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Title: In the military? Wanna do the right thing? Prepare to be detained...
Post by: RS762 on February 19, 2012, 02:09:20 PM
Bradley Manning made an example of by the Obama administration? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmI4y4FXIdw#)

Slight update on the Bradley Manning case.
Title: Re: In the military? Wanna do the right thing? Prepare to be detained...
Post by: Crow on February 23, 2012, 06:54:54 PM
Im in the military.the first thing your taught as a day one private is the fucking chain of command if he found something he didn't like he should have used it.he as a soldier has multiple ways of reporting such things and probably had atleast 30 briefings his sorry ass probably slept through.leaking classified information regardless of its actual contents from the siprnet onto a public forum demeans the integrity of security of morale and gives every other pos that had to do one too many pushups or flutter kicks some great idea to leak something then some other guy does it next thing we know our enemy is more informed than our squad leaders and plt sgts.all because some fucking retard pos cannot uphold an oath he gave not only to his country but more importantly his battle buddies.if you aren't in the military or you havent been overseas donot talk shit. This dude who does not deserve the honor of calling himself a soldier for some reason is still being referred to as pfc. He knew what he did was punishable by ucmj and islucky thatthe military actually kinda stuck to it. Now before I start getting bashed because some of you guys 4 some reason actually sympathize 4 this piece of trash all I am saying is this guy went about it the wrong way by putting military documents onto a public forum and he is or has suffered the consequences for his actions.
Title: Re: In the military? Wanna do the right thing? Prepare to be detained...
Post by: sledge on February 23, 2012, 07:37:17 PM
You won't get any bashing from me.  That little fagot is a piece of shit.  He made comments all along that should have cost him his clearance  and were overlooked because of PC bullshit.  Obama was gung ho on filling the military with gays so this guy went untouched.  The same with the shooter on the base in Texas.  PC bullshit even though he had made comments that should have gotten him bounced from the service.  He wasn't touched because Obama and his PC bullshit love for Muslims whether they are extremists of not. 

So if you want to look at it, both things can be traced back to the Obummer's bullshit.

Oh yeah.  Another great idea he has started pushing is to arm the Syrian rebels.  You know, the Al Qaeda guys like we did in Libya.  Unbelievable, we fight them in one country and arm them in another.  I say we just let them kill each other.

Please don't anyone say Obama killed Osama.  More of his fricking BS. 
Title: Re: In the military? Wanna do the right thing? Prepare to be detained...
Post by: Crow on February 23, 2012, 07:49:32 PM
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You won't get any bashing from me.  That little fagot is a piece of shit.  He made comments all along that should have cost him his clearance  and were overlooked because of PC bullshit.  Obama was gung ho on filling the military with gays so this guy went untouched.  The same with the shooter on the base in Texas.  PC bullshit even though he had made comments that should have gotten him bounced from the service.  He wasn't touched because Obama and his PC bullshit love for Muslims whether they are extremists of not. 

So if you want to look at it, both things can be traced back to the Obummer's bullshit.

Oh yeah.  Another great idea he has started pushing is to arm the Syrian rebels.  You know, the Al Qaeda guys like we did in Libya.  Unbelievable, we fight them in one country and arm them in another.  I say we just let them kill each other.

Please don't anyone say Obama killed Osama.  More of his fricking BS.
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Title: Re: In the military? Wanna do the right thing? Prepare to be detained...
Post by: thatGuy on February 23, 2012, 08:27:46 PM
Hot Damn! Look at the teeth on Sledge! I expected that from someone like Crow, Reaver or UnBroken but fuck me, no you Sledge.

Is it wrong that I got kinda hot reading this thread?
Title: Re: In the military? Wanna do the right thing? Prepare to be detained...
Post by: sledge on February 23, 2012, 08:50:24 PM
Hot Damn! Look at the teeth on Sledge! I expected that from someone like Crow, Reaver or UnBroken but fuck me, no you Sledge.

Is it wrong that I got kinda hot reading this thread?

On the first part.  When you start mixing together things that I don't like, in this case traitors and Obummer, it tends to lite me up.

On the second part.  I'm on to you.  You seem to get a degree of pleasure out of saying things that you know will make me feel uncomfortable.  LOL! 
Title: Re: In the military? Wanna do the right thing? Prepare to be detained...
Post by: Reaver on February 23, 2012, 08:50:48 PM
Whats this about fucking TG

I'm in..... any one thinking Train?


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Title: Re: In the military? Wanna do the right thing? Prepare to be detained...
Post by: Crow on February 23, 2012, 10:51:14 PM
Lmao... you know when threads just get deleted and everyone wonders where it went? this should be 1 of those threads. :)
Title: Re: In the military? Wanna do the right thing? Prepare to be detained...
Post by: RS762 on February 23, 2012, 10:56:53 PM
wow.
Title: Re: In the military? Wanna do the right thing? Prepare to be detained...
Post by: hjmoosejaw on February 24, 2012, 12:36:51 AM
I'm with ya Crow and Sledge. You take an oath you hold to it. I have no tolerance for leaking any info. Whether you agree with it or not. And as for Obama, they made such a big deal over him giving the order to get Bin Laden. Big deal. Who in the hell wouldn't have given the order. Besides maybe Clinton. 
Title: Re: In the military? Wanna do the right thing? Prepare to be detained...
Post by: RS762 on February 24, 2012, 01:27:53 AM
Yeah, the SS took oaths too, all soldiers do.
Doesn't mean they are right to stand by them.

Fuck this nationalist bullshit. I don't understand it at fucking all, it's like a goddamn cult that instead of worshipping an abstract "sky god" you worship the state. Fuck the government, fuck it's silly oaths, and fuck indefinite detention.

