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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: leadpersuasion on February 25, 2012, 07:25:48 PM
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I just saw Act of Valor.......it fucking rocked! 5 STARS gentlemen! These guys really take foot to ass and represent the Special Operations Community on a very high level. Can't wait to buy on Blu ray! [url=http://www.freesmileys.or
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Yeah, I want to see that movie. Everyone that has says it rocks!
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Wasted my money on the grey.
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so whens the video game of it gonna come out?
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Wasted my money on the grey.
Word yo! [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
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yeah i just saw it too.. pretty good... i even learnt me a new trick... panty hose over the bell of the scope to hide flash.. [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at why didnt i think of that...
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Saw it yesterday myself.
Good movie. [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
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EJR and I just took the wives to see it, it was pretty good. [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
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EJR and I just took the wives to see it, it was pretty good.
I bet you made them think they were gonna see "The Vow" instead huh? ;D (http://www.smileyvault.co
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Wasted my money on the grey.
Word yo! [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
I loved the grey, you guys are crazy.
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Wasted my money on the grey.
Word yo! [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
I loved the grey, you guys are crazy.
Agreed. The Grey was awesome. One of the few movies I'll make space for in my bluray/dvd collection.
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But you didn't like Act of Valor.
We sure to disagree on a lot of stuff brother. [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
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But you didn't like Act of Valor.
We sure to disagree on a lot of stuff brother. [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
I liked parts of it. The cinematography was really good. Certain components of the movie just didn't make it flow as I said before. If they would've gotten one more headshot in the fricking movie I would have screamed and kicked the person in front of me in the head. And the guy at the end? Tom Cruise isn't even that bullet resistant. And realism? Those headshots would've split some craniums to all hell. Music like I said was off at times. I guess what I should say is, coming from Navy SEALs trying to portray real life warfare, my expectations were A LOT higher.
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I cannot seem to find it now, but I read an article about some Marines brought up to trial for suspected execution of some insurgents due to how many headshots were taken during the initial phase of the war. Further investigation showed they were just excellent marksmen.
As for the dude taking a lot of rounds. You did notice that he will probably never walk again, or use is right arm. Did you notice he saluted with his left?
Dragon Skin? Body Armor (Part 1 of 2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYaSRIbPWkM#)
Dragon Skin? Body Armor (Part 2 of 2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_HRQNd84ZA#ws)
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i wonder if dragon skin could stop a 308 m855 sabot?
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i wonder if dragon skin could stop a 308 m855 sabot?
I dunno bro, I've seen that shit punch through an I beam so....
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i wonder if dragon skin could stop a 308 m855 sabot?
I dunno bro, I've seen that shit punch through an I beam so....
you lit the fire bro
as soon as i find an ar500 plate at a decent price........
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lol, how many have you pumped out?
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lol, how many have you pumped out?
couple hundred
so far i have fucked up some rotors off a dodge truck, so i am fairly confident it will go through dragon skin
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I told you that stuff was awesome.
You should cronograph it for me. [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
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I told you that stuff was awesome.
You should cronograph it for me.
i'm trying to get the gf to borrow the cronograph from the gunstore where she works
when i do [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co (http://www.smileyvault.co
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roger that. I'm expecting Mid 3-low-5
Molten steel hauling ass does awesome things huh?
Same concept as an EFP and that's about the only thing that can defeat American Armored Vehicles
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Research shows the 55 grain tungsten version doing 4200 FPS
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roger that. I'm expecting Mid 3-low-5
Molten steel hauling ass does awesome things huh?
Same concept as an EFP and that's about the only thing that can defeat American Armored Vehicles
some day i'll find a way to make one with a 50bmg [url=http://www.freesmileys.or
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A family friend of mine was actually doing that in Vietnam. They were experimenting with a .30 bullet launched from a .50 caliber gun.
the problem is they were going so fast they would just shred the bullet.
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When another country's folks set off explosives we call it terrorism. When we do it we call it "special operations." I am disgusted at what the Special Operations Command has mutated into. Their initial purpose was "to free the oppressed." Now they are the tip of the spear for Empire and coercion. Continue thumping your chests if you want to - makes me wanna phucking puke.
