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Title: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: JohnyMac on October 29, 2012, 08:38:15 AM
Well now?It?s just past high tide here and this picture was taken from our living room looking west.

(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k487/John_McEwing/Fun%20Stuff/Sandy10_29_120800hrs.jpg)

Wind out of the east at a steady 25 Knts. The water is about 1 foot from coming over our dock and then another 18 inches before it comes up to the bottom of our floor to ceiling windows.

Yesterday I put up a tarp against the window then screwed sheets of 4x8' plywood turned on its side.

The cats are going CRAZY and they were too agitated to even eat breakfast! One of the cats Emma, keeps running up to me and growling and then runs away. 

Oh well the next high tide will be at 8:30PM tonight and is about 1 foot higher than this morning?s. Hopefully with the wind out of the east it should blow some of the surge away from the house. We will see?.

Good luck to friends and family south along the Maryland, New Jersey and New York coasts.

More updates later.  :))


Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: thatGuy on October 29, 2012, 11:12:34 AM
Have you started carrying stuff up to the attic?
Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: mountainredneck2051 on October 29, 2012, 11:52:54 AM
good luck brother
Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: EJR914 on October 29, 2012, 12:45:43 PM
Best of luck, to NY and DC, hope it gives them Hell.
Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: crudos on October 29, 2012, 01:29:21 PM
Take care JM! Hope everything inside stays dry and the cats calm down a bit.
Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: JohnyMac on October 29, 2012, 02:39:21 PM
Thanks guys!

My wife just told me to go buy some wine. I explained to her we have wine (I am the only one who drinks adult beverages in this household) however I got the 'stare' so I went. I also picked up some heavy cream for the baked apples I am going to make tonight.

I didn't drive directly to or back from the liquor store; I drove around a little bit. Here is a short report:

> There was very few people out on the road
> There was a steady breeze of about 25 knots with gusts to maybe 35 knots. That is a guest O' mate and only based on my
    F150 getting blown around a bit during the gusts.
> I ran into two guys just outside our library which is the highest part of our town; with brown Kevlar helmets and vests on? Yes
   they did have ammo pouches on their vests and had side arms but no long guns were visible. Mmmmmm??? I have never seen
   that before.


At the home front:

> Low tide now but expected to be about 2' over high tide I reported on this AM. Tide + surge will be at about 2030 hrs
> At 1800 hrs yesterday the barometer reading was 1012 mb now at this writing it is 993 mb. To give you and idea the great
    hurricane the barometer bottomed out at 940 mb
> At 1800 hrs last evening the fire department came by and told Karen and I that there was a mandatory evacuation and their 
   was a shelter set up at the high school. My wife asked if we could bring our cats and he said, "no." So I guess we are hanging
   :-)) 
> Told my wife that the 'drop dead time' for us leaving and going to my Mom's on Cape Cod is 1600 hrs as MA. is supposed to
    close the bridges to the Cape at 1800 hrs due to wind.
> We have had two power outs since this AM however the juice came back on within a few minutes.

So there you go...  :))
   

Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: EJR914 on October 29, 2012, 03:41:07 PM
Do ya'll have one of those STATE Emergency provisions, JM?
Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: v0dka on October 29, 2012, 04:06:01 PM
well nothing really is happening here execpt rain and some winds.
I have to go into a small city tonight hopefully nothing will happen.
Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: Colombo on October 29, 2012, 04:36:29 PM
If your on the water keep an eye on the tidal movements as they can be an indicator of a stacking effect due to both the onshore wind at the coast and low pressure.

If the water doesn't drop significantly at low tide I'd expect the next high tide to be even higher.
Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: thatGuy on October 29, 2012, 07:14:48 PM
It's an hour and a half to high tide and JMac has 3" of water in his house. I just got the message that he and his family are safe and riding it out.

