Thanks for the explaination, but it wasn't neccessary. I already understood what your were saying. 
You make assumptions about why people in the past have voted R or for that matter D. Like they had a better choice. They voted for what they thought was the best candidate that was available. Perhaps not the best that could have been out there. But the best available between the choices they had in the voting booth. By the way, I call all of the extreme minority of people who do actually vote patriotic, regardless of whom they vote for.
You might want to reconsider your view that anyone who doesn't vote the way you want them to is unpatriotic. That's more of a dictatorial view. The do it my way or you're an asshole, because I'm right and your wrong, because I know best approach is something we normally see from the extreme left. I'm starting to recognize that there are extreme views on all sides of the political spectrum.
No, due to your reply I see that you have NO IDEA what I'm talking about and have taken my post, completely out of context and added your own bias to what I said, and completely missed the point. (Which I guess is to be expected) and even dared to stain my good name and conscience by saying my view was Dictatorial. That's probably the worst thing that anyone could call me, as its completely misconstruing my point and is completely a strawman to my point . I see you're still not getting me or my view. Maybe its a reading or bias problem, or maybe you said it just trying to get a rise out of me, or maybe you really just misunderstand the words that I write that much, I just have no idea.
So you're saying that I'm incorrect? That when we vote for R or D, that we don't get more Socialism, and I think I'm starting to see your point. Do you really believe that there is no better choice out there than R and D? Well you better do some research, because there certainly are better choices out there that you may want to find and research. A much better place you could put your votes on the local, state, and even federal level in some cases. I'll be honest, I won't hold your hand and lead you there, because I don't think even if I lead you there, that you would drink the water, some like the taste of Kool-Aid.
Its just come to my understanding that the vast majority of Americans DO NOT WANT FREEDOM. They love being a slave to the state, they need it, they want it, THEY LOVE IT! They love being told what to do, they need to be told what to do, the need to live their life in some government controlled little box and they want to FORCE, by government force and guns, for ALL OF US to live inside this same government controlled little box, this same government controlled little chains. Some people love their chains and even vote for MORE CHAINS. I find that MOST people in the world love their chains, and also, the idea of real freedom and liberty scares the shit out of them, and they always go running back for more big mama nanny government to take care of them because of fear.
I see people that love their chains as stupid, yes I do. I call a slave very stupid indeed. It would be better to try and either kill or be killed by your owner than to be a slave, and yet people continue voting for either R and D, even though they continue to add on more chains and more chains everytime one is elected.
"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give me Liberty, or give me Death!" - Patrick Henry
Do you believe that the majority of Americas would really kill and or die in the process if they fail to actually achieve the amount of freedom and liberty that our founding fathers envisioned us having when the created this amazing country?
If they did, WE WOULDN'T BE IN THE SITUATION WE ARE IN. We would either have freedom, or we would have all died trying. What we have right now is not freedom in America, it is soft tyranny.
Please prove to me how this two party system, either R or D, has not given us more Authoritarianism and Socialism, along with a completely willing complicit populace.
I don't really think the way that we vote right now is anywhere near the way our Founding Fathers envisioned our presidential process would go. You do know that there were a lot of times there were MULTIPLE Parties running candidates, not just two or three. This ridiculous R or D, two party system is what has given us the state of our Nation today. The two party system is not freedom of choice, its not freedom at all, its our road to slavery and a Socialist Police State. We should have more than just the choice of R or D or I/L. We should have A LOT more choices than that when voting. Our whole voting system on the state level needs to be moved back to how it was, and the R and D's need to stop making laws that make it impossible for a different party with different ideas of freedom and liberty to EVER get elected.
The world has never had a good definition of the word liberty, and the American people, just now, are much in want of one. We all declare for liberty; but in using the same word we do not all mean the same thing. With some the word liberty may mean for each man to do as he pleases with himself, and the product of his labor; while with others the same word may mean for some men to do as they please with other men, and the product of other men?s labor. Here are two, not only different, but incompatable things, called by the same name?liberty. And it follows that each of the things is, by the respective parties, called by two different and incompatable names?liberty and tyranny. -Abraham Lincoln
You see, the Republican's believe in freedom, they believe in people's freedom to have government FORCE everyone to have their exact morals.
Also, its quite humorous that you are trying to discredit what I'm saying by saying that I have a Dictatorial view, that's completely absurd and false slanderous statement, and you could not be more wrong about what I would want for a government. A "Dictatorial View" as you say would be, "You will vote the way I want you to vote, because if not, I'll either shoot you, kill you, imprison you, because I know better, and I'm always right."
I WOULD NEVER FORCE ANYONE TO DO ANYTHING AND I SURE AS HELL WOULD NOT VOTE IN GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS AND THEN GET THEM TO DO THE ENFORCEMENT OF MY MORALS FOR ME. I FIND IT EXTREMELY DISGUSTING AND ABHORRENT AT BEST.
I find it disgusting that people use our government to force their views and morals onto everybody else, even if I agree with those morals.
Now prove to me how anything that I said sounds like a Dictatorial View. If anything you would know that you can only deal with human beings in two way, Reason or Force. I do NOT want to force ANYONE to do ANYTHING. I would much rather deal with everyone, using reason in EVERY circumstance, and only have government there to enforce contracts between people, make sure that our Constitutional rights are upheld (which they are not doing), and make sure that anyone who denies another person of their life, liberty, and property, is punished. That is really about all that I want out of my government.
In fact, I NEVER want my government to initiate force against any American citizen unless one of those three things occurs.
Now who's position sounds more Dictatorial? Mine or the Republican Party's Patriot Act, Firearm Owners Protection Act, and their unwavering support of the Authoritarian and Totalitarian failed War on Drugs, ect.
Please explain to me how MY VIEW is more Dictatorial than the Republican party's views and policies. Please, I beg you.
Your attempt at trying to paint my view as Dictatorial disgusts me to a point I don't think I've ever been disgusted before.