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When another country's folks set off explosives we call it terrorism. When we do it we call it "special operations." I am disgusted at what the Special Operations Command has mutated into. Their initial purpose was "to free the oppressed." Now they are the tip of the spear for Empire and coercion. Continue thumping your chests if you want to - makes me wanna phucking puke.
agreed
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Again with the empire? [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
I'm not thumping my chest, nor did I say attacking another country is good.
But IF what happened in the movie was true. Those men ARE heroes.
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Back in the day Special Operations was the military version of the Peace Corps. They helped and trained more people than they killed. Now it's the other way around. [img]http://bestsmileys.com/ar
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When another country's folks set off explosives we call it terrorism. When we do it we call it "special operations." I am disgusted at what the Special Operations Command has mutated into. Their initial purpose was "to free the oppressed." Now they are the tip of the spear for Empire and coercion. Continue thumping your chests if you want to - makes me wanna phucking puke.
When another country sets off explosives it's called an act of war. When an independent or sponsored group does it that's called terrorism. The SOC has never had the function of freeing the oppressed masses. (captives at times) Maybe you're thinking of some Army Special Forces missions. Yes, they are the tip of the spear many times. Followed closely by things that go boom in the night. Their main function is intel and target elimination to weaken those considered the enemy.
They follow orders. If you don't approve of the orders they're given, that's what elections are for man. But don't crap on those guys. They, in many cases, take unbelievable risks to follow those orders.
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eh.... could we not have this discussion today? I had my fill of issuing warning for the month.
Not to say you guys are being turds but it will get there soon enough.
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I'm gonna go ahead and weigh in on this "movie" ... first off this was orginaly going to be a recruiting for the navy and instead they turned it into a movie. So now doubt is a bunch of over the top bullshit .... With that being said
I will not ever see this movie. I can't stand the seals and its all 100% personal.
My wifes ex husband was apart of seal team 6 ( I saw the fucking paperwork ) .. I hated that man and the shit he put my wife threw... So I'm not saying that i think the seals are not badass. Cause they are. they do there job like most of everyone else in the military. and yea they are hardcore. But........
I will not want anything to do with them based off of what i have seen out of them thus far. I know it is stupid and it may make me narrow minded but I DON'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK!!
I stood toe two toe with that asshole. Took and threw plenty of fists..... They are not that elite imho
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I stood toe two toe with that asshole. Took and threw plenty of fists..... They are not that elite imho
i've seen those "elite" get the shit knocked out of them by 40 year old guy
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I'm not trying to be a smart ass. I'm sure her ex was an asshole to her. I've never thought special ops people should be married for a number of reasons. I will say this. Seals are not taught to trade blows or even consider doing so, period. If he was in fact a SEAL, and you were in a hand to hand confrontation with him for over 6 seconds he wasn't trying to kill or maim you. That's just a fact. They are very aggressive in moving in close and there isn't any arms reach stuff going on.
I'm not saying they can't be defeated. But don't underestimate them.
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I jumped with SEALS back in the day when a detachment of them came to Bragg for joint training. Seriously not impressed. I had to rig a SEAL Lieutentant's single point release on his rucksack because he didn't know how. They did free-falls and weren't used to static-line jumps and equipment. Anybody can free-fall. A real man goes static line - basically it is a controlled crash. Major reason I had a hip replacement at the tender age of 42. Paratroopers RULE BABY!!!
P.S. Kudos to Fuel Hogg for getting Airborne in his contract, hope you make it through Airborne School. It takes a special breed... [url=http://www.freesmileys.or
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I'm not trying to be a smart ass. I'm sure her ex was an asshole to her. I've never thought special ops people should be married for a number of reasons. I will say this. Seals are not taught to trade blows or even consider doing so, period. If he was in fact a SEAL, and you were in a hand to hand confrontation with him for over 6 seconds he wasn't trying to kill or maim you. That's just a fact. They are very aggressive in moving in close and there isn't any arms reach stuff going on.
I'm not saying they can't be defeated. But don't underestimate them.
Could it also be the man was a piece of shit
The fight was much longer then 6 seconds and I had a black eye and a busted nose
But he had 4 broken fingers a broken ARM and a detached sholder... I also spent then night in jail to boot... I'm also a combat marine and in love with a women that he put in the hospital .....