My thoughts and prayers are with him tonight.
Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: crudos on October 30, 2012, 09:07:44 AM
Any update on JM? Looks like a big old mess out there.
Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: JohnyMac on October 30, 2012, 09:39:41 AM
Thank you gents for your kind comments and best wishes and to you TG for posting my text.

We just sat down to our first cup of coffee of the day. Its the best cup O' joe I have had in awhile :)) No electricity so this update will be short.

The Sakonnet has receded and along with it, the 6" (the final tally) of water sitting in the house. My wife is fine but with a bit of an attitude.  :))

I suggested to my wife that I should take her to the BOL today but she has turned down that suggestion as she has a Dr.'s appointment tomorrow which she has been waiting a month for and than another one on Thursday; plus the election on the 6th.

My mom on Cape Cod called and offered for us to stay there but my wife mouthed to me while on the phone with Mom, "No way!"  :)) I ain't pushing that one.  ;)

Last, we feel so lucky that we only had a few inches of water in our house compared to what happened to others along the coast. No bitchen from me...Heck we needed a new carpet and furniture anyhow.  [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co

Have a good day...

 

 
Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: hjmoosejaw on October 30, 2012, 11:34:15 AM
Sorry to hear about your misfortune JM. Sounds like it's starting to get better. Hang in there buddy!
Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: crudos on October 30, 2012, 11:40:43 AM
Thank you gents for your kind comments and best wishes and to you TG for posting my text.

We just sat down to our first cup of coffee of the day. Its the best cup O' joe I have had in awhile :)) No electricity so this update will be short.

The Sakonnet has receded and along with it, the 6" (the final tally) of water sitting in the house. My wife is fine but with a bit of an attitude.  :))

I suggested to my wife that I should take her to the BOL today but she has turned down that suggestion as she has a Dr.'s appointment tomorrow which she has been waiting a month for and than another one on Thursday; plus the election on the 6th.

My mom on Cape Cod called and offered for us to stay there but my wife mouthed to me while on the phone with Mom, "No way!"  :)) I ain't pushing that one.  ;)

Last, we feel so lucky that we only had a few inches of water in our house compared to what happened to others along the coast. No bitchen from me...Heck we needed a new carpet and furniture anyhow.

Have a good day...
Thanks for the update JM. Finally going to get rid of the orange shag carpet from the 70's then? hehe  ;)
Stay safe.
Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: thatGuy on October 30, 2012, 08:02:51 PM
Thanks for the update John, I was a little worried never having been in a 'perfect storm.'
 
Sounds like you'll be just fine though.
Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: JohnyMac on October 30, 2012, 09:26:13 PM
LOL Crudos 
Well the kitchen is water free and clean. Used a heavy dose of bleach gto keep mold to a minimum.

Someone down the street is in Denmark so my next door neighbor used his generator with his permission via text. Just supplying juice to our frides and freezers as we have no electricity yet.

I have been supplying gas from my preps and I will probably drain the tank on the gen when we are done. While filling it it has been raining like all get out so I am sure there has been some H20 to go into the gen while filling.

Called National Flood Ins (FEMA) today as we have a hefty ins policy with them. They told me to NOT CLEAN up till an adjuster contracts me - 24 to 48 hours; so we didn't go to the BOL today as explained earlier.

Biggest issues:

> My wife's attitude. She is really bummed and lethargic. I sent her out for pizza around 1700 hrs and she came back with a
    little better attitude. Over dinner I had a discussion of "Embracing the Suck." Just before I signed on she asked me what I
    would like her to do tomorrow. She is coming along  http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
> I don't know why however I had several heads of family's throw me their house keys and asked that I keep an eye on their
   house. So I have been making rounds till now. My wife asked me to stay home for awhile. I just set my alarm to make the
   rounds at 0300 hrs. I guess I will put gas in the gen and then just check the local houses. My wife is afraid I will be shot by
   someone.  [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
> The flip-pen crank radio is a pain in the neck! Thirty cranks = 30 minutes. Man O' man all of my rechargeable batteries and
   Grundig radio is at the BOL!!!
> The Aladdin lamps are freaken awesome! We have had serious light with no issues. Yup they are pricy but damn they are
    bright! We use them at the BOL and thankfully I had not moved them all there.
> The cats are O-Kay but we at times forget the needs of our furry friends. I woke up at 0300 or so and asked myself, "What
    about Max & Emma? Did they have food...Fresh water? In all of the excitement I was worried we forgot about them. I went
    downstairs and there was dry food and water. I changed the water and than woke my wife up asking whether she had
    changed the food and water. Well she had so no worries...Just saying.

