Unchained Preppers
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: goodnightChesty1775 on August 31, 2011, 05:01:53 AM
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/31/nyregion/bullying-law-puts-new-jersey-schools-on-spot.html?_r=1
LOL. my parents always told me to stand up stick out my chest and swing if i had too. the pussification of the youth continues!!!
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That is about the most bs thing i've seen since tuesday!
So,if a kid is getting picked on by a bully and theres another kid watching snd does nothing to "stop" it,that kid is guilty of accessory to bullying?
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That is about the most bs thing i've seen since tuesday!
So,if a kid is getting picked on by a bully and theres another kid watching snd does nothing to "stop" it,that kid is guilty of accessory to bullying?
The intent of the law is good.... when we all stand up against the bully and say we arent going to stand around and watch you do this, that the bully will back down. Its kinda what we are doing, isn't it? But in all actuality you cant force a kid to step up to a bully anymore than you can force someone to stop at an accident. I know someone in this thread that stood up for the weaker kids..... O:-)
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That is about the most bs thing i've seen since tuesday!
So,if a kid is getting picked on by a bully and theres another kid watching snd does nothing to "stop" it,that kid is guilty of accessory to bullying?
The intent of the law is good.... when we all stand up against the bully and say we arent going to stand around and watch you do this, that the bully will back down. Its kinda what we are doing, isn't it? But in all actuality you cant force a kid to step up to a bully anymore than you can force someone to stop at an accident. I know someone in this thread that stood up for the weaker kids..... O:-)
Dont you think we have enough laws?
It's sad to know that your kid could be arrested for minding his/her own biz!
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No, I agree totally. I would like to think if one of my spawn saw a kid gtting picked on or beat up that they would step up out of a feeling thats the right thing to do.... but not because a law says they have to put themselves in harms way.
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Don't ever start the fight, but fuckin finish it if need be. [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
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I've been through this b4...i've always taught mine to step up to help out someone in trouble,be it a flat tire or a bully situation...my oldest did just that in 7th grade when 2 wannabe gangbangers was trying to take another kids pants...THE PAIR HR HAD ON!! when it was over,my boy was charged with assault!
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Southern Patriot :) I laugh because a similar situation happened to me.
Many, many, many years ago I was in 12 grade English class. The teacher was a typical English teacher- Just out of college and in love with sonnets and Shakespeare. Well these known bullies kept putting tacks on the chair of a...well...lets say wimp of a young man.
The teacher saw it happening and said nothing so I finally told the bullies to stop. They laughed at me and continued so I jacked the biggest one up.
The teacher ran out of the room screaming and soon after another teacher rushed into the room and took control.
Of course I got hauled off to the Vice Principle's office with the bully's and the kid being picked on. We all told our stories one at a time. I spent the remainder of the year (About a month) in detention at the end of each day along with the bully's. I was never allowed back to my English class (Thank god). The picked on kid never thanked me.
Then there was this time when I saw a guy slapping around his wife at the mall. I stepped in to try and stop it and the women came after me along with her husband- 2 against one. A cop appeared out of nowhere and I received the lecture of a lifetime from him about not getting involved in domestic disputes.
Or my favorite. While at a watering hole (Bar for you folks in Massachusetts) where a guy kept picking on a lady at the bar. She kept telling him to leave her alone. I stepped in and...well he got the worst of it. As a matter of fact he went to the hospital.
While at the hospital he obviously told the police a story and I got arrested for felonious assault the next day. Went to court and it was reduced to a misdemeanor- Simple Assault. I got two years probation and had to pay his hospital bill. The only good thing that came out of the event I ended up marrying the lady being picked on.
So should you step in when someone is being bullied? Do so at your own risk.
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I was taught as a kid to drop the one with the mouth. I grew up having to deal with assholes. I've been a bit pudgy my whole life. Thing is the skinny little fucksticks aren't smart enough to realize i ate good because i grew up throwing hay bales and doing manual work while they were out smoking dope and generally being delinquents. I've learned that if there is 2-3 of these pricks the one with the mouth is the one to pound the shit out of....he's the brave one. I was taught how to deal with these assholes by my father....who was the local PD's detective at the time. That was back in the day when kids got into fights and it didn't involve gang beatings and guns.....fucking kids these days are pussies.