Im done.
Title: Re: In the military? Wanna do the right thing? Prepare to be detained...
Post by: hjmoosejaw on February 24, 2012, 01:58:26 AM
Doesn't matter if it's the SS or the U.S. Government or whatever. If a man is entrusted with something and accepts that trust or gives his word on something, he keeps it. If he doesn't agree, then he never had to accept it in the first place. No one forced him.
Title: Re: In the military? Wanna do the right thing? Prepare to be detained...
Post by: RS762 on February 24, 2012, 01:59:32 AM
Lmao... you know when threads just get deleted and everyone wonders where it went? this should be 1 of those threads. :)

Fine.
Fucking delete it because you disagree.
Your buddy sledge is a mod so he'll probably do it soon.

Title: Re: In the military? Wanna do the right thing? Prepare to be detained...
Post by: RS762 on February 24, 2012, 02:20:22 AM
Doesn't matter if it's the SS or the U.S. Government or whatever. If a man is entrusted with something and accepts that trust or gives his word on something, he keeps it. If he doesn't agree, then he never had to accept it in the first place. No one forced him.

Im sorry but "no snitching" is a little different when we are talking about 100,000+ civilian deaths caused by an Invasion based on a fucking lie. With an additional 13,000 civilian deaths admitted by the papers manning released.

But hey, i guess he's just a "little fagot piece of shit". Fuck those 113,000+ dead iraqis, they deserved to die for living under Saddam's rule and worshipping satan (allah), right boys? After all, worshipping that masonic dishrag you call an american flag is far more important than the exposing the meaningless deaths of tens of thousands of innocent people caused by pointless wars of aggression.

I don't know how you guys think and I don't want to know, because the constant advocation of the murder of foreigners scares the ever-loving shit out of me because who's next? What if Arkansas rebelled against federal occupation? What if someone leaked documents of tens of thousands of american civilians were being killed? would that person also be a "fagot piece of shit" for "betraying his battle buddies"?

How many US soldiers have been killed as a direct result of the "intelligence" that Manning leaked?
Can you tell me?
Because i bet you fucking can't.

Title: Re: In the military? Wanna do the right thing? Prepare to be detained...
Post by: Outonowhere on February 24, 2012, 09:00:32 AM
Thank you RS, My feelings on the matter are pretty much in line with yours.

You boast your patriotism and pride for the Republic as it was wanting to "kick the bums out" in other threads.  Now I'm not questioning these feelings but RS is right, the Nazi's all swore oaths too.  Are the Nazi's who betrayed their country to help end the holocaust and the empirical expansion of the Third Reich "little faggot piece's of shit"?  What about the Russians that during the cold war worked to help the US, which in balance helped prevent a Nukageddon?  And as our country becomes (like it isn't already) an empirical beast hungering for more, would you stand up if you see people who you thought were "on your side" or like minded making the comments you all are about  a person who took actions you were considering?   Each of you ask yourself this question.  If you had undeniable proof of the murder of thousands and thousands of people, would you sit quietly and let it be?  Or if you had proof that thousands of AMERICAN lives were in imminent danger from within, would you just try to protect your own and be quiet?

Now I don't know all the facts and I don't know the man myself.  But we are getting to the point that ugly shit (not talking violence) has to happen.  We all (hopefully) know that the emperor has no clothes so there's no reason to tar and feather the one who points that out.
Title: Re: In the military? Wanna do the right thing? Prepare to be detained...
Post by: sledge on February 24, 2012, 09:01:43 AM

Fine.
Fucking delete it because you disagree.
Your buddy sledge is a mod so he'll probably do it soon.

I'm not going to delete what you say just because I disagree with you.  You have the right to say what you think.  We've disagreed on several issues.  Have I ever deleted anything you said? 

I will say that dishrag comment sticks in my crawl as you probably already know.  Not having been in the military there are things you don't understand.  Forcing yourself to move up on and engage an enemy that is firing at you isn't easy.   There are a whole host of emotions and forces mixing inside you.  Fear, self preservation, adrenalin, the noise of war.  There are two reasons men engage when it is against their own self interest.  Honor and duty, to yourself, to your buddies, to your country, over ride the rest.

In the military, when one of us breaks one of those two things it is an unforgivable sin against yourself, your buddies and your country.

I'm sure you don't understand that.

     
Title: Re: In the military? Wanna do the right thing? Prepare to be detained...
Post by: sledge on February 24, 2012, 09:12:21 AM
OONW people die in wars.  Yes, there are war crimes committed in wars.  They're not right, but if you've fought you have a better understanding of why and how they occur.  It's part of something that is very ugly.

A traitor is a traitor whether he is on your side or the other side.  Personally, I hold them in contempt.

Title: Re: In the military? Wanna do the right thing? Prepare to be detained...
Post by: Outonowhere on February 24, 2012, 10:00:09 AM
A traitor is a traitor whether he is on your side or the other side.  Personally, I hold them in contempt.

You're absolutely right about Manning. 

Just let's not forget who we swore our oath's to in the future though  ;D
Title: Re: In the military? Wanna do the right thing? Prepare to be detained...
Post by: hjmoosejaw on February 24, 2012, 11:04:14 AM
Doesn't matter if it's the SS or the U.S. Government or whatever. If a man is entrusted with something and accepts that trust or gives his word on something, he keeps it. If he doesn't agree, then he never had to accept it in the first place. No one forced him.

Im sorry but "no snitching" is a little different when we are talking about 100,000+ civilian deaths caused by an Invasion based on a fucking lie. With an additional 13,000 civilian deaths admitted by the papers manning released.

But hey, i guess he's just a "little fagot piece of shit". Fuck those 113,000+ dead iraqis, they deserved to die for living under Saddam's rule and worshipping satan (allah), right boys? After all, worshipping that masonic dishrag you call an american flag is far more important than the exposing the meaningless deaths of tens of thousands of innocent people caused by pointless wars of aggression.