Battery running low, got to go... [url=http://www.freesmileys.or

     (http://www.smileyvault.co
> When you have two residences, you need to have a complete inventory at both, e.g. Batteries, gas, a generator, 12/3
    extension cords, etc. I basically have gas so I traded it for a electric line to my fridge & freezer from a neighbor BUT all of my
    extension cords are at the BOL. Stupid mistake  [img)
Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: sledge on October 30, 2012, 11:28:44 PM
Take care up there JM.  I'm praying that everything stays good up there for you and your wife.  At least I know that if your house floats out to sea that you are an experienced world sailor.  Throw up some bed sheets for sails and make the best of it.  Take care.
Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: EJR914 on October 31, 2012, 08:48:40 AM
Thanks for the update, JM, its great to see a real life WROL and the mental stress it puts on people.  I think my wife will be similar.  Not mentally tough at all.
Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: JohnyMac on October 31, 2012, 09:55:36 AM
Quote
Sledge wrote:
At least I know that if your house floats out to sea that you are an experienced world sailor.  Throw up some bed sheets for sails and make the best of it.  Take care.

You a funny man!  :)) Yeah well you better watch out as we might sail her down to Vero Beach!

Electricity back on. All looks good but will have to switch out some outlets. They were low enough that salt water got inside.

I will have to have the gas burner company come out and check out the burner.

No land line so I am using a 'hot spot' that is part of my Verizon phone plan. Called the phone company and after a frustrating discussion with a computer, with an annoying British accent, the computer determined that my land line was not working.  They are coming out Monday to check it out.

Just waiting for the Ins Adjuster to call me back. With the devastation on Long Island, NYC and NJ I am pretty happy with the Monday date.

Last, well the house smells like old carpet and salt water. My wife wants me to 'water vac' it then cut it up and get it out of the house. Well we will see.  :))

Take care...

Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: sledge on October 31, 2012, 02:07:44 PM
Quote
Sledge wrote:
At least I know that if your house floats out to sea that you are an experienced world sailor.  Throw up some bed sheets for sails and make the best of it.  Take care.

You a funny man!  :)) Yeah well you better watch out as we might sail her down to Vero Beach!


 :)  Bring her on down JM. 
Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: JohnyMac on November 01, 2012, 10:45:32 AM
Just a quick update on our plight:

> Went to Town Hall yesterday to find out what we should do with the growing trash pile. The toens administrator told me to hang
    onto it as he wants to inventory ALL of the trash before it goes to the town dump. The reason is he wants to submit a bill to
    FEMA for accepting the trash. I asked him how long that will be and he told me. "Only 2-3 weeks."

    Well we can't put outside all of the bags of trash because the raccoons will get in it.
> Tried to do a load of wash yesterday. The washer was working great until smoke started to stream out of the back of it. I
    checked out our dryer and apparently salt water had come up the venting pioe into the dryer. So both my dryer & washer are
    toast.
> Our furnace guy is coming out this AM to bless or tell my my burner is toast. Either way it will cost me $99- to get that verdict.
> National Flood Insurance has not called me back yet. When i called Tuesday I was assured I would get a call from an adjuster
   within 24-48 hrs. At the time I thought, yeah right. The gentleman at NFI told me NOT TO START cleaning up. Only the adjuster
   could give me the go ahead to do so.