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I jumped with SEALS back in the day when a detachment of them came to Bragg for joint training. Seriously not impressed. I had to rig a SEAL Lieutentant's single point release on his rucksack because he didn't know how. They did free-falls and weren't used to static-line jumps and equipment. Anybody can free-fall. A real man goes static line - basically it is a controlled crash. Major reason I had a hip replacement at the tender age of 42. Paratroopers RULE BABY!!!
P.S. Kudos to Fuel Hogg for getting Airborne in his contract, hope you make it through Airborne School. It takes a special breed...
Yeah SEAL's are pussies. LOL! Whatever guys.
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I'm not saying they are not badass. They are pretty hardcore. But i just dont like them for the one seal i have met
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Could it also be the man was a piece of shit
The fight was much longer then 6 seconds and I had a black eye and a busted nose
But he had 4 broken fingers a broken ARM and a detached sholder... I also spent then night in jail to boot... I'm also a combat marine and in love with a women that he put in the hospital .....
Oh, he was definitely a piece of shit. You'd be surprised at how many SO guys are in relationships. Their divorce rates are off the charts.
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Guys, it's a movie. Opinions will vary. I'm not sure whether to tell some people to suck it up or apologize for being critical of the stupid thing. Either way, it's a phucking movie, and the fact that some are getting bent out of shape over it goes to show how polarized this little community here is. No one here is going to beat "It was a realistic depiction of SEALs and war." into my head. Likewise I'm NOT going to hook anyone up to a car battery, some jumper cables and some wet sponges and shock them until they say it sucked. Again, it was a movie. Other than some nice shots of military hardware the movie wasn't realistic and was filled with propaganda.
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Guys, it's a movie. Opinions will vary. I'm not sure whether to tell some people to suck it up or apologize for being critical of the stupid thing. Either way, it's a phucking movie, and the fact that some are getting bent out of shape over it goes to show how polarized this little community here is. No one here is going to beat "It was a realistic depiction of SEALs and war." into my head. Likewise I'm NOT going to hook anyone up to a car battery, some jumper cables and some wet sponges and shock them until they say it sucked. Again, it was a movie. Other than some nice shots of military hardware the movie wasn't realistic and was filled with propaganda.
Ok then . Thank you sir for bringing this back on topic after my complaining.
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Who's getting bent out of shape? Fuel are you or 1000 getting pissed? I'm not and I wasn't trying to piss anyone off. If I did I apologize.
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Point is I'm not going to have to hook anyone up to my car battery now am I? AM I!?
Sledge you take me to seriously sometimes. It's okay though. Knowing you have to get out your bifocals just to read this slightly smaller print makes it worth my while. :P
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Did a counterdrug thing at Truman Annex (JTF-4) in Key West, Florida 1991. There was a static-line water jump available and extra chutes available. I tried to strap-hang but the SEALS were too snobby and too good to let me jump with them. I was fully qualified and trained for that type of jump. Inter-service cooperation? I could have sharpened my training but they wouldn't have it. [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
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Who's getting bent out of shape? Fuel are you or 1000 getting pissed? I'm not and I wasn't trying to piss anyone off. If I did I apologize.
Nope not in the least. I was just expressing my narrowminded point of view on the topic. And why it will be very bias due to previous history.
I know I should of probly just let it go and not said anything, but anytime i see the seals glorifyed it makes my blood boil. again ..im bias sorry gents but that's me being the fool that i am
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Point is I'm not going to have to hook anyone up to my car battery now am I? AM I!?
Sledge you take me to seriously sometimes. It's okay though. Knowing you have to get out your bifocals just to read this slightly smaller print makes it worth my while. :P
You phucker! You've got a mean streak in you. LOL!
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Rage, rage, against the dying of the light.
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Point is I'm not going to have to hook anyone up to my car battery now am I? AM I!?
Sledge you take me to seriously sometimes. It's okay though. Knowing you have to get out your bifocals just to read this slightly smaller print makes it worth my while. :P
You phucker! You've got a mean streak in you. LOL!
Yeah and a little sake for good measure. Kan pie (cheers) gentlemen.
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It is Ganbei. Cheers! [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
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Did a counterdrug thing at Truman Annex (JTF-4) in Key West, Florida 1991. There was a static-line water jump available and extra chutes available. I tried to strap-hang but the SEALS were too snobby and too good to let me jump with them. I was fully qualified and trained for that type of jump. Inter-service cooperation? I could have sharpened my training but they wouldn't have it.