I don't know how you guys think and I don't want to know, because the constant advocation of the murder of foreigners scares the ever-loving shit out of me because who's next? What if Arkansas rebelled against federal occupation? What if someone leaked documents of tens of thousands of american civilians were being killed? would that person also be a "fagot piece of shit" for "betraying his battle buddies"?

How many US soldiers have been killed as a direct result of the "intelligence" that Manning leaked?
Can you tell me?
Because i bet you fucking can't.




Don't know where to start,but not feeling like typing that much, I'll keep it short. Leaking info may save lives, it may get people killed. I'm sure it's done both. Is there shit I disagree with about the Government? Hell yes! There's right and wrong in every government. I'm not going to get in a pissing contest over the numbers. example:  The A-bomb. How many did it kill, how many did it save by ending WW2 sooner ? I'm talking about loyalty. There seems to be less and less of it as time goes on. After serving under that flag and after standing with one in my hand as a Flag draped coffin passed by, while standing with the Patriot Guard on 3 occasions, I also am bothered by the Flag being a dishrag comment. But you have the right to say it. How many "loyal" men and women have served and died to give you that right? Wow, there's a number for you to come up with.
Title: Re: In the military? Wanna do the right thing? Prepare to be detained...
Post by: UnBroken on February 24, 2012, 11:45:57 AM
Damn !!!! Did i miss the gangbang on sledge.......that got me all hot and botherd.

Seriously tho. I was a grunt for the marines and am a fueler for the army. The one thing that never changed was chain of command. The guy had a million chances to do it the right way. Instead he runs around with his cock in his hand hoping someone wont shut the door on it......


well the fucking door got shut and he can have a long time to think about it when he gets married to his bunk mate Sgt. Ass rape.... I have no love or pity for that little pus pus.

If it ever comes to the day where i feel I am in no way protecting my country. I will walk out with my head held high and move to my BOL. cause the shit just hit boys and girls..... The shit just hit
Title: Re: In the military? Wanna do the right thing? Prepare to be detained...
Post by: Crow on February 24, 2012, 12:59:00 PM
Damn !!!! Did i miss the gangbang on sledge.......that got me all hot and botherd.

Seriously tho. I was a grunt for the marines and am a fueler for the army. The one thing that never changed was chain of command. The guy had a million chances to do it the right way. Instead he runs around with his cock in his hand hoping someone wont shut the door on it......


well the fucking door got shut and he can have a long time to think about it when he gets married to his bunk mate Sgt. Ass rape.... I have no love or pity for that little pus pus.







If it ever comes to the day where i feel I am in no way protecting my country. I will walk out with my head held high and move to my BOL. cause the shit just hit boys and girls..... The shit just hit

pretty much my thoughts exactly. I didn't actually mean for the thread to be deleted what I really meant was this is something that really shouldn't be talked about due to the fact that the guy went about it the completely wrong way I wasn't trying to make anyone get all butt hurt for whatever. anyone ever seen that movie rules of engagement where all those super anderson nice fun loving civilians just minding their own business while shooting at u s troops that they gravely outnumbered I don't remember that well but I'm pretty sure it was a u s embassy that they were just holding up, that kind of shit happens all the time and we are always the bad guys. I don't care about hippie babel bullshit those hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians where it as innocent as you might think. watch just about any vietnam movie hiding mines in rice strapping gernades to babies throwing them at soldiers this is all the same shit we've dealt with over there except now they have cool radio device is where they can detonate a child bomb from up to 3 clicks away.

Rs I wasn't bashing you really just pretty much manning and his bullshit. there are so many ways he could have reported that and so many people he could have reported that to.
Title: Re: In the military? Wanna do the right thing? Prepare to be detained...
Post by: RS762 on February 24, 2012, 01:05:41 PM
Listen, I understand how you guys feel and im not trying to hurt feelings.

But i will say if 113,000+ Iraqi civilians are dead chances are most werent killed throwing explosive-stuffed teddy bears at Us tropps.  [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at

Not to mention Iraq isn't our country...

But I have never been in the military and i never will, therefore you guys have done and experienced events that I have absolutely no comprehension of, and cannot fully understand.

That being said some of you have probably lost buddies fighting for that flag so I'll stop and be on my way.
Title: Re: In the military? Wanna do the right thing? Prepare to be detained...
Post by: RS762 on February 24, 2012, 01:06:25 PM
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Title: Re: In the military? Wanna do the right thing? Prepare to be detained...
Post by: EJR914 on February 24, 2012, 02:22:32 PM
I see Manning as a hero, only because of how corrupt and disgusting our government has become.

If our government was not so disgusting and corrupt, I'd probably feel the same way as many here. 

I understand those that served, and I understand your views just fine.  You have your worldview, I have mine. 

Was Colonel Claus von Stauffenberg a hero?  Yes, in my opinion, he died a hero, as well as others were tried to take out Hitler in Operation Valkyrie.

What this guy did was MUCH less radical than what they did, but it was in the same spirit.  He was trying to get THE TRUTH out there, of which our GOVERNMENT and the MEDIA lie to us DAILY on what is really going on with these interventionist wars. 

He's a hero in my book, and nothing that anyone says is going to change that.

I'M TIRED OF BEING LIED TO BY MY GOVERNMENT AND THE MEDIA!  I'M TIRED OF EVERYTHING THAT THE GOVERNMENT DOES BEING MARKED "TOP SECRET" AND NOT AVAILABLE FOR AMERICA'S PUBLIC EYES, EVEN WHEN ITS JUST TINY SHIT LIKE THE TRUTH!

I'M TIRED OF IT!  I MEAN COMPLETELY FUCKING TIRED OF IT!

I'm a big boy, I can take the truth from my government.  I'm tired of being kept in the dark all the time about even the most tiny shit, that doesn't even matter.

I understand the need for "TOP SECRET" material, but those in power are simply ABUSING that privilege and they are making EVERYTHING "TOP SECRET" even small shit that doesn't matter.  LET THE AMERICAN PUBLIC KNOW! 

