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If The Epicenter Is . . .
« on: January 19, 2017, 11:46:31 PM »
SW Va you will know I freaked out.  I am right on the edge!!!!  There is a video at the link but I cannot watch it and stay sane!  There are pics at the link too but I won't taint my computer and post them. 

Obama must truly have been the antichrist.

Sacrilege!!  Pure Sacrilege!!!!   A STRIKER FIRED 1911. 

Pure unadulterated evil.  EVIL I say.  The devil is taking over the world.  I pray Sam and John Moses will be risen from the dead to save us all.

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The Hudson H9 Pistol: Why the Hype is Real
Video | Posted on January 18, 2017 by AmmoLand Editor Duncan Johnson

hudson-mfg-logoLas Vegas, Nevada –-(Ammoland.com)- Hudson Manufacturing has developed a truly unique pistol that lives up to all the excitement preceding SHOT Show.  The technology that was employed to transform the traditional 1911 frame and incorporate a striker fire design is revolutionary.  The result is the Hudson H9 Pistol, and this is a very impressive firearm.

First off let’s address the purists, those guys who revere the 1911 style as the best pistol there is available. I am not going to argue that some classics are best left alone, and the 1911 is an American classic.  But, what the Hudson H9 pistol has done may even have some 1911 purists turning their heads.  I am guessing they would start by picking on the aesthetics of the gun, so I will start there as well.

This gun looks awesome. If you do not like it then I am going to guess you are older than me, and I might be wrong.  There is no offense meant by that. Like I said the 1911 is a classic and an icon in the gun industry. The Hudson H9 pistol has been described by some fans and critics that it looks like a “Space Gun”.  Maybe that is not for you, but for myself, I can dig it.

Looks obviously looks don’t matter too much with a gun, so let’s get to the important stuff.  What really makes this pistol live up to all the hype is the internal design.  Even the aesthetics of this gun are not just for show.  The front end of the pistol allows the recoil spring and the barrel to be placed closer to the hand. The striker-fire design of the pistol in conjunction with the placement of the barrel and recoil spring create a very low bore axis.

The result of moving these toward the hand is that the gun’s recoil is far easier to control. Rather than the barrel flipping up, the recoil is driven back into the user’s hands.  Obviously, this design is extremely helpful for staying on target and shooting accurate follow-up shots down range.

Again, following the success of the 1911 design, Hudson Mfg. choose to go with a 1911 style trigger. When I shot this gun at Industry Day at the Range, I really enjoyed this trigger design.  The trigger travels only 0.115 inches and the pull is between 4.75 and 5 lbs. The Hudson H9 pistol also features ambidextrous controls including ambi-slide releases and reversible magazine releases.

Hudson Manufacturing has also developed a patent pending thumb safeties for those purists we discussed before. These safeties will be available in right, left or ambidextrous controls.

At Industry Day at the Range, this was the farthest booth down the line, but it was also a very popular stop for everyone there. When I got the chance to take a few shots I instantly wanted to load another magazine and fire away again.

The Hudson H9 pistol was not heavy although I had heard some people complain about that, I found the weight to be a non-issue. Unloaded and without a magazine the H9 weighs a little more than 2 pounds.

Hudson also pulled out the stops on the grips and sights.The grips on the H9 are G10 VZ Grips with a G10 Hogue Lower backstrap.  The firearm comes standard with Trijicon HD front sights, making it easier to find that post even in the bright sun.

If you enjoy a 1911 steel frame and are a fan of striker fired pistols, then the Hudson H9 Pistol is honestly the best of both worlds.  This was a great gun to get to see and shoot. It is also always a good thing to see a company that is willing to go out of the box to design a system because they believe it will change the way things are typically done.
The Hudson H9 pistol has been in development for nearly 3 years. From left to right is the progression of the firearm, with the top being the final product.
The Hudson H9 pistol has been in development for nearly 3 years. From left to right is the progression of the firearm, with the top being the final product.

The MSRP is currently listed at $1,147.00. If you have the cash and are looking for a new pistol, you may want to hold out until this one drops into the market.
About Brian D. Johnson:

Brian Duncan Johnson is a graduate of George Mason University in Fairfax, Virginia. His focus of studies was on History and Government. Duncan is a regular contributor to AmmoLand and assists in the everyday gun-news publishing as an assistant editor.
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Re: If The Epicenter Is . . .
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2017, 05:05:16 PM »
Man is that gun FUGLY
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Re: If The Epicenter Is . . .
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2017, 08:30:58 AM »
OMG!  :suicide:
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Re: If The Epicenter Is . . .
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2017, 11:04:42 PM »
I just got back from SHOT where I got a chance to shoot the new Hudson H9.  First it really isnt a striker fired 1911.  The grip angle and shape is definitely taken right from the 1911.  The trigger is similar but uses a glock style trigger safety, though it is reversed so depresses from the top.  The grip is definitely bigger than a std 1911 grip as it is built around using a S&W 5096 double stack mag. The unusual shape which extends the dust cover directly from the bottom of the trigger guard is due to the recoil spring being located well below the barrel lug rather than inline. It looks like it will be super "front heavy" but it is actually really well balanced.  It does have an accessory rail but I cant imagine using a light as it would sit way too far below the trigger level to activate without altering your grip drastically. Overall I would say that it will be a cool novelty gun, but I dont see it ever becoming a well established pistol.

