Here's the thing guys.. I hope you and everyone else affected can learn from this.
I know everyone wants to support the little guy business and especially those that
are also part of our community. But in this case guys, google could have saved you
some serious trouble.
The threads are now archived but a search for RAR guns before all these issues, yielded
some interesting results. There were several threads on M4carbine and ARF basically
looking at the quality and poor execution of the RAR guns. There was NOTHING good to be said
about them. There were threads pointing out the mistakes of his builds from photos he
proudly displayed... literally. Incorrectly installed parts on product photos he had on his
website and on forums. He was literally laughed off several forums.
There were sooooo many red flags all along the way leading up to him ripping people off.
Look at this:
We are very proud and privileged to have built rifles for the ARMY Special Forces, Marines,
US Navy SEALS, ICE, FBI and multiple law enforcement agencies around the country
No, No, No, No, No... Guys, if this were true, there would be a public record of it. There isn't.
You can find that data. You can see who holds what contract and who buys from who.
He ain't one of 'em.
The "sidewinder" that thing was fucking STUPID!
Mapped out and designed by a kid wearing a helmet and coloring outside the lines
of his coloring book. That right there, was a sign from God himself!
Here's another gem:
Each is built by hand to exacting standards. Every part is inspected before and after
it is installed. We chamber each rifle in 5.56 NATO with military head spacing. We polish the
chamber and custom grind our own exclusive M4 style feed ramps for a more positive feed.
Hell no! LOL. I remember him talking about cutting in feed ramps with a Dremel tool.
Whoa... Easy buddy, Mills and lathes...he didn't own any. A Dremel? WOW!
What did he chamber with? A drill?
More gems:
The RAR Guns M413 is the closest you can get to a real M4 without needing a special license.
You mean a tax stamp?
This is a true mil-spec rifle made from the same parts used by SOCOM, US
Army, US Navy, US Air Force, US Marine Corps and
other government agencies and bureaus.
No, you haven't sold shit to anyone but unsuspecting buyers. Your rifles aren't
ANYWHERE near mil-spec either!
Specifications:
R.A.R. Forged Match Grade Upper with Forward Assist
R.A.R. Forged Match Grade Lower
Wilson Arms or Green Mountain 16.0" Barrel -NOT MIL-SPEC
M4 Hand Guard with Heat Shields
M4 Six Position Collapsible Stock with Sling Attachment
YHM Flip Up Front Sight/ Gas Block
A2 Flash Hider
M4 Battle Grip
5.56 NATO Chamber Polished and Military Head Spaced - HACK JOB
Custom Cut "Never Jam"M4 Style Feed Ramps - HACK JOB
You guys realize that WA and GM
are some of the same people Delton spec their parts from right?
You guys realize that you are not only just buying pieced together
Delton kits for more than they would have cost you...You're buying
Dremeled on Deltons!!!
I know, I know, my frugal minded, prepper friends.
His prices. THAT is what got you! Your need to buy cheap.
You ignored those red flags and didn't make an informed decision.
Worse yet, your bright and shining star, Mr.-I walk like shaggy from Scooby-Doo,
Have weak philosophies and ramble on about nonsense I know nothing about...AKA Mr.L&L,
endorsed RAR Guns and you thought it was cool!
Please, learn from this.
I'm tired, so I'll go over in another post, how to spot and what a true Mil-Spec rifle is.
I'll also give you my experiences working with ARs specifically. When you see 100 crappy
ARs made by the same manufacturer, not to spec and poor or poor craftsmanship, it's called a clue.
I'll share it with you.
Do your homework guys!!! This was super obvious scam material.
Sorry for the rant, but it needed to be said!