We are supposedly living in a free and open society.  We are not, we are living in a closed society where our government does its best to keep the public completely in the dark on everything.  I'm tired of it.
Title: Re: In the military? Wanna do the right thing? Prepare to be detained...
Post by: Outonowhere on February 24, 2012, 03:57:18 PM
I see Manning as a hero, only because of how corrupt and disgusting our government has become.The problem is that instead of working within the organization to bring these things out he went to a foreigner to leak this info too.  He tried to play it off that he could have gone to Russia or China with the info but didn't, they found out anyway though.

If our government was not so disgusting and corrupt, I'd probably feel the same way as many here. 

I understand those that served, and I understand your views just fine.  You have your worldview, I have mine. 

Was Colonel Claus von Stauffenberg a hero?  Yes, in my opinion, he died a hero, as well as others were tried to take out Hitler in Operation Valkyrie.  Manning didn't try to stop what was going on or try to improve the situation.  Instead he did the same thing that we decry Clinton for and gave secret information to a foreigner hoping that would make a difference.

What this guy did was MUCH less radical than what they did, but it was in the same spirit.  Not even in the same ball park.  Spreading info that has the potential to harm his own countrymen is not the same as trying to kill the mad man running the whole operation.  Sorry.
He was trying to get THE TRUTH out there, of which our GOVERNMENT and the MEDIA lie to us DAILY on what is really going on with these interventionist wars.  Get the truth out, yes.  Interventionist wars, I would argue more empirical given the aim is resources.

He's a hero in my book, and nothing that anyone says is going to change that.

I'M TIRED OF BEING LIED TO BY MY GOVERNMENT AND THE MEDIA!  I'M TIRED OF EVERYTHING THAT THE GOVERNMENT DOES BEING MARKED "TOP SECRET" AND NOT AVAILABLE FOR AMERICA'S PUBLIC EYES, EVEN WHEN ITS JUST TINY SHIT LIKE THE TRUTH!

I'M TIRED OF IT!  I MEAN COMPLETELY FUCKING TIRED OF IT! Be careful what you ask for!  But I can agree that the supposedly MOST transparent administration this is not.[/color]

I understand the need for "TOP SECRET" material, but those in power are simply ABUSING that privilege and they are making EVERYTHING "TOP SECRET" even small shit that doesn't matter.  LET THE AMERICAN PUBLIC KNOW!  Most of the small stuff like that is for OpSec like everyone always preaches.  Just like the HossUSMC not posting the videos of his desert adventures till the Op was over.  Wait till you're clear of the killing field.

We are supposedly living in a free and open society.  We are not, we are living in a closed society where our government does its best to keep the public completely in the dark on everything.  I'm tired of it.    Wake up, Alice.  the world you live in hasn't been the way they claim it was for a long time.  They just took care to hide it better.
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I'm a big boy, I can take the truth from my government.  I'm tired of being kept in the dark all the time about even the most tiny shit, that doesn't even matter.[color=green)


He played the game, broke the rules and made his own.  Whether he was doing it "for the general good" or not, he rolled the dice and got burned.  Now he is sitting in a prison cell, maybe for the rest of his life.  Look at it this way, at least he didn't get a bullet or a drone missile to the forehead!  Should things change, there is a chance for his status to change.  It still doesn't change the fact that he acted on his own and gave top secret to a foreigner.  Not even your hero Colonel Claus von Stauffenberg worked alone in his endeavors.  Kind of reinforces the whole Stand Together or Swing Separate thing.
Title: Re: In the military? Wanna do the right thing? Prepare to be detained...
Post by: EJR914 on February 24, 2012, 04:04:53 PM
Still a hero in my book, I don't care.  He essentially gave up his life, (life in prison) to get the truth out! 

Not to mention that if he would have tried to do this in the chain of command you really think this would have gotten out?!?!?!  LOL  Don't be so damn naive.  You think those above him and on top would have let him do anything with this information?  They would have just been good little soliders and covered it up just like they do with everything!  That's why these guys are in the places that they are, THEY PLAY BALL!  They DO what their "betters" tell them to do.  That's why they are in higher positions.  They are but Glorified politicians, NOT SOLDIERS at that point. 

Maybe if more would bring about all this information, that really shouldn't be Top Secret anyway, the public may actually be informed, instead of the dark.

Also, you're saying things that cannot be quantified.  Prove to me HOW MANY American solders were killed because of his actions.  Go ahead do it.  You can't, so that's a bunch of statist bullshit your spitting right there and I'll call you on it all day long.

When did I say this was a recent thing?  I didn't!  Our government has been doing this to us for a long time, maybe even the past 100 years.  I know we've been living under a thug government for the past 150 years.

I don't think they did a better job of hiding it, I think they are trying the same things to hide information now, but it is the internet and the information age that has allowed us to become "aware" of things that we would of had NO WAY of finding out before.

Basically our government has lost control in some respect because of the internet.  Why do you think our government is currently trying to censor and control the internet so badly?

They are completely freaked out and worried that WAY too many people are waking up and way too fast. 
Title: Re: In the military? Wanna do the right thing? Prepare to be detained...
Post by: Crow on February 24, 2012, 04:27:26 PM
I see Manning as a hero, only because of how corrupt and disgusting our government has become.

If our government was not so disgusting and corrupt, I'd probably feel the same way as many here. 

I understand those that served, and I understand your views just fine.  You have your worldview, I have mine. 

Was Colonel Claus von Stauffenberg a hero?  Yes, in my opinion, he died a hero, as well as others were tried to take out Hitler in Operation Valkyrie.

What this guy did was MUCH less radical than what they did, but it was in the same spirit.  He was trying to get THE TRUTH out there, of which our GOVERNMENT and the MEDIA lie to us DAILY on what is really going on with these interventionist wars. 

