Unchained Preppers
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: JohnyMac on July 10, 2013, 11:42:42 AM
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Please clarify the poll question.
Is it:
What do I think the verdict will be?
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What would I vote if I were on the jury?
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What YOU think the verdict should be based on the info presented by the prosecuting and defense teams? Who knows how the jury will go. ;)
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Looks like I'm on the outside on this topic, again, lol.
I'm more sad that a schmuck like GZ could likely be the catalyst for whether we can legally defend ourselves with a firearm in the future.
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Crudos you have a point.
I think if he is found not guilty the DOJ is going to swoop in and charge him with a federal hate crime. Drone Holder is out there flying around at 10,000' just waiting.
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Not guilty
Riots in the streets for the win. :fuckYeah:
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Manslaughter because he was a dumb-shit. With great power comes great responsibility. He should not have followed the thug. Gun owners have a higher responsibility to avoid places, times, and situations where trouble could be. There you have it: Zimmerman was a dumb-shit, Martin was a piece-of-shit, and I'm really tired about hearing the whole thing everyday. :suicide:
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1000Meter, I am too tired of hearing about it.
Nobody and I mean nobody is talking about this trial around here in NE. The only time I hear about it is on the National news.
Will there be riots in the large "urban" cities if the verdict comes in guilty or not guilty...Maybe. However, I believe in the American people to say, "Yeah it may suck BUT Zimmerman is not guilty."
There are area's of the country I worry about either way. Milwaukee, Atlanta, Philadelphia, St. Louis, and parts of Florida who might go retard.
I worry for: Burt & Crudos, Rah, Gap & EJR, Stockpile, RvR, Colombo & Sledge. Watch your backs guys...
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I'm working a part time security job while I get this business up and going. It's at Mel Fisher's Treasure Museum in Sebastian. We had "Kill The Crackers" spray painted in black paint all over the side of the building Sunday night. What a mess. I'm shocked someone feels that much hatred for saltines, grahams, and Ritz crackers. They must have choked while eating a cracker at some point in their past or something. When the trial is over I think that I will go down to the Walmart Supercenter and watch the excitement on the cracker aisle. :popcorn:
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:lmfao: Oh man Sledge!
Now we all know I have a permanent tin foil tricorned hat affixed on my head BUT...I think the media is hoping for an American Summer due to the Zimmerman decision.
It will be up to the good Lord as to what happens. Either way we will be prepared. ;)
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I think you are right JM. We'll see how it goes. I've thought about driving over to Ft. Pierce after the trial comes out and passing out Ritz crackers to everyone I meet. But then I decided against it.
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WOW Sledge what a great idea! The question is if Ritz is the correct cracker. :dance:
You might not be as well received giving out a Ritz cracker; maybe Triscuit, graham or saltine cracker would be more appropriate.
We will have to check with Emily Post. ;)
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I dunno sledgie, those baked ritz chips in the different flavors are awesome! Must have an addictive chemical in them. That's why I call 'em "crack chips." :whip:
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So there you have it...Not Guilty.
Not guilty by 6 women. Some of the jurors were mom's too so I am sure they were empathetic to Martin's mom's loss.
I am sure a civil suit will follow now. The only good thing out of that will be - The lawyers will make money. :facepalm:
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So there you have it...Not Guilty.
Not guilty by 6 women. Some of the jurors were mom's too so I am sure they were empathetic to Martin's mom's loss.
I am sure a civil suit will follow now. The only good thing out of that will be - The lawyers will make money. :facepalm:
As I understand it, in Florida (as with my state) you are no liable after found innocent in a criminal trial. Though Martin's family already got a hefty payout from the home-owner's association.
I am proud to be an American today, that a jury delivered justice, when so many wanted them not to.
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I might sound like a mean asshole for this, buuuuuut,
Who really cares about this anyway? The kid is dead, D E A D dead. No amount of charges and trials will bring him back. I can understand the want for "justice", but the fact of the matter is this doesn't effect us (minus the whole rioting/civil disturbance which could for some).
Why do people care about this when there are much bigger, more important issues that effect us daily? I don't see people out in the streets because of the NSA spying program. I don't see people rioting over the huuuuge reliance we have upon fossil fuels. Where are the people protesting en mass about how many chemicals are put in our food now?
That's my little rant. As you can see I'm more of a fan of going after the shit that actually matters lol.
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All good points Frosty.
As I wrote earlier, nobody is talking about this case in my neck of the woods other than the media - Where it is non-stop. So my radio has stayed to stations with music not news and/ or commentary.
The big news up at the cabin is the new calf called Liberty. He was born to our neighbors Guernsey cow on Independence day. So now they have a new bull Highlander and Guernsey all within about 35 days.
The other big news is that the turkey's are growing well, they didn't loose the apples in the late frost; haying is going well with few machinery breakdowns and the wheat is growing like a weed. Oh and Barry is an incompetent nincompoop. Almost forgot that one :fuckYeah:
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Don't get me started on Barry.