It was probably the only really NEW thing at SHOT this year in guns.  The new M&P M2.0, the CZ P10 and a few others were new, but really were more of developments rather than new items.  It was a big year for 9mm AR carbines and there were some nice new glass options from Vortex, Elcan, NF and some nice new options in both Thermal and Night Vision. The new Torrey Pines T12 and T15 bring thermal into a cost effective realm.

A couple of new STI's, the Agency M&P M2.0 were my 2 handguns that I was drawn to.  The CZ P10 was the most overated in my opinion. It is a cross between a Glock and an M&P that losses the characteristics of CZs that makes them so solid. The trigger is nice out of the box, but People that like Glocks will stick with them and S&W fans wil end up staying there(especially with the new M2.0) so it is in that marketplace cometing with the Walthers, HKs, Sigs, FNs as well as the othe traditional style CZs.

The biggest handgun news of the week was the Sig P320 winning the contract to replace the M9 as the new Army sidearm.

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Re: If The Epicenter Is . . .
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2017, 07:27:16 AM »
Thanks for the report CJS06!

I have never fired a Sig P320. Is this handgun a good choice for the military?
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Re: If The Epicenter Is . . .
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2017, 08:33:06 AM »
Thanks for the report CJS06.  So what's up with the Torrey Pines thermal vision?  I have an older Torrey Pines thermal device, and it's pretty cool, but the resolution isn't good enough to be used on a firearm unless the target is very close.  I use it mostly for scanning for coyotes when I'm out and about at night.  So, I'm wondering if Torrey Pines has made significant improvements.

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Re: If The Epicenter Is . . .
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2017, 12:51:14 PM »
I just got back from SHOT where I got a chance to shoot the new Hudson H9.  First it really isnt a striker fired 1911.  The grip angle and shape is definitely taken right from the 1911.

So I guess I don't need to freak out huh?  Dayum, I was halfway hoping  .  .  ..

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Re: If The Epicenter Is . . .
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2017, 09:10:54 AM »
Johny Mac-  It is Sig's entry into the striker fired polymer framed pistol market. It is not a bad gun at all, that said I am not a fan. Nothing wrong with it, it just doesnt fit my hand as I would like. Then again I am not a huge Glock fan either....I prefer the S&W M&P in that type of gun.  I was really surprised Glock didnt win....as were most it seemed when the announcement came out.

Jackalope-  The Torrey Pines stuff was actually very impressive for the price.  The T12 and the T15 both had excellent resolution. In the T12 (small unit) I would only go with the 2x version, otherwise the screen is just too small. I really liked the T15 a bunch.  It has up to 3x magnification, multiple modes (white,black, color, red) and can be mounted in line with a weapon optic. If only it had a PVS style mount.  They are not nearly the units that an IR-Defender (now owned by Trijicon) is , but they are definitely a solid performer for someone to get into the IR game without breaking the bank.

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Re: If The Epicenter Is . . .
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2017, 10:08:20 AM »
$1,100 Bucks for an untested theory of a pistol can suck my ass
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Re: If The Epicenter Is . . .
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2017, 01:31:22 PM »
$1,100 Bucks for an untested theory of a pistol can suck my ass

Reaver after seeing it and shooting it I agree with you. Though it is very well made with an excellent fit and finish ( I can see why $1100), for a totally new platform with no real world time it would be a big step.  As I mentioned earlier I think they will do very well in the niche market of novelty guns that some people seem to NEED to have in a collection. I definitely dont see then taking a place as a go to duty/carry/hard use gun.

I would go with the new CZ P10 before that and to be honest it really didnt do anything for me. Who am I kidding I'll stick with my M&Ps and STI.

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Re: If The Epicenter Is . . .
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2017, 04:16:53 PM »
First off, I am NOT a Glock fan. Not because it is a bad handgun it just doesn't point well for me as I am use to the 1911/Browning Hi-Power ergonomics. The closest I have been able to find in striker fired weapon for my needs is the HK PV9. I have have not fired an M&P so I can not speak to that weapon.

Well anyway, CJS06 brought up the CZ P10 C and here is a link to their site and video.

