Post Presidential Election - Time to Heal

[JohnyMac]

I am on a VHF net in the morning. The net meets Mon-Fri and I try to make it 2-3 times a week. I am probably the youngest person on this net. About 1/3 of the older folks live in Assisted Living facilities. Due to antenna restrictions where they live, can only use their 50, 60, 70+ year old FCC License on VHF channels (Small antennas). So I try to make it when I can to participate and ask questions of the older Elmer's.

During this morning's call I got to thinking, "Will we be able to come together post this Presidential election?" I will start to pray that we do. This group of men on the net have opinions that span the political spectrum yet meet five times a week to support each other and to promote amateur radio around the country.

I will start here because I have a great deal of respect for the UP members. Things I will do or have started:

> Not post memes of Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Johnson, Ms. Stein or Mr. Trump on FB, win or loose.
> Stop posting thoughts I might have on the above written candidates win or loose.
> Not jump in on discussions on line or in person about the "other guy/gals."
> Take off of my truck anti Obama bumper stickers.
> Et cetera.

I think it is truly time to fix any bridges that I may have had a part in burning down. Bridges over the chasm that many politicians have created in order to divide us.

[Well-Prepared Witch]

You know, that's awesome!  I saw someone post a meme that basically said "percentage of people whose minds are changed by online arguments = 0%".    We definitely need to come together if we're going to be able to support each other through whatever may come.

[JohnyMac]

I agree Wellie.

Here's the deal. All Americans have A LOT more in common amongst ourselves than differences. I think that politicians and many of the Elite in DC purposely drive wedges between us for their gain.

The word "bully" has been used often in this election. Well I think when we post items that could misrepresent our small differences is actually bullying. I am now coining it "bullying by proxy."

I will still post my opinion but will not belittle the opposite opinion of mine. My opinion will be based on facts if I have them or I will say "it is my opinion." During my post I will strive to keep it civil and if the opposing view doesn't, I will just move on.

In closing, I am not sorry to write that we are in for some tough times ahead, whomever is voted into the office of President, Senator, Representative or dog catcher. Lets attempt to give those people our support and if warranted our respectful criticism.

Yes a bit  however something to think about today, seven days from the election.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukS-yJGj6a4

[JoJo]

Here is Delaware the day after the election winners and losers get together for a party and everyone is welcome to join in. Even the local media buries the hatchet. 

[Nemo]

Just to make note of it.

Nemo

www.ammoland.com/2016/10/free-webinar-civil-unrest-post-election-scenarios-preparation/


and something else to consider


http://www.ammoland.com/2016/10/call-american-spring-zombie-apocalypse-billary-bomb-coming

[JohnyMac]

Great idea JoJo. I will be there 

[gadget99]

I am with you on this one JM.



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[gadget99]

Just had a few thoughts to share on this....

The American political landscape as well as the society as a whole is so very complex.

We need to remember that whoever is President does not really matter in the whole. The President of the U.S. is a figurehead with limited true power.

The true power rests in the Congress and Senate. Or to be truthful. The true power lies with those that influence and/or control the political mechanisms in society.

So while we fear that one candidate or the other will do harm to our society. We find ourselves misdirected.

There is no good choice at the moment. Just another choice.

Our choices do not affect the true puppet-masters in reality.

We need to remember to be aware of who we need to watch.

Peace All.

[JohnyMac]

I am going to resurrect this topic for obvious reasons.

1) How half the country feels today is how I felt in 2012 the day after the election. 2008 I shrugged and I wasn't as
    worried as I became in 2012. With that written I truly do understand how folks feel this morning.

2) I have been reading a lot of things on the intrewiz today, Mrs. Clinton's supporters think that we are now entering
    into a Fourth Reich and President Elect Trumps Brown Shirts will start going door to door to check on everyone's
    papers. If his thugs find you are not a American citizen he will deport you. If he does I will stand with the Constitution
    and to be more specific the Bill of Rights, which in essence prevents this type of behavior. Of course we have had two
    Presidents that did lock up German Americans (WW I Wilson) and Japanese Americans (WW II FDR) in concentration
    camps, so I guess any thing is possible. If it does happen I will stand with those people in opposition of such a
    drama.

3) Now Trump needs to reach across the divide that many Elites in Washington on both sides of the aisle, has caused.
    Can he do it? Will he be fought by the aforementioned Elites. Only time will tell.

In closing I want to state that I do not like the man however I like many of the things he campaigned on. So in essence I like the message not messenger. BUT, I will watch him like a hawk and if tries to go around the US Constitution or Bill of Rights I will scream to high heavens.

Peace.

[Nemo]

Yeps, my only question now is whatdahail do we do with this creation.   Lets just hope the bunch of them in the House, Senate and Prez can get stuff fairly close to right.

If nothing else let the snowflakes grow up and have their sensitivity melt away.

Nemo

http://www.mediaite.com/online/yale-professor-allows-students-to-skip-exam-due-to-shock-over-the-election-results/

Yale Professor Allows Students To Skip Exam Due To ‘Shock Over the Election Results’
by Justin Baragona | 10:47 am, November 9th, 2016

Apparently, the surprising victory by Donald Trump last night has caused people to react in certain ways. One of them decided that students shouldn’t be forced to take an exam as many of them would be in mourning over the results.

With the election still not called yet — but definitely heading Trump’s way — a Yale professor sent out the following email, obtained by Jon Victor, the managing editor of Yale Daily News.