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Don't ever start the fight, but fuckin finish it if need be.
that's how I was taught. (http://www.smileyvault.co
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Regrettably, I was one of the bullies. It doesn't justify it but I had a lot of pent up anger. I just wanted to beat the crap out of the whole world. Regardless of color, age, size, or sexual preference. What an ass, I just wanted to hit someone, anyone.
Thank God for the military, although I've got regrets about that too. Thank God for my wife. No regrets there, she saved me. I'm a man of peace today because of her. I look back now and wonder, "Who was that person?"
All you need is love, love is all you need.
Edit: I did get sent off to the Dallas County juvenile home several times. Maybe sometime I'll tell you about the white hippie story the cops fed me.
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I never really had any problems with bullies, people knew not to fuck with me and for the most part in middle and high school most kids were afraid of me and some of my teachers too. I was that kid in the far back corner in black that kept to himself and lets just say if SWAT ever showed up, I'd be one of the kids going through peoples minds like "Yeah the signs were all there, I don't know how we missed it." I would never do anything like that but I did fit the profile.
Other than the usual sticks and stones thing, all I was ever taught was to never throw the first punch because that's assault, but once they throw it, make 'em bleed.
What's considered "bullying" today kinda makes me laugh and if you're going to off yourself because of what someone said online then you're really doing the world a favor...Yeah I'm a heartless bastard.
Can someone explain to me how the school district has any authority over what a kid does online off school grounds?
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mind your own business is my policy, if said person is willing to sit there and take it they deserve it
i intervened once, almost got nevermind.......
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Don't ever start the fight, but fuckin finish it if need be. [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co (http://www.smileyvault.co
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My dad always taught me to never start a fight, but if someone started one with me, I damn well better finish it. If they were bigger than me, or at the time, older than me when I was little, he told me to pick up an equalizer, and I did on occasion. Put one kid in the hospital. He still walks with a limp to this day.
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I moved alot, so as a kid. so i was bully bait on a few occasions. My mom always told me to stand up for myself. After a few encounters i found preemption to be the best method. They would start the shit talking phase and when they would look to their friends for a laugh of support i would strike hard and not stop untill i was draged off. Or i would see someone else being bullied and hit from the blind side and not stop untill draged off. Im not saying it was the honorable thing to do but after we settled in what i now call my home town. I had a very quiet and enjoyable youth. and i did not have to be afraid of bullies from 6th grade on. And while im sure my method underhanded i have no desire to ever fight fair. I have to fight to win. Fear is no way to live ones life.
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Manly art of the sucker punch
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Its agreed, the blind side is the best side.
Teach your kids how to fight and keep that bail money handy.
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Manly art of the sucker punch
I didnt say it was honorable but i wasnt interested in getting my ass handed to me.
Its not as if i was out looking for a fight. And as ive gotten older ive learned that fair fights are for sports.
Out here if its going to come down to a fight, its not about fair its about who is going to the hospital or morg.
And i dont think any one who goes out looking to fuck someone up should be given a fair chance.
Im not expecting anyone to agree with me on this. But i refuse to be drawn into a fair fight of any kind.
Basicly, fair fights are stupid.
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Unless you have gloves on,there is no such thing as a fair fight.
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I'm with you Whiskey, I got no interest in fighting fair.
So long as the other person's intent is to hurt me then he had better pack a lunch.
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My old man was meaner than a stepped on snake, bullies were the least of my concerns. I would have laughed in a kids face if he tried talking shit to me. Your average Gulag in Siberia was way more laid back than my house growing up.
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lol, before I started boxing over seas, & recently since I don't have a bag. My concept was " Gain some distance and draw your firearm "
So yeah, whiskey. I'm with ya.
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lol, before I started boxing over seas, & recently since I don't have a bag. My concept was " Gain some distance and draw your firearm "
So yeah, whiskey. I'm with ya.
Yes I have adopted the i dont fight anyone i can shoot philosophy as well.
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I have no bullies. Im homeschooled.