He's a hero in my book, and nothing that anyone says is going to change that.

I'M TIRED OF BEING LIED TO BY MY GOVERNMENT AND THE MEDIA!  I'M TIRED OF EVERYTHING THAT THE GOVERNMENT DOES BEING MARKED "TOP SECRET" AND NOT AVAILABLE FOR AMERICA'S PUBLIC EYES, EVEN WHEN ITS JUST TINY SHIT LIKE THE TRUTH!

I'M TIRED OF IT!  I MEAN COMPLETELY FUCKING TIRED OF IT!

I'm a big boy, I can take the truth from my government.  I'm tired of being kept in the dark all the time about even the most tiny shit, that doesn't even matter.

I understand the need for "TOP SECRET" material, but those in power are simply ABUSING that privilege and they are making EVERYTHING "TOP SECRET" even small shit that doesn't matter.  LET THE AMERICAN PUBLIC KNOW! 

We are supposedly living in a free and open society.  We are not, we are living in a closed society where our government does its best to keep the public completely in the dark on everything.  I'm tired of it.


I won't lie I read til I saw the tired of being lied to part and you are right they dont tel you about all the buildings and houses and land we've cleaned up for them the welds we've dug the 100 of thousands pounds of food we've given them the millions of gallons of water we've given and not to mention given them the technology to process their own water built hospitals and GAVE them free training to handle their own political and laws we gave them structure to  build upon that is decades more advanced than what their previous system was built upon, I'm sorry the media doesn't tel you about the half full part of the glass. If you know norse"mythology" we gave them their own ragnarok something this whole world will eventually see one as a whole so stop worrying about the big picture placing false heroes in praise and spend your time preparing for when our "tyrranous" government tries to force you to fly that flash that represents your very right to speak what would get your hands chopped off and tongue cut out if you were in any number of countries. [url=http://www.freesmileys.or
Title: Re: In the military? Wanna do the right thing? Prepare to be detained...
Post by: EJR914 on February 24, 2012, 04:47:03 PM
I won't lie I read til I saw the tired of being lied to part and you are right they dont tel you about all the buildings and houses and land we've cleaned up for them the welds we've dug the 100 of thousands pounds of food we've given them the millions of gallons of water we've given and not to mention given them the technology to process their own water built hospitals and GAVE them free training to handle their own political and laws we gave them structure to  build upon that is decades more advanced than what their previous system was built upon, I'm sorry the media doesn't tel you about the half full part of the glass. If you know norse"mythology" we gave them their own ragnarok something this whole world will eventually see one as a whole so stop worrying about the big picture placing false heroes in praise and spend your time preparing for when our "tyrranous" government tries to force you to fly that flash that represents your very right to speak what would get your hands chopped off and tongue cut out if you were in any number of countries.

I'm not for welfare here or welfare in foreign countries, either. 
Title: Re: In the military? Wanna do the right thing? Prepare to be detained...
Post by: sledge on February 24, 2012, 05:05:40 PM
Manning is a hero huh?  Well, he's in jail now.  I guess we can all agree to weep over him.  Some because he's there and some because he didn't get the chair.

I will say this, he's damn lucky Ron Paul didn't get his way.   If it had been a declared war he would have been put up against a wall and shot for what he did.



 
Title: Re: In the military? Wanna do the right thing? Prepare to be detained...
Post by: EJR914 on February 24, 2012, 05:10:05 PM
Manning is a hero huh?  Well, he's in jail now.  I guess we can all agree to weep over him.  Some because he's there and some because he didn't get the chair.

I will say this, he's damn lucky Ron Paul didn't get his way.   If it had been a declared war he would have been put up against a wall and shot for what he did.

I think he knew he would get caught for what he did, and he's serving his time.  That's part of what makes him a hero in my eyes.  He literally gave his life (life in prison) to do what he thought was right. 

Also, that would just have made him even more of a martyr, I guess.  I would actually say that if I were in his place, I would most likely want to be put to death, over being in prison or "the hole" for the rest of my life.

Thus begins back into the debate whether life in prison or the death penalty is worse.  I have always voted life in prison is worse than the death penalty.  I'd rather it be really bad, but quick, then life in a box for the rest of my life, not allowed to make my own decisions about my life or do what I wanted. 
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Post by: sledge on February 24, 2012, 05:30:13 PM
Manning is a hero huh?  Well, he's in jail now.  I guess we can all agree to weep over him.  Some because he's there and some because he didn't get the chair.

I will say this, he's damn lucky Ron Paul didn't get his way.   If it had been a declared war he would have been put up against a wall and shot for what he did.

I think he knew he would get caught for what he did, and he's serving his time.  That's part of what makes him a hero in my eyes.  He literally gave his life (life in prison) to do what he thought was right. 

Also, that would just have made him even more of a martyr, I guess.  I would actually say that if I were in his place, I would most likely want to be put to death, over being in prison or "the hole" for the rest of my life.

Thus begins back into the debate whether life in prison or the death penalty is worse.  I have always voted life in prison is worse than the death penalty.  I'd rather it be really bad, but quick, then life in a box for the rest of my life, not allowed to make my own decisions about my life or do what I wanted.

People of his sexual persuasion don't mind going to prison.  It's like telling a kid you're going to punish them by locking them in a candy store.
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Post by: RS762 on February 24, 2012, 07:51:23 PM
Is that what anal rape is like Sledge?
I'll take your word for it.
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Post by: sledge on February 24, 2012, 09:07:30 PM
Is that what anal rape is like Sledge?
I'll take your word for it.

I honestly couldn't say.  I've never met anyone with either a death wish or the guts to try it.  Of course I'm pretty ugly so maybe that has something to do with it.
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Post by: Crow on February 24, 2012, 09:39:22 PM
Is that what anal rape is like Sledge?
I'll take your word for it.

