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Offline DMCakhunter

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Calcium Carbide Lights/Lamps
« on: December 11, 2015, 11:36:05 AM »
Has anyone worked with these before?
Been thinking about trying one or two to see how it works, how long they last.
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Re: Calcium Carbide Lights/Lamps
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2015, 11:42:42 AM »
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Re: Calcium Carbide Lights/Lamps
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2015, 09:29:11 PM »
Seems I remember that carbide sticks were what used to generate the light in the movie theater projectors and such like that.  Bright as can be IIRC.

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Re: Calcium Carbide Lights/Lamps
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2015, 11:10:19 AM »
https://www.lehmans.com/c-31-carbide-lamp.aspx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y8hVoSUUeA

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR11.TRC2.A0.H0.Xcarbide+lamps.TRS0&_nkw=carbide+lamps&_sacat=0

might have some potential, as long as you have some carbide to go with them.

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Re: Calcium Carbide Lights/Lamps
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2015, 09:46:24 AM »
a rather long time ago is used to be a caver (spelunker, potholer).  The university i was attending had mining and speleology majors (and clubs).  these lamps were commonly used as a light source in the local caves - limestone mostly - so methane pockets weren't a grave concern.  they use a chemical reaction with water to make a Constable gas.  In a cave - wet almost all the time and full of mud - battery operated flashlights were too fragile and prone to failure.  if you had to pass a water or mud pocket, you just moved through it and relit the lamp on the other side.  the light is bright and the lamp will strike when wet.  You do need to refill it from time to time.  the calcium carbide is granular and not liquid like kerosene.  it will store a very long time if not exposed to moisture.  There are only a couple of moving parts.

the carbide lamps work and are reliable but would no longer be my first choice.
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the calcium carbide must be kept away from water until ready to use.  even a cracked casing can let humidity in and then the expanding gas can widen the crack.  the gas is combustible and explosive like hydrogen or methane. the flame is very hot (could be good or bad) and mostly smokeless.

the modern LED flashlights (torches) are reliable (waterproof/crushproof) and use lithium batteries that last a long time. -to be fair, lithium batteries have to be kept dry too and the LED electronics is susceptible to EMP.  if you can recharge the batteries, it tips the scales in favor of the LED version for me.

i've used both and that's my 2 cents worth.

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Re: Calcium Carbide Lights/Lamps
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2015, 10:03:39 AM »
a rather long time ago is used to be a caver (spelunker, potholer).  you just moved through it and relit the lamp on the other side.  the light is bright and the lamp will strike when wet.

  You do need to refill it from time to time.  the calcium carbide is granular and not liquid like kerosene.  it will store a very long time if not exposed to moisture.  There are only a couple of moving parts.

the carbide lamps work and are reliable but would no longer be my first choice.
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the calcium carbide must be kept away from water until ready to use.  even a cracked casing can let humidity in and then the expanding gas can widen the crack.  the gas is combustible and explosive like hydrogen or methane. the flame is very hot (could be good or bad) and mostly smokeless.

the modern LED flashlights (torches) are reliable (waterproof/crushproof) and use lithium batteries that last a long time. -to be fair, lithium batteries have to be kept dry too and the LED electronics is susceptible to EMP.  if you can recharge the batteries, it tips the scales in favor of the LED version for me.

i've used both and that's my 2 cents worth.
HHMMM some of that CC might be a good thing to get.  A bit and a drop with a spark equals good fire it appears.
Sure seems to me a can to 5 would be good things to put in the closet.  A couple good moisture absorbers inside a vacuum sealing for each can?  Methinks I should get a can or five or a case or 3.

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Re: Calcium Carbide Lights/Lamps
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2015, 03:52:26 PM »
I love old fashion tech, it works. While I agree that there are some better options in the modern world I still like having some redundancy especially if it provides an opportunity to play with something neat!

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Re: Calcium Carbide Lights/Lamps
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2015, 05:01:57 PM »
Thanks everyone. I have a couple vintage hand lamps and one new cap lamp coming tp play with.

 thatguy- I agree and that is why I am looking at these. Now I need to find a vintage table lamp, like in the video.
EMP proof and the carbide has no shelf life.

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Re: Calcium Carbide Lights/Lamps
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2015, 10:18:34 AM »
After spending the weekend with a new cap lamp and an older hand lamp, I think I am better served by candles. Don't get me wrong, the lamps work but there is a fair amount of maintenance to them and they do not tolerate much of a breeze, although they relight easily.
Next project will be making candles in mason jars with handles.

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Re: Calcium Carbide Lights/Lamps
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2015, 12:34:50 AM »
For real?