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You mean Mr. Setero?
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I'm with 1KM on this one. I don't think Zimmerman had justification to follow Martin, since he didn't see Martin do anything wrong. Seems like he was profiling, and while that can be a useful tool, I don't think it justifies following someone. If I was walking down the street in a black neighborhood, and a random black guy sitting in a car started following me, I'd feel threatened. Martin is dead now, and cannot defend himself, so we only have Zimmerman's and bystanders' accounts of the incident. I do feel that Zimmerman, by getting out of his vehicle with the specific intention of following Martin, did provide the first spark in escalating tensions that led to Martin straddling and beating Zimmerman, and Zimmerman drawing and firing his pistol. I do not believe that Zimmerman meant for things to escalate nearly to that level, but I do not see how he had any business following a guy just walking down the street.
If there had been other things in Zimmerman's mind, such as recent serious crimes (robberies, thefts, assaults, whatever) in his neighborhood by black males, then perhaps profiling would have been enough to follow, at a distance, just to make sure Martin didn't suddenly disappear into someone's yard. Unless Martin did something illegal, he had every right to walk down the street unmolested by Zimmerman physically or emotionally. I would have voted manslaughter if I had been on the jury, if everything I just described is how the incident actually happened.
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Not guilty
Riots in the streets for the win. :fuckYeah:
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Crudos you have a point.
I think if he is found not guilty the DOJ is going to swoop in and charge him with a federal hate crime. Drone Holder is out there flying around at 10,000' just waiting.
Harry Reid on Zimmerman Verdict 'I Think the D.O.J. Is Going to Take a Look (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7D1J7W9EZ4#ws)
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Holder is a murderer and a hypocrite. Anyway, I don't expect the African-American community up here in North Dakota to riot - they all have jobs. :dancingGrenade:
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There are black people in North Dakota? :o
BTW: I voted not guilty and I was right, but only because I voted after the verdict had come out. :thumbsUp:
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I hear the police have gone full retard in L.A. and that the fine folks of the People's Republic are out in the streets blocking traffic and throwing rocks.
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I hear the police have gone full retard in L.A. and that the fine folks of the People's Republic are out in the streets blocking traffic and throwing rocks.
Interesting. Credible source? All I found was liberal misdirection.
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So Cal forum members any update?
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I think there is alot of intentional misdirection on this subject.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-trayvon-zimmerman-protests-20130715,0,6433064.story (http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-trayvon-zimmerman-protests-20130715,0,6433064.story)
KTLA live tv news....
http://ktla.com/live/ (http://ktla.com/live/)
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LIke what Crudos? The KTLA site you posted is just commercial after commercial.
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LIke what Crudos? The KTLA site you posted is just commercial after commercial.
The link is for the live feed, so you have to watch when KTLA is broadcasting (broadcast times listed on the website) or search for stories that already aired by typing in buzz words like "zimmerman" in the search function on the website.
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So Cal forum members any update?
update: I need to move :facepalm: :suicide:
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Yeah, believe it or not ND has black people. A lot of them (especially in Minot) are legal immigrants from Africa 1st generation. They have various jobs with contractors or work the oilfields. Some folks have also come over from Europe to work as well. You wouldn't think it, but their are folks from all over the world here. Some come from the depressed parts of America. The only aspect of ND I don't like so far is that the food sucks ass. I was joking with my boss the other day and said, "How is it possible there are any fat people in North Dakota?"
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Thanks thatGirl! Still figuring this whole internet thing out ;)
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This article pretty much sums up my thoughts on this situation:
http://ericpetersautos.com/2013/07/17/thoughts-about-saint-trayvon/ (http://ericpetersautos.com/2013/07/17/thoughts-about-saint-trayvon/)
The one-sided racialism and non-thought I hear endlessly about Saint Trayvon is literally boggling.
We?re supposed to accept that Zimmerman was a hater of blacks despite all the evidence to the contrary* ? meanwhile, Saint Trayvon (and his acolytes) can openly refer to non-blacks as ?crackers? ? on live TV! ? and receive polite attention from the likes of Piers Morgan, et al.
We?re supposed to be ?concerned? that Zimmerman would ?profile? a young black guy dressed in a hoodie wandering through his neighborhood? even though the odds of any given young black guy dressed in a hoodie (and so on) actually being a criminal are very high given that this demographic is disproportionately involved in criminal activity relative to its numbers. In other words, it is not ?racist? (mindless, irrational prejudice) to be more suspicious of a young black male who looks and acts a certain way.
It is rational ? and reasonable.
Just as it is rational and reasonable (i.e., to make inferences based on evidence) when one ?profiles? two well-scrubbed young white guys in white dress shirts and black slacks riding their bicycles up your driveway. It?s a good bet they?re Mormon missionaries.
There is no malignant intent involved in such (or similar) evaluations. Certainly no harm done (hurt feelings don?t count). No aggression has been committed ? and so, no one?s rights have been violated.
