all candidates.. lol

[Kentactic]

ken please vote bro. Ive gone and writen in Mickey Mouse more times than i can count because the choises were shit to begin with. But its still a right and a duty to exercise what little powere we still have. Even if its in name only. Im not tryin to preach at ya bro. i think your a good guy and i just hope you dont toataly give up on the process cause i think thats what the 1% want us do. Stay sharp bro

yeah perhaps im playing right into there hand by not voting who knows... but cant my selection not to vote be considered my vote indeed ? same as the people who pick off the wall candidates... instead of intentional grounding of the football im just taking a knee at the snap. both have the same outcome.