    BREAKING: Yale Econ 115 professor makes midterm exam optional after students write in expressing shock about presidential election: pic.twitter.com/JQY8GFsQiV

    — Jon Victor (@jon_victor_) November 9, 2016

Rather than have the test postponed due to those upset over Trump winning and saying they feared “for their own families,” the professor made it optional, pointing to those students who prepared and sacrificed for the exam. Thus, he let the students know he would use different grading systems for those who elected to skip the test.

Trump pulled off a stunning upset of Hillary Clinton by winning contests in Florida, Ohio, Iowa, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, all states that President Obama carried in 2012. However, it appears that Clinton still won the popular vote.

[JoJo]

I am going to resurrect this topic for obvious reasons.

1) How half the country feels today is how I felt in 2012 the day after the election. 2008 I shrugged and I wasn't as
    worried as I became in 2012. With that written I truly do understand how folks feel this morning.

2) I have been reading a lot of things on the intrewiz today, Mrs. Clinton's supporters think that we are now entering
    into a Fourth Reich and President Elect Trumps Brown Shirts will start going door to door to check on everyone's
    papers. If his thugs find you are not a American citizen he will deport you. If he does I will stand with the Constitution
    and to be more specific the Bill of Rights, which in essence prevents this type of behavior. Of course we have had two
    Presidents that did lock up German Americans (WW I Wilson) and Japanese Americans (WW II FDR) in concentration
    camps, so I guess any thing is possible. If it does happen I will stand with those people in opposition of such a
    drama.

3) Now Trump needs to reach across the divide that many Elites in Washington on both sides of the aisle, has caused.
    Can he do it? Will he be fought by the aforementioned Elites. Only time will tell.

In closing I want to state that I do not like the man however I like many of the things he campaigned on. So in essence I like the message not messenger. BUT, I will watch him like a hawk and if tries to go around the US Constitution or Bill of Rights I will scream to high heavens.

Peace.

 Just a reminder. President Eisenhower deported Mexican's to save jobs for the Korean war veteran's (Operation Wetback) and Jimmy Carter  deported all Iranian's when Iran took American's hostage. It won't be necessary to deport anyone, they will go home on their own when they can no longer get freebees. 
 My fear is the Liberia Clinton/Soros MAFIA Because it includes the FBI the IRS and a number of other alphabet departments.

[Well-Prepared Witch]

I'm glad you said that JM.  A lot of people who are much smarter than I am have posted some very thoughtful essays reminding those of us who look at Trump in horror as a misogynistic, racist, lying, bigot that not everyone who voted for him is cut from the same cloth.  It's nice to know that you, at least, will stand up to protect the rights so clearly threatened by Trump's agenda.  I certainly wait to see what happens in our country. 

I was shocked, to put it mildly, when Trump won.  I woke up around 1:30 and checked my phone and couldn't go back to sleep I was so upset.  I truly, honestly fear for what this means for our country.  The acts of bigotry already occuring just one day in make the days ahead look terribly bleak.  I'm glad I'm a prepper - at least I'll have some sort of protection when things get bad.  Of course, that's assuming that things don't get bad enough that those of us who aren't Christian get targeted just for being non-Christian.  We'll see.

In the mean time, I'm trying to remind myself that the world didn't end.  It's still spinning.  The Sun rose, and will set and rise again.  The Wheel turns no matter what we foolish humans do.  I'm trying to feel my way through this new world and figure out how to reach out to those whose views are so diametrically opposed to mine, how to forgive my neighbors and associates for voting for someone I feel will destroy the soul of our nation - if it even has one left these days - and how to ensure my safety and that of my loved ones who will fall victim to the Trump/Pence agenda - my LGBTQ+, non-white, and fellow non-Christian friends.

[Erick]

 

[JoJo]

 Your first paragraph has the wrong name in it It should be Clinton and I think you should read a few hundred thousand e-mails before you call on people smarter than you to tell you what to think.
 Good fences make good neighbors and wanting to put  Americans first in their own country is not racist or bigoted.  To deny that drug dealers, murders, rapists and those with communicably diseases  don't come to this country is very naive. Look what open boarders has done to Europe, military age men by the thousands entered. Sweden has built a fence. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3383612/Sweden-launches-Berlin-Wall-Denmark-desperate-bid-halt-tide-migrant-arrivals-orders-travellers-ID-time-50-years.html are they racists or just trying to protect their country's sovereignty.
 Getting to my first response, all I was doing was reminding everyone that it is not unusual to deport people to save jobs for Americans. If you reread it you will see it was both a republican and a democrat that did it. 
 
   

[Jackalope]

I listened to a lot of NPR radio today while traveling, due to a lack of other stations available.  After listening to their progressive leaning broadcast, I'm thinking that the divide between the left and right is as large as ever.  I heard several ladies actively crying, and they mentioned that their teenaged daughters are terrified for their future under Trump.  I'm listening to this while shaking my head and I'm thinking that Trump must have a thing for sacrificing teenaged girls or something.  From their comments, I don't see any healing happening any time soon.  Hopefully, Trump will make a great effort of reconciliation, but I'm thinking he's not going to have any honeymoon period, and I hope he jumps on the mandates he promised during his campaign. 
      The past eight years have not been good for many Americans, especially when certain classes of people, such as the illegal immigrants are not subject to laws.