I honestly couldn't say.  I've never met anyone with either a death wish or the guts to try it.  Of course I'm pretty ugly so maybe that has something to do with it.



I dont know if this was spite or good sportsmanship, either way it was hilarious..all of it...thanks for that guys lol
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Post by: sledge on February 24, 2012, 11:48:38 PM
Is that what anal rape is like Sledge?
I'll take your word for it.

I honestly couldn't say.  I've never met anyone with either a death wish or the guts to try it.  Of course I'm pretty ugly so maybe that has something to do with it.

I dont know if this was spite or good sportsmanship, either way it was hilarious..all of it...thanks for that guys lol


Oh RS was just busting my chops because we don't always agree.   He thinks from his point of view that I'm narrow minded on things like religion, gays, Muslims and such.

Actually, the difference is that I was educated in a time when they taught you how to think instead of what to think.  Back before the education system decided it was all the rage to imprint PC bullshit on the young people's brains.  So when I look at things I don't have a filter that I view them through.  Just kind of see them as they are.

He thinks I'm an old coot and I think he's a little mouthy.  But he's a good young man who's gonna see a lot of stuff before he's done.  I wish I could be around to tell him what he's seeing.  That would bug the crap out of him!  LOL!   
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Post by: hjmoosejaw on February 25, 2012, 12:10:31 AM
I think we could all agree on one thing. Cindy Sheehan is one ugly be=otch!
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Post by: sledge on February 25, 2012, 12:27:49 AM
I think we could all agree on one thing. Cindy Sheehan is one ugly be=otch!


The anti war lady?  Is she part of that code pink group?   I don't know man, I mean she isn't pretty.

I kind of feel sorry for her.  I feel bad for all the mother's who have lost their sons.  Losing a child has got to be a real bitch.  I remember how my mother was when one of my brothers died at 26.  Hard times. 

War is a terrible thing.  It always has been.  But it's something that has been here since the beginning and has never left.  As long as women continue to have sons they'll be marching of to war and some will die.

Mrs Sheehan nor anyone else will ever be able to change that.  But let her try if it helps her deal with her loss. 

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Post by: RS762 on February 25, 2012, 12:35:11 AM
Quote
Oh RS was just busting my chops because we don't always agree.   He thinks from his point of view that I'm narrow minded on things like religion, gays, Muslims and such.

Actually, the difference is that I was educated in a time when they taught you how to think instead of what to think.  Back before the education system decided it was all the rage to imprint PC bullshit on the young people's brains.  So when I look at things I don't have a filter that I view them through.  Just kind of see them as they are.

He thinks I'm an old coot and I think he's a little mouthy.  But he's a good young man who's gonna see a lot of stuff before he's done.  I wish I could be around to tell him what he's seeing.  That would bug the crap out of him!  LOL!

lol pretty much.
However i would have to say i disagree with you on being taught what to think, among my generation it's not exactly hip to believe what i believe, you can trust me on that one. I wasn't much good in school anyway my friend.

 
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Post by: hjmoosejaw on February 25, 2012, 12:44:11 AM
I definitely feel bad for her loss. That would be the hardest thing to ever have to face. But all that and her politics aside, Whew, she is not at all attractive. And I don't have high standards either. lol But I'd have to draw the line there.
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Post by: sledge on February 25, 2012, 01:07:36 AM
I definitely feel bad for her loss. That would be the hardest thing to ever have to face. But all that and her politics aside, Whew, she is not at all attractive. And I don't have high standards either. lol But I'd have to draw the line there.

LOL!  Yeah, I know what your saying.  But women like her have been known to look a lot better about 2 in the morning after a night of drinking.  I can attest to that!  But opening your eyes the next morning makes you want to reevaluate that whole drinking thing.  LOL!  No offense meant to any ladies.  Everyone deserves to be loved.

Edit:  Of course as ugly as I am I'm sure some old girl is telling the same kind of story about me.  LOL!
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Post by: hjmoosejaw on February 25, 2012, 01:21:03 AM
I've had a few nights and mornings like that too. More than I'd like to remember. That's the kind that makes you want to chew your arm off rather than wake her to get out of there. Some of them are like a mo=ped. They're fun to ride but you don't want your friends to see you with it.
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Post by: sledge on February 25, 2012, 01:27:52 AM
I've had a few nights and mornings like that too. More than I'd like to remember. That's the kind that makes you want to chew your arm off rather than wake her to get out of there. Some of them are like a mo=ped. They're fun to ride but you don't want your friends to see you with it.

Damn, that's funny as hell! I'm LMAO!  Oh man, I hope no women see this or we're gonna catch hell.  LOL!
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Post by: hjmoosejaw on February 25, 2012, 01:45:30 AM
Speaking of women. There need to be more here. A while back I poster a thread called "Nicest looking ankle holster" I was surprised nobody commented on it. I wasn't talking about the holster, but the woman wearing it. Her and her husband/boyfriend are getting into prepping. Somebody should invite her and other prepper women to visit this site. I poster her in "Gear Review"
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Post by: WhiteWolf on February 25, 2012, 01:47:33 AM
Speaking of women. There need to be more here. A while back I poster a thread called "Nicest looking ankle holster" I was surprised nobody commented on it. I wasn't talking about the holster, but the woman wearing it. Her and her husband/boyfriend are getting into prepping. Somebody should invite her and other prepper women to visit this site. I poster her in "Gear Review"
I think there are women here. TG just keeps them locked up somewhere safe away from the rest of us.
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Post by: sledge on February 25, 2012, 01:51:43 AM
We've had prepper women on here from time to time.  They don't seem to stick around.  There still may be some visiting but they don't speak up.  Shy I guess.  Or maybe they think we're all male prepper pigs.  Well, who could blame them. 
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Post by: hjmoosejaw on February 25, 2012, 01:52:44 AM
You almost can't blame him I guess.
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Post by: hjmoosejaw on February 25, 2012, 02:19:46 AM
http://youtu.be/HSva04VrdEo (http://youtu.be/HSva04VrdEo)


I could watch her shoot all day!
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Post by: Outonowhere on February 25, 2012, 07:15:22 AM
[url]http://youtu.be/HSva04VrdEo[/url] ([url]http://youtu.be/HSva04VrdEo[/url])


I could watch her shoot all day!


