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Title: finally a hands-down winner in the AK vs AR debate
Post by: NOLA556 on February 26, 2013, 11:29:23 PM
at last someone has proven which on is superior in combat.

AR-15 VS AK-47, Solved Once and For All (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGih7eWI3E#ws)
Title: Re: finally a hands-down winner in the AK vs AR debate
Post by: thatGuy on February 27, 2013, 12:01:50 AM
Finally it's over.. anyone wanna buy an M4 or two?
Title: Re: finally a hands-down winner in the AK vs AR debate
Post by: CrystalHunter1989 on February 27, 2013, 12:17:29 AM
Finally it's over.. anyone wanna buy an M4 or two?

TWO? What's wrong with you, man? Dream big!
Title: Re: finally a hands-down winner in the AK vs AR debate
Post by: 1000meterstare on February 27, 2013, 12:24:52 AM
3 months into SHTF/WROL all those AR fanboys will be wishing they had an ak. [url=http://yoursmiles.org/p-m
Title: Re: finally a hands-down winner in the AK vs AR debate
Post by: NOLA556 on February 27, 2013, 12:33:27 AM
ah. i was waiting for a comment that was in the same caliber as the video.  :P
Title: Re: finally a hands-down winner in the AK vs AR debate
Post by: Reaver on February 27, 2013, 07:01:43 AM
 :)). " go fuck yourself Santiago "
Title: Re: finally a hands-down winner in the AK vs AR debate
Post by: JohnyMac on February 27, 2013, 08:50:14 AM
If you get a moment read the whole essay from John Mosby. Here is the link: http://mountainguerrilla.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-m16ar15m4-why-its-choice-of.html (http://mountainguerrilla.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-m16ar15m4-why-its-choice-of.html)

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...1) It's a "varmint round" and is insufficient for killing human beings. Yet, more people have been killed with the M16 than were ever killed with the M14. No shoulder-fired rifle is a magic talisman. Anyone who feeds you the line that .308 is a one-stop killing machine is lying to you. I've watched bad guys hit with multiple rounds of .308 keep coming, just like I've watched bad guys hit with 5.56 keep coming. Shot placement, shot placement, shot placement. You punch two or three or four rounds through a guy's upper thoracic cavity, hips, or head, and he IS going to stop being a threat. I don't care if you're shooting a fucking .22LR! Never, ever assume that one, or two, or three rounds is adequate. You keep shooting the motherfucker until he's on the ground, and no longer poses a threat, whether it's one round or ten rounds. Don't try and tell me that 5.56 won't kill people, I've seen it and I've done it.

2)It's not any good past 75 yards, because it loses too much velocity to ensure fracture at the cannelure. There's some truth to this. No, the round isn't going to fracture and cause massive hemorrhage at 500 yards, the way it will at 50 yards. It will create holes however. Holes mean the bad guy bleeds. Multiple holes (remember that whole thing about not expecting one round to do the job?) means he bleeds more quickly. If you're accurate with your marksmanship, he's not just bleeding, but has a punctured lung or two, a ruined femoral artery, or a broken femur. Anyone of those is going to very quickly take the fight out of anyone, with very limited exceptions (do a web search for the award citation for SSG John Wayne Walding, 7th SFG). The ability to utilize precision, aimed fire is far more critical to battlefield success than what size your penis...er...caliber...is...
Title: Re: finally a hands-down winner in the AK vs AR debate
Post by: RS762 on February 27, 2013, 12:13:26 PM
im impressed by any rifle that will simultaneously fire and eat a ham sandwich.  [url=http://yoursmiles.org/p-m
Title: Re: finally a hands-down winner in the AK vs AR debate
Post by: thatGuy on February 27, 2013, 02:41:19 PM
im impressed by any rifle that will simultaneously fire and eat a ham sandwich. 


I would have thought it would be an American rifle that could do that....  [url=http://www.freesmileys.or
Title: Re: finally a hands-down winner in the AK vs AR debate
Post by: mountainredneck2051 on February 27, 2013, 05:19:48 PM
3 months into SHTF/WROL all those AR fanboys will be wishing they had an ak.

and we will just pick them up as trophies at the end of the fight......  8)
Title: Re: finally a hands-down winner in the AK vs AR debate
Post by: WhiskeyJack on February 27, 2013, 07:04:32 PM
I dont care who you are.... Thats some funny shit. [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
Now wheres my ham sandwich?
Title: Re: finally a hands-down winner in the AK vs AR debate
Post by: 1000meterstare on February 27, 2013, 07:04:55 PM
3 words:  "Ease of maintenance."  An AR needs more lube than a pornstar! [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
Title: Re: finally a hands-down winner in the AK vs AR debate
Post by: JohnyMac on February 27, 2013, 09:32:30 PM
1000Meterstare wrote:
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An AR needs more lube than a pornstar!