   So we are sitting here with 6 or seven trash bags filled with soiling food and a wet carpet which covers 75% of our first floor. My
   asthma is kicking in. So after we vote on Tuesday, I am taking Karen and the cats up to the BOL.

Soon as I am done typing I am going to go to the Department of Public Works to talk trash.  :))

Take care guys...All good here.  [url=http://www.freesmileys.or
   
Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: crudos on November 01, 2012, 11:04:36 AM
Hang in there JM and wife! Vote early (if you state allows it) and get to the BOL and dry out for a bit.
Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: thatGuy on November 01, 2012, 12:31:14 PM
I am going to second crudos' "hang in there," the folks at NFI and FEMA are up to their eyeballs in pissed off Yankies.

Just another example of too much goverment still not being enough.
Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: Outonowhere on November 01, 2012, 07:24:39 PM
I am going to second crudos' "hang in there," the folks at NFI and FEMA are up to their eyeballs in pissed off Yankies.

Just another example of too much goverment still not being enough.


 [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: JohnyMac on November 02, 2012, 09:20:31 AM
Friday November 2, 2012 update...

I am only giving these updates to fill you in on our journey. Hopefully you might learn some things from our successes and failures.

> Well yesterday I became the squeaky wheel. I went back to the Town Administrator and annoyed him for 10 minutes or so then
   went to the head of DPW and hassled his administrative assistant as he was home recovering from knee surgery. Called the
   Chairman of our town council and last called mu US Representative Cicilline. At about noon I got a call from our fire Chief who
   asked me to "Stand down." He told me that he and a crew of FEMA folks were going to come by later this afternoon.

    They did come, all four of them and in reality they were there not to help the neighborhood but to see if their was enough of a
    mess so the town could declare an emergency and back-bill FEMA.

> Recalled NFI and asked when an adjuster was going to call me. The polite lady told me in 7-14 days. Well I decided I
   needed to move forward with getting things right. The goberment will come when they come.

> Carpet guy is coming buy Monday to measure for new carpet and clean-up. Today, my wife is going his shop to pick out new
    carpet.

> Furnace guy came and told me that my boiler is toast and I need a new one - It will cost $3,300-. I told him to go for it as
   it is getting chilly here. Thank heavens for my Jotul wood stove. That is what we are using. Thank heavens I had fire wood left
   over from last year's winter.

> Don't know if I mentioned this in another post. I was doing a load of wash Wednesday night when smoke started pouring out
   of the washer. Also, my dryer is toast as the Sakonnet River found it's way up the vent hose. TG suggested yesterday a clothes
   line for drying. Several buckets and a toilet bowel plunger in lieu of an electric washer.  :)) The funny thing is we are set up for
   exactly this set-up at the BOL. Not doing me any good here  [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at

> Taking trash to the dump today.

> Vac dried our living and dining room yesterday. Planning on cleaning out the den and vac drying it today.

> My wife visited a neurosurgeon on Wednesday concerning her back. He told her that she Lumbosac Spundyosis, arthritis
   along her spine and if that wasn't enough, a tumor on her spine. She went to her regular back doctor yesterday who told
   her the neurosurgeon and her regular back doctor are very concerned and she will have to have a back operation sooner
   then later. She is having a slew of tests between now and Monday. She also was given another appointment for another
   neurosurgeon for Nov 14th as surgeon 1 wants a second opinion from surgeon 2.

   This has nothing to do with the aftermath of Sandy I just thought I would let you know we are dealing with this too. 

Caio for now...     
Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: hjmoosejaw on November 02, 2012, 09:46:23 AM
JM, my thoughts and prayers are with you and the Mrs.
Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: crudos on November 02, 2012, 12:44:46 PM
Thanks for the update JM. Glad you have the resources to go ahead and get things fixed, instead of waiting for Insurance and or FEMA to splash the cash. Thoughts and prayers for you and your wife in this difficult time.
Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: thatGuy on November 02, 2012, 02:15:01 PM
I forgot to mention that if you put a broom handle in that plunger (the thread is the same pitch) you can wash what standing!