Clearly false advertising, I mean the casing barely made it down her boob and never entered her bra.  Guys, replay that section of the video and tell me I'm wrong!  :))
 [url=http://yoursmiles.org/p-m
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Post by: rah45 on February 25, 2012, 09:39:48 AM
She's gorgeous, but smiles waaay too much. I ABHOR fake smiling in a woman. A genuine smile is one of the sexiest things about them.
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Post by: EJR914 on February 25, 2012, 10:07:49 AM
[url]http://youtu.be/HSva04VrdEo[/url] ([url]http://youtu.be/HSva04VrdEo[/url])


I could watch her shoot all day!


KZOZ Motor Boat Drag Races Shane From Grover Beach (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rh7Xk1MZj8#)
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Post by: Reaver on February 25, 2012, 12:35:59 PM
You guys amaze me.

Three weeks from now we are going to be on blog tv bitching about people not staying on topic.

Check yourself gents.
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Post by: hjmoosejaw on February 25, 2012, 12:50:11 PM
You guys amaze me.

Three weeks from now we are going to be on blog tv bitching about people not staying on topic.

Check yourself gents.


Sometimes I think the original topic gets discussed, views and opinions are stated. It sometimes gets heated. Then after it all, a little comic relief may be needed. Probably just running it's natural course. It can't be doom and gloom all the time. IMHO 
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Post by: Reaver on February 25, 2012, 12:53:44 PM
Well think about it this way.

Your new to the site, you click on the article read the OP then scroll to the last comment, you see some chick getting motor boated

Your thoughts are?
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Post by: hjmoosejaw on February 25, 2012, 12:58:47 PM
True. But if they scroll and read along the way, then they'll see the important stuff has been gone over. If they scroll right to the end,they don't care about the subject matter anyway. Who knows?
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Post by: sledge on February 25, 2012, 01:30:15 PM
Well think about it this way.

Your new to the site, you click on the article read the OP then scroll to the last comment, you see some chick getting motor boated

Your thoughts are?

Well, glancing at the title I'm probably thinking that chick is about to be temporarily detained and it's the right thing.
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Post by: thatGuy on February 25, 2012, 01:42:31 PM
I've been thinking about this topic all day, someone texted me about it night before last but I was out backpacking and couldn't speak my piece.

And thank god for it too! I can see both sides of the argument and can get fired up from either direction. Manning is a fucking traitor but so is every politician that would sit at his trial.

What I really want to talk about is our public image and the lack of female involvement here at StraightPrep.

As Reaver so wisely points out when new folks come to new forums they end up skimming a lot of the threads rather than getting into them. Personally I like to lurk around reading the 'active topics' until I know the players before I wade into the archives.

But you got to dig that people come here and see us jumping on each other like rabid dogs and they (rightly so) are scared off. Imagine that you were a 'nice' woman and you see that every thread on this forum goes from someone expressing an idea, getting their shit pushed in and finishes on a solid motorboat?

The world is listening gentlemen, I have provided you a stage. What say you?
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Post by: sledge on February 25, 2012, 02:04:03 PM
You make some good points in your post.  And Reaver is certainly wise.  I will say this, anyone who spends any time reading the site won't have to look very long to see we're all friends.  We all have our own opinions, we mostly agree on some things and disagree on others.  Sometimes adamantly.

We can bust each others chops one minute and be doing a buddy chest bump the next because in the end we all know we're in the same boat.

As to how women think when they visit (if they visit) I'm not sure.  Who can figure out a woman's mind?  Perhaps if they said something when they're here we'd get more of line on their train of thought.

I do know the guys act a little differently when they know a female is in the forum.

 
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Post by: hjmoosejaw on February 25, 2012, 02:14:19 PM
You're right TG. I've noticed posting can be tricky. You have to be careful how ya word something. There is always somebody ready to pounce. You want to discuss something, then you get  this "yeah, well that f#@*^&g sucks and my f%&^$(G  thing is so f*^#@g much better" stuff. It does get old. 
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Post by: thatGuy on February 25, 2012, 02:35:11 PM
Yeah HJ, its bullshit the way we jump on each other. Everyone has the right to an opinion and people like to think that gives them the right to beat others with their own opinion.

For those of us who came here from the old forum we know each other pretty well but that familiarity could scare off new guys who may well have a ton of great shit to offer.

So lets try to make a better effort to be nice to one another. <-not directed at anyone in particular
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Post by: sledge on February 25, 2012, 02:37:36 PM
Yeah HJ, its bullshit the way we jump on each other. Everyone has the right to an opinion and people like to think that gives them the right to beat others with their own opinion.

For those of us who came here from the old forum we know each other pretty well but that familiarity could scare off new guys who may well have a ton of great shit to offer.

So lets try to make a better effort to be nice to one another. <-not directed at anyone in particular


 [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co  Aye, Aye Sir.  Understood.
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Post by: hjmoosejaw on February 25, 2012, 02:45:22 PM
Yeah HJ, its bullshit the way we jump on each other. Everyone has the right to an opinion and people like to think that gives them the right to beat others with their own opinion.

For those of us who came here from the old forum we know each other pretty well but that familiarity could scare off new guys who may well have a ton of great shit to offer.

So lets try to make a better effort to be nice to one another. <-not directed at anyone in particular

 Aye, Aye Sir.  Understood.