I agree with you. When they get pinned they get a snobby attitude. (An, oh yeah, we're bad kind of thing.) It usually wears off when they get in a hot zone with you. Funny how that works.
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Did a counterdrug thing at Truman Annex (JTF-4) in Key West, Florida 1991. There was a static-line water jump available and extra chutes available. I tried to strap-hang but the SEALS were too snobby and too good to let me jump with them. I was fully qualified and trained for that type of jump. Inter-service cooperation? I could have sharpened my training but they wouldn't have it.
I agree with you. When they get pinned they get a snobby attitude. (An, oh yeah, we're bad kind of thing.) It usually wears off when they get in a hot zone with you. Funny how that works.
Funny how that works huh ? [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
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It is Ganbei. Cheers! Nah brother that's the Chinese. Japanese it's spelled kanpai I believe.....or something like that. (http://www.smileyvault.co
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Sorry, dude. I spoke better Mandarin years ago but I am getting rusty now.
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Sorry, dude. I spoke better Mandarin years ago but I am getting rusty now.
I took Japanese in high school for a year than switch to German. Then French. Objected to Spanish on the principle alone. Needless to say I only speak enough Japanese to sound like a complete tourist. My German can be convincing though in small talk. French? Screw it. You can probably just speak with a lisp and get by.
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i wonder if dragon skin could stop a 308 m855 sabot?
I dunno bro, I've seen that shit punch through an I beam so....
you lit the fire bro
as soon as i find an ar500 plate at a decent price........
i have 3/8 ar500 plate... pretty much no caliber will go through it... .308 does almost nothing to it...and ive seen 338 hits... bassically no damage to the plate at all.
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i wonder if dragon skin could stop a 308 m855 sabot?
I dunno bro, I've seen that shit punch through an I beam so....
you lit the fire bro
as soon as i find an ar500 plate at a decent price........
Where do you get these plates?
i have 3/8 ar500 plate... pretty much no caliber will go through it... .308 does almost nothing to it...and ive seen 338 hits... bassically no damage to the plate at all.
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Fuel hog i found mine in the desert..for some unknown reason a guy was target shooting and either forgot it or was too lazy to huff it back to his vehicle... it was a human shaped target, i had it cut up into smaller rounds. they also have group buys on sniper forums for pretty cheap.
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Fuel hog i found mine in the desert..for some unknown reason a guy was target shooting and either forgot it or was too lazy to huff it back to his vehicle... it was a human shaped target, i had it cut up into smaller rounds. they also have group buys on sniper forums for pretty cheap.
you want to loan me a piece?
to prove a sabot wont take it down?
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Fuel hog i found mine in the desert..for some unknown reason a guy was target shooting and either forgot it or was too lazy to huff it back to his vehicle... it was a human shaped target, i had it cut up into smaller rounds. they also have group buys on sniper forums for pretty cheap.
you want to loan me a piece?
to prove a sabot wont take it down?
just send me shipping fare and its yours
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WTF is a sabot anyways? lol
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62 grain ss109 5.56 bullet placed in a plastic insert and loaded into a .30 cal rifle case. In this case a .308
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62 grain ss109 5.56 bullet placed in a plastic insert and loaded into a .30 cal rifle case. In this case a .308
i see... whts the point of it? extreme velocity? id imagine it cant have any more energy then its slower heavier parent case caliber.
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62 grain ss109 5.56 bullet placed in a plastic insert and loaded into a .30 cal rifle case. In this case a .308
i see... whts the point of it? extreme velocity? id imagine it cant have any more energy then its slower heavier parent case caliber.
the faster it goes the more it will pierce
if i can load up a m855 bullet to go roughly 1500-2000 fps faster then it will probably go through the ar500 at closer ranges,
either way i will find out [url=http://www.freesmileys.or
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its just bassically going to end up being a .243 with a 62 grain bullet...which they already have.. it aint going to fly all that fast... just saying. the .243 shoots a 55 grain bullet at around 4k ft/s... its the same case... you can expect that or worse from a .223 stuffed into a plastic case and into a .308 case.
no matter what you get in velocity you lost in weight so you end up with the same energy. im not sure how much youll gain packing your energy into a smaller bullet diameter as far as penetration goes but id say the .243 is gonna do about what ever this sabot will. (unless theres more to this sabot then you guys are telling me) steel core bullets will deffinatly up the damage to AR500 steel... perhaps thats what the bullet in question (m855) is? but even then.. it might mess it up but i dont think its going to blow a hole through it.