I said it in your other post but have no reservations about saying it again. God bless you John, may he look over you and yours in the coming days and weeks.
Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: JohnyMac on November 22, 2012, 10:54:47 AM
UPDATE

Well Karen and I arrived at the BOL last evening at about 1800. I gave a heads up to the farmer across the way that we were coming and we were greeted with a warm cabin as he started the wood stove earlier in the day.

The traffic was horrendous and what should have taken 5 hours took about 6 1/2. To make it worse, the truck was packed, inside and out and the cats meowed the whole time!

We are going to be living at the BOL for the next 3-4 months due to the contractor kicking us out of our damaged house while he does what needs to get done to make it habitual. The list is long and here is a partial of what needs to get done...

> Industrial engineer has to inspect house to make sure it is sound as it shifted by the surge
> If all is good structurally the carpet has to come out as well as the subfloor
> All of our kitchen and bathroom cabinetry has to be torn out. Apparently our cabinetry is fiberboard and has wicked up the
   salt water
> All sheet rock    4' off the floor has to be torn out along with the insulation
> A hazmat crew has to come in and clean and dry out the wall studs. Once that is done they will spray a solution to retard
    mildew
> Rewire the first floor so out lets will now be 24-30" higher
> Our new furnace was installed this past Monday but they installed it on a wet floor. Our contractor went ape shit when he
    found out and was going to bring back the furnace guys to pull it (He will then lay a new floor) and reinstall it. Again he was
    incensed that they didn't point this out to me before they installed it. He assured me it would not cost me any additional
    money
> The head floor has to come up and be re-tiled

...the list goes on and on however those are the high-lights.

The good news is that deer season starts Monday here in PA. I typically don't hunt the first week (Center fire rifle season is two weeks long here) but will be able to now hunt both weeks.  [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co

Laying in bed this morning my wife and I were recounting all of the Thanksgiving's we have spent together. From enjoying the day swinging at anchor with friends to the death of my father in-law the day before Thanksgiving in '08. We then finished going down memory lane by thanking God for our good fortune in having our health, good friends, a family that for the most part, does not argue over small stuff and a comfy cabin to call our own.
 
So there you go...
 
Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: hjmoosejaw on November 22, 2012, 11:31:24 AM
Good to hear things are going okay JM. Since you have so much time at the cabin, it would be a good time to toy with the BOL, and improve or review things. Get some good WROL practice time in.
Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: thatGuy on November 22, 2012, 12:22:01 PM
Yeah buddy, I knew it was worse than that when you told me you had water in the house..

Primitive finishes stand the test of time much better than the modern. If you had caulked hardwood floors and wainscoat you could have opened the doors and let it flow though.

So if NFI is going to replace the cabinets can you throw some extra on it and get real wood cases?
Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: JohnyMac on November 22, 2012, 08:38:01 PM
Yeah hj you are right. Even though all of the wire has been pulled for 110 I guess I have no excuse now to NOT hook up the outlets and set up the mater panel. But then again deer season starts Monday  ;)

TG- My wife and I were talking about just that (TG-"So if NFI is going to replace the cabinets can you throw some extra on it and get real wood cases?") on our drive up here yesterday. We also talked about selling the house once it was 100% before the housing market takes another dump.

My gut is 'telling me' to put it on the market; ask for a high end price on the house and if it sells great if it doesn't no harm no fowl.

We will see...Too much emotion involved right now.  [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at

Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: hjmoosejaw on November 22, 2012, 09:37:34 PM
Well Yeah, you can't do anything during deer season. That's sacrilegious.
Title: Re: Sandy in Rhode Island Update 0830 Hrs 10_29_2012
Post by: JohnyMac on November 23, 2012, 09:28:43 AM
 [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co EXACTLY! Right on hj!