Let's be nice and Aye Aye. That's just f^#*@*g Ha Ha GOtcha!  Just kidding! Sounds good to me. 
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Post by: Crow on February 25, 2012, 07:24:54 PM
Alright I like it we got a good vibe going here, like daddy just slapped momma at the dinner table lol. I was close to saying the same thing reaver did but kinda decided since I was apart of the initial grrr I thought it was better to just let everyone shake hands and be able to laugh together again.

As for scaring off new folk I lurked this forum for a few hours before actually joining and the trolling one another and and heated discussions showed me that you guys are like family the good the bad and the ugly. And I knew that for a sodium forum it was an invaluable source of information and comradery that for me is highly unlikely to be found else where. Now if anyone else can see the possible enlightenment to be had here just by lurking is beyond me but I think even through all the shananagans people will see the merit of this community.you guys are pretty awesome dudes and ive actually learned quite abit from you in my short travels I've made through the murky waters of enlightenment we so call straightprep.com/forum
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Post by: sledge on February 25, 2012, 07:30:56 PM
 ??? Reflecting for a minute, pondering who the heck was supposed to be momma? 

It sure as hell ain't gonna be me!   >:(
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Post by: hjmoosejaw on February 25, 2012, 07:40:28 PM
Not me, although I've been called a mother on more than one occasion.                                                                                                   
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Post by: Crow on February 25, 2012, 07:45:42 PM
??? Reflecting for a minute, pondering who the heck was supposed to be momma? 

It sure as hell ain't gonna be me!   >:(

Lol the mom is imaginary we are the metaphorical onlooking children of TG slapping her and giving us the grim look of "youre next you little shit!" Its actually a quote from danecook it seemed humorously applicable.
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Post by: sledge on February 25, 2012, 07:54:06 PM
??? Reflecting for a minute, pondering who the heck was supposed to be momma? 

It sure as hell ain't gonna be me!   >:(

Lol the mom is imaginary we are the metaphorical onlooking children of TG slapping her and giving us the grim look of "youre next you little shit!" Its actually a quote from danecook it seemed humorously applicable.

Oh, I see.  It's funny, some of the guys used to call L&L their daddy and now it's TG.  The lil bastards just aren't sure who their daddy is.  LOL!  Not that I'm calling anyone a lil bastard.  It's more of that imaginary metaphorical stuff.  LOL!
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Post by: Reaver on February 25, 2012, 09:50:31 PM
505th is mom....and TG is his brother.... wait a minute......

Ewww we are one Fucked family  [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
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Post by: thatGuy on February 26, 2012, 03:32:34 AM
Gather round children and let me tell you the tale of how I met you mother... errr... uncle....
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Post by: EJR914 on February 27, 2012, 04:29:52 PM
What can I say?  I'm a motor-boating Son of a Bitch!
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Post by: 1000meterstare on February 27, 2012, 10:19:41 PM
Hi guys! I had the EXACT same MOS as Manning.  96 Bravo.  Intel Analyst.  I puked and bled and jumped out of planes and worked to do my job.  What do you think of me??? 
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Post by: 1000meterstare on February 27, 2012, 10:20:49 PM
That MOS no longer exists now in the ARMY.  I guess the need for good analysts and intel is gone...
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Post by: thatGuy on February 27, 2012, 11:59:55 PM
What do I think of you 1kmStare?

Your pretty ornery for a dude with a replacement hip!

But no really you didn't hand over a grab bag of intel to some English puke who then blasted that shit all over the internet did you? No?

Dude you did your job and went home. That kid was a skate and a first class blue falcon. Two different dudes all together.
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Post by: EJR914 on February 28, 2012, 07:37:07 AM
Hi guys! I had the EXACT same MOS as Manning.  96 Bravo.  Intel Analyst.  I puked and bled and jumped out of planes and worked to do my job.  What do you think of me???


I think you're a fucking rock star, 1kMstare!   [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
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Post by: 1000meterstare on February 28, 2012, 05:53:29 PM
After the Army did away with that MOS I felt like a part of me died.  I was REALLY pissed when they decided to change uniform regs and give everyone in the army berets just for being in the Army.  A beret must be EARNED.  A beret USED to mean something:  maroon for Airborne, black for Rangers, and green for Special Forces.
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Post by: 1000meterstare on February 28, 2012, 05:55:27 PM
Yeah, I'm ornery and mebbeh a fast healer, too.  Less than a month after surgery I started walking without a cane yesterday.  That's lightspeed for hip replacement.
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Post by: thatGuy on February 28, 2012, 08:50:08 PM
No joke, I mowed the lawn of a man who had both sides done at once. It took a while for him to get going again.

How's the new hardware treating you?
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Post by: 1000meterstare on February 28, 2012, 09:31:35 PM
Thank God I have good insurance.  Titanium, state-of-the-art.  Still stiffness and soreness but it feels like nothing foreign in my body.
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Post by: thatGuy on February 29, 2012, 12:37:24 AM
I can't imagine that you weren't sore and stiff before letting someone pound that fancy bit of metal into your femur!
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Post by: Crow on February 29, 2012, 08:35:11 PM
1000m starem its just the brevity that changed Igotta buddy that reclassed about 2 years ago to it.

35F Intelligence Analyst 35G Imagery Analyst Course (BNCOC) and the Advanced Noncommissioned Officer Course (ANCOC). Having the correct information about enemy forces and potential battle areas is absolutely necessary to plan for our national defense. Intelligence Analysts work with other intelligence specialists to gather and study aerial photographs, electronic monitoring and human observation. Intelligence Analysts are primarily responsible for analysis, processing and distribution of strategic and battlefield-related intelligence needed by Army personnel to design defense plans and tactics.
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Post by: 1000meterstare on March 01, 2012, 05:52:10 PM
I was an all-source analyst, responsible for tactical all-source intelligence production.  I received data, and like any "investigator" I put the puzzle pieces together to give the commander finished intel in a coherent picture he could base his decisions on.