Yes, it is unfortunate that decent young black men are caught up in this, but that fact in no way impugns the legitimate fear based on actual facts that people have of young black men ? especially when they fit the profile. And Saint Trayvon ? not the cute kid in the dated photo endlessly recycled by a viciously dishonest news media, but Saint Trayvon as he actually appeared that night ? fit the profile. Thug clothes. Thug gold teeth and tats. But most of all, thug attitude and responses. He physically assaulted Zimmerman ? probably because he felt ?disrespected? (odious ghetto malaprop). This is what led to the tragedy. Not Zimmerman?s entirely reasonable ?profiling? of Saint Trayvon.Trayvon 2 That entailed no violence ? a critical point. Zimmerman was simply checking out a person he had reason to believe might be up to no good.
Saint Trayvon may have found this insulting. I sympathize with that. He certainly had every right to ask Zimmerman why he was following him. Even to curse him. Ideally, he should have just walked away. But until Zimmerman laid hands on him ? and there is no evidence that happened ? Saint Trayvon had no right to do anything more. Because no one has the right to initiate physical violence against another person.
Yet his defenders (for example, the creator of The Wire; see here) believe, apparently, that it is an acceptable thing for a ?disrespected? young black to physically lash out ? to beat a man who has not attacked him to a bloody pulp ? and that it is not acceptable for the object of this abuse to physically defend himself.
This is quite something. All benefit of the doubt is given the attacker ? Saint Trayvon. All doubt is cast on his victim, Zimmerman.
Zimmerman is supposed to have accepted his earned (as Saint Trayvon?s defenders see it) beat-down for even thinking that a young black man wandering through the neighborhood might be up to something and looking into it . . . and meanwhile, Zimmerman is not entitled to assume the worst about the unknown man assaulting him (as if, in mid-scuffle, Zimmerman could possibly discern the difference between 17-year-old but athletic and 6ft 3 Saint Trayvon on his chest, pounding his face in, and an 18-year-old doing the pounding in). That his life could not possibly be in danger from the unknown, but gold-toothed, thug-dressed and (obviously) thug-acting 6ft 3 young man bashing his head into the concrete? that his unknown assailant would never kill him? never find his gun and use it to shoot him? oh no. To even think such thoughts is ? cue cards up ? racist.
Lying there on the ground, with a physically superior man on top of him and wailing away, Zimmerman ? as Saint Trayon?s defenders view things ? had no cause (much less right) to resort to using that gun to defend himself. He was the aggressor. For daring to think that a young black man wandering through the neighborhood might possibly be up to no good ? because it is thought-crime to allow the datum that young black men are disproportionately involved in criminal acts to enter into any judgment, even something as harmless as heightened suspicion. That was ? and is ? Zimmerman?s crime most of all ? in the view of post-racial racists. Unfortunate ? and yes, ugly ? facts (but facts nonetheless) must be suppressed. We are all supposed to pretend that ? kumbaya ? young black men who dress and act a certain way are no more worthy of suspicion or fear than old white ladies pruning petunias.
It is a farce ? and one that?s rapidly growing stale.
Saint Trayvon is dead not because George Zimmerman was an itchy-triggered racist but because Saint Trayvon was a belligerent thug with a hair-trigger temper and flying fists. Kids on a Skittles run don?t cold-cock adults who?ve done them no physical harm ? much less bash their heads into the concrete.
That?s what thugs do.
People aren?t out to get blacks. They?re just getting sick of black thugs and their enablers and apologists. Tired of the idiot demagoguery of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, who feed off human misery ? and human ignorance ? like maggots off a corpse.
Enough already.
Throw it in the Woods?
* Zimmerman mentored young blacks; he also publicly protested what he considered to be the maltreatment of a black man at the hands of the police. There is not only no evidence that Zimmerman bore race-hatred toward blacks, there is much evidence to the contrary. The vile Al Sharpton ? a person who should have been excommunicated from civil society 20 years ago ? knew all this before he began his vicious campaign of race-baiting against Zimmerman.
* Zimmerman was a mentor to young black kids; he led a protest against the police after a homeless black man was the object of excessive use of force by police.
(http://ericpetersautos.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Trayvon-257x300.jpg)
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Thanks for that post, special-k. I didn't know those last two facts about Zimmerman.
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Look up the recipe for "lean." Looks like TM was buying the ingredients when all this crap went down.
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AFTERBURNER w/ BILL WHITTLE: The Lynching (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebu6Yvzs4Ls#ws)
Similar to what I heard and he doesnt go into detail to support some claims but he does state that he is trying to get through this quickly.
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WOW! :thumbsUp:
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Well a Kid is dead, from all reports he was a Punk, Zimmerman, well he was and is an Idiot, so Outcome?? Al bad as I see it? lets the fools riot they will for no good reason anyhow so why not this? No news there, much bigger fish to fry for sure, good call on that!!
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