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its just bassically going to end up being a .243 with a 62 grain bullet...which they already have.. it aint going to fly all that fast... just saying. the .243 shoots a 55 grain bullet at around 4k ft/s... its the same case... you can expect that or worse from a .223 stuffed into a plastic case and into a .308 case.
no matter what you get in velocity you lost in weight so you end up with the same energy. im not sure how much youll gain packing your energy into a smaller bullet diameter as far as penetration goes but id say the .243 is gonna do about what ever this sabot will. (unless theres more to this sabot then you guys are telling me) steel core bullets will deffinatly up the damage to AR500 steel... perhaps thats what the bullet in question (m855) is? but even then.. it might mess it up but i dont think its going to blow a hole through it.
well a 62gn round would go about 3900fps in a 243
the sabot would push it roughly 4500fps or so
then you add the tungsten steel core.....
or do they make api rounds for 5.56?
i could pull some bullets off and load them into sabots
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its just bassically going to end up being a .243 with a 62 grain bullet...which they already have.. it aint going to fly all that fast... just saying. the .243 shoots a 55 grain bullet at around 4k ft/s... its the same case... you can expect that or worse from a .223 stuffed into a plastic case and into a .308 case.
no matter what you get in velocity you lost in weight so you end up with the same energy. im not sure how much youll gain packing your energy into a smaller bullet diameter as far as penetration goes but id say the .243 is gonna do about what ever this sabot will. (unless theres more to this sabot then you guys are telling me) steel core bullets will deffinatly up the damage to AR500 steel... perhaps thats what the bullet in question (m855) is? but even then.. it might mess it up but i dont think its going to blow a hole through it.
well a 62gn round would go about 3900fps in a 243
the sabot would push it roughly 4500fps or so
then you add the tungsten steel core.....
or do they make api rounds for 5.56?
i could pull some bullets off and load them into sabots
so theres more to this round then your telling me i see. this sabot is going to push it... is this thing jet propelled or something lol.
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its just bassically going to end up being a .243 with a 62 grain bullet...which they already have.. it aint going to fly all that fast... just saying. the .243 shoots a 55 grain bullet at around 4k ft/s... its the same case... you can expect that or worse from a .223 stuffed into a plastic case and into a .308 case.
no matter what you get in velocity you lost in weight so you end up with the same energy. im not sure how much youll gain packing your energy into a smaller bullet diameter as far as penetration goes but id say the .243 is gonna do about what ever this sabot will. (unless theres more to this sabot then you guys are telling me) steel core bullets will deffinatly up the damage to AR500 steel... perhaps thats what the bullet in question (m855) is? but even then.. it might mess it up but i dont think its going to blow a hole through it.
well a 62gn round would go about 3900fps in a 243
the sabot would push it roughly 4500fps or so
then you add the tungsten steel core.....
or do they make api rounds for 5.56?
i could pull some bullets off and load them into sabots
so theres more to this round then your telling me i see. this sabot is going to push it... is this thing jet propelled or something lol.
it has a cummins engine on it
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EJR and I just took the wives to see it, it was pretty good.
Hell yeah! That kicked ass. My wife had nightmare's for two nights after that movie! It was fairly graphic for her, and I thought it showed even more than Black Hawk Down.
The tactics were sweet to see, also their communication was good. My wife actually asked me, "Do they really have little planes like that?" LOL I told her civvies are building similar things now for not much cost at all.
The action was freaking kick ass, and if you're into that sort of things, a lot of big machine guns, tons of ammo and explosions, and a lot of people getting their ass handed to them, then you'll love this move.
I have to admit, the whole time I was watching it, I just couldn't help but think, "Goebbels."
Go see this movie, though, it is completely kick ass.
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I have to admit, the whole time I was watching it, I just couldn't help but think, "Goebbels."
LMFAO!!!! O0