O-Kay, it's time you own up the fact you were in Debbie Does Dallas II. Obviously you have a lot more experience with lube than me.

 
Title: Re: finally a hands-down winner in the AK vs AR debate
Post by: sledge on February 27, 2013, 09:38:45 PM
1000Meterstare wrote:
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An AR needs more lube than a pornstar!

O-Kay, it's time you own up the fact you were in Debbie Does Dallas II. Obviously you have a lot more experience with lube than me.

 

I lived in Dallas the entire time I was growing up and never met Debbie.  Lord knows at the time that I was sure looking for her.  She must have moved on to Philly or something.
Title: Re: finally a hands-down winner in the AK vs AR debate
Post by: 1000meterstare on February 27, 2013, 10:08:41 PM
Rifles are kinda like sex; you halfta have a large, driving piston to do it right! [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
Title: Re: finally a hands-down winner in the AK vs AR debate
Post by: Grudgie on February 27, 2013, 10:44:32 PM
I can't help but have a suspicion the video is weighted towards the ak.
Title: Re: finally a hands-down winner in the AK vs AR debate
Post by: Deathstyle on February 28, 2013, 07:13:46 PM
Rifles are kinda like sex; you halfta have a large, driving piston to do it right!

Size doesnt matter! Its about personality, trust and an emotional connection.  :'(

Anyways I was On a budget and could only afford a stripped lower before the reelection. Ill make do, buy reliable parts, stock up On lube, and train my baby to get used to motor oil if necessary.
Title: Re: finally a hands-down winner in the AK vs AR debate
Post by: thatGuy on February 28, 2013, 08:16:07 PM
Further more who give a fuck if anyone besides themselves gets off?

Don't act like you do!
Title: Re: finally a hands-down winner in the AK vs AR debate
Post by: mountainredneck2051 on February 28, 2013, 08:42:20 PM
wait, you guys actually buy gun oil?

hell i thought we were all using motor oil
Title: Re: finally a hands-down winner in the AK vs AR debate
Post by: Reaver on February 28, 2013, 09:02:09 PM
wait, you guys actually buy gun oil?

hell i thought we were all using motor oil

Lol the only time I use oil is to remove rust when I forget about and misplace a firearm.  :P

I use Grease
Title: Re: finally a hands-down winner in the AK vs AR debate
Post by: JohnyMac on March 01, 2013, 09:06:41 AM
I read somewhere that they use Mobil 1 motor oil but I forgot what viscosity. I forgot how much they applied also. I read somewhere that (Maybe Unintended Consequences) they kept their M2 Browning machine gun bolt immersed in vehicle oil until ready to use it. Then put the bolt into the MG after they had knocked off most of the oil but still pretty sloppy.     

Not that it matters; I use Pro-Gold Lubricant by Pro Shot Products. No particular reason other than it was recommended to my brother and I by a friend of his who was a small arms trainer (Contractor) in the sand box on home for some R&R. Has never failed either of us.
Title: Re: finally a hands-down winner in the AK vs AR debate
Post by: Grudgie on March 01, 2013, 09:44:57 AM
I use mobil 1. Any motor oil will do. It is the best thing I have used so far, better than CLP, rem oil, or Vaseline.
Title: Re: finally a hands-down winner in the AK vs AR debate
Post by: mountainredneck2051 on March 01, 2013, 01:22:52 PM
i got some 55 gallon barrels of used motor oil from when i spun a wrench for a living, i just dip a finger in there then wipe it all over the gun

so far no issues at all
Title: Re: finally a hands-down winner in the AK vs AR debate
Post by: goodnightChesty1775 on March 04, 2013, 07:52:22 AM
hhahhhah when he was holding the dog
Title: Re: finally a hands-down winner in the AK vs AR debate
Post by: Ghost on March 04, 2013, 04:02:50 PM
Dudes, I can settle this debate of AK v. AR.


Whatever fucking rifle you have, that's the best one. Wanna know why? Any rifle is better than NO rifle.

That said, as a Canadian, I can't legally own an AK (and I don't have an AR yet), so y'all don't need to listen to my shit lol.
Title: Re: finally a hands-down winner in the AK vs AR debate
Post by: mountainredneck2051 on March 04, 2013, 10:23:28 PM
That said, as a Canadian, I can't legally own an AK (and I don't have an AR yet), so y'all don't need to listen to my shit lol.

we never do.......







 :P
Title: Re: finally a hands-down winner in the AK vs AR debate
Post by: thatGuy on March 05, 2013, 12:11:26 PM
That said, as a Canadian, I can't legally own an AK (and I don't have an AR yet), so y'all don't need to listen to my shit lol.

we never do.......









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