I have been looking for a striker fired 9mm to replace my EDC & Battle rattle secondary, the Browning Hi-Power. By the way, I have been using to great success the Mec-Gar 15 round mags in it vs. the standard 13 round mag.

Maybe what I need to do is go out and buy one of each. Run them through their paces for a month or so and sell the excess ones. I do not keep weapons around I do not use. 
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Re: If The Epicenter Is . . .
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2017, 08:24:57 PM »
Maybe what I need to do is go out and buy one of each. Run them through their paces for a month or so and sell the excess ones. I do not keep weapons around I do not use.

Then you don't have enough in the cabinet.

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Re: If The Epicenter Is . . .
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2017, 09:08:00 PM »
First off, I am NOT a Glock fan. Not because it is a bad handgun it just doesn't point well for me as I am use to the 1911/Browning Hi-Power ergonomics. The closest I have been able to find in striker fired weapon for my needs is the HK PV9. I have have not fired an M&P so I can not speak to that weapon.

Well anyway, CJS06 brought up the CZ P10 C and here is a link to their site and video.

I have been looking for a striker fired 9mm to replace my EDC & Battle rattle secondary, the Browning Hi-Power. By the way, I have been using to great success the Mec-Gar 15 round mags in it vs. the standard 13 round mag.

Maybe what I need to do is go out and buy one of each. Run them through their paces for a month or so and sell the excess ones. I do not keep weapons around I do not use.


Johny definitely give the CZ a try if you get a chance along with the M&P.  Both should be reliable for years (the M&P has a ton more history). Once you shoot the go with the one that fits you the best. I have an M&P (though heavily modified) that you are welcome to shoot anytime you get back to lil Rhody.  The CZ was a nice shooting pistol but didnt do anything that made me want to go that way over the M&P.....but definitely worth a go for someone looking like you are.

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Re: If The Epicenter Is . . .
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2017, 09:10:56 AM »
First off, I am NOT a Glock fan. Not because it is a bad handgun it just doesn't point well for me as I am use to the 1911/Browning Hi-Power ergonomics. The closest I have been able to find in striker fired weapon for my needs is the HK PV9. I have have not fired an M&P so I can not speak to that weapon.

Well anyway, CJS06 brought up the CZ P10 C and here is a link to their site and video.

I have been looking for a striker fired 9mm to replace my EDC & Battle rattle secondary, the Browning Hi-Power. By the way, I have been using to great success the Mec-Gar 15 round mags in it vs. the standard 13 round mag.

Maybe what I need to do is go out and buy one of each. Run them through their paces for a month or so and sell the excess ones. I do not keep weapons around I do not use.


Everyone here knows this JM primarily because you're 470 years old.  :troutSlap:
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Re: If The Epicenter Is . . .
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2017, 10:03:04 AM »
First off, I am NOT a Glock fan. Not because it is a bad handgun it just doesn't point well for me as I am use to the 1911/Browning Hi-Power ergonomics. The closest I have been able to find in striker fired weapon for my needs is the HK PV9. I have have not fired an M&P so I can not speak to that weapon.

Well anyway, CJS06 brought up the CZ P10 C and here is a link to their site and video.

I have been looking for a striker fired 9mm to replace my EDC & Battle rattle secondary, the Browning Hi-Power. By the way, I have been using to great success the Mec-Gar 15 round mags in it vs. the standard 13 round mag.

Maybe what I need to do is go out and buy one of each. Run them through their paces for a month or so and sell the excess ones. I do not keep weapons around I do not use.


Everyone here knows this JM primarily because you're 470 years old.  :troutSlap:


Yeah, he grew up with Beretta (been around near 500 years) so he should be a M-92 fan.

But he seems to have realized the truth and the way with Sam and John and remains committed.  Otherwise his soul shall be committed for ever down there.

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Re: If The Epicenter Is . . .
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2017, 10:44:21 AM »
No, no, here is a pic of my primary...

.54 caliber of pure DEATH! It is super fast with one round a minute.  :lmfao:
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Re: If The Epicenter Is . . .
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2017, 05:00:35 PM »
I hope that first round is accurate!

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Re: If The Epicenter Is . . .
« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2017, 05:20:43 PM »
LOL Jackalope. These old eyes can drop a deer with ease and those sights at 100 yards. I can hit a 10" gong at 200 yards all day long  ;)
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Re: If The Epicenter Is . . .
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2017, 05:42:22 PM »
My Bobcat can do that also.  The one with the modern polymer stock assembly.  Cost me $60 used.

Nemo  :fuckYeah:

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Re: If The Epicenter Is . . .
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2017, 06:58:34 AM »
Thats cute Nemo however it is a cap lock. Real men use a flint lock  ;)
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Re: If The Epicenter Is . . .
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2017, 10:16:18 AM »
Bess already had a date when I was looking for her.

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