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June 6, 1944: D-Day
« on: June 06, 2017, 12:22:39 PM »
Today seventy-three years ago, troops from a multiple of countries with the most being from the the UK and USofA stormed the beaches of Normandy France.

Take a minute today to pray for those men & women who gave of themselves to defeat an ideology that was and is unacceptable - Fascism.

Also reflect on whether the youth of today are trying to resurrect this 'ism to forward their cause.

Last, if this is the first post/word of the day talking about this special day in history ask yourself, Why?

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Re: June 6, 1942: D-Day
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2017, 06:55:27 PM »
Today seventy-five years ago, troops from a multiple of countries with the most being from the the UK and USofA stormed the beaches of Normandy France.

Take a minute today to pray for those men & women who gave of themselves to defeat an ideology that was and is unacceptable - Fascism.

Also reflect on whether the youth of today are trying to resurrect this 'ism to forward their cause.

Last, if this is the first post/word of the day talking about this special day in history ask yourself, Why?

(Ok time for  a bit of consciousness raising and no small amount of controversy I am sure..)
So what did they win?

A Europe overrun with non European Hordes and a USA that has enshrined the procedures and toxic mentality borne of Roosevelt's embrace of socialism and central control (=fascism) at home.

So for all the Brits efforts to fight the germans what did they get for it?

A London where they are the minority, a police afraid to arrest muslims for rape lest they be called racists (google Rotterdam sex slaves) and a London "mayor" (by name of "Khan" no less) who assures them "not to be alarmed".

I am sure the French are a real  happy too to have declared war on Germany in 1939 just like Britain to protect the continued Polish occupation of provinces who wanted nothing to do with a polish state.

Who were even massacred in the streets just prior to the german attack.. Of course the media in the plutocracies omitted those little inconvenient atrocities.

Speaking of which.. if England and France positively had to declare war on germany because of the invasion of Poland. why did they not declare war on the soviet union as well?
The Soviets Invaded too and promptly started an atrocity orgy...

This shows that the political class of the plutocracies were not interested in such silly things as freedom or democracy or the peoples well being.. then as now that was propaganda for useful idiots to consume .. no it was pure geopolitics that drove the will to war among the FDRs and Churchills ..

That's why Europe (not just Germany) had to be murdered .

As Americans, especially us on the right.. we cling to D Day as a symbol of a simpler and better time when men were men and we felt a purpose.. But the purpose was a lie from day 1.

What are the lessons to learn here?

That the question is often not "How can we win the war?" but "What will happen if we go to war?" and "who will profit".

The victors will always find a pliable media to spin a narrative regardless the outcome and whose war we fight.
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Re: June 6, 1942: D-Day
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2017, 08:24:53 PM »
Valid points Erick. 
IMHO they got to make the choices that led them here.
no one guarantees perfection and enlightenment.  Only the opportunity to make a try for it.

i think that's worth something.

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Re: June 6, 1944: D-Day
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2017, 09:01:44 PM »
Looking around the political aspects and just from the PFC viewpoint.

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Re: June 6, 1944: D-Day
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2017, 09:11:59 PM »
Why not Russia? Because it would have been impossible to fight two madmen at the same time. As far as Day1 the Japanese attacked us and Germany declared war on us. We had no choice.   
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Re: June 6, 1944: D-Day
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2017, 09:55:59 PM »
Eric you seem like the type to complain about anything and everything in order to not take responsibility for your actions.

What happened in WWII is that we protected the world from German and or Japanese taking over the world.Consider the consequences of doing nothing and be grateful we had men and women willing to fight the battles to win that war
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Re: June 6, 1944: D-Day
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2017, 10:48:19 PM »
 Poland was the straw that broke the camels back. Germany annexed Austria and another country whose name escapes me right now. Every country knew Germany was gearing up for war and that they had the best aircraft and weapons. A large standing army and a desire to make an empire. What the English had was a piece of paper that Neville Chamberlain brought back from Germany "Peace In Our Time". It was fight now or fight later. 
 There's profit in war, huge profit and political power to gain. War Profit and power go hand in hand in hand.
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Re: June 6, 1944: D-Day
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2017, 01:47:03 PM »
Poland was the straw that broke the camels back. Germany annexed Austria and another country whose name escapes me right now. Every country knew Germany was gearing up for war and that they had the best aircraft and weapons. A large standing army and a desire to make an empire. What the English had was a piece of paper that Neville Chamberlain brought back from Germany "Peace In Our Time". It was fight now or fight later. 
 There's profit in war, huge profit and political power to gain. War Profit and power go hand in hand in hand.

Profit is pretty much worthless if your side looses the war
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Re: June 6, 1944: D-Day
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2017, 07:18:19 AM »
@Grizz and JoJo --  kinda been that way since we were stealing each other's cattle.

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Re: June 6, 1944: D-Day
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2017, 06:05:50 PM »

1)Poland was the straw that broke the camels back.
2)Germany annexed Austria and another country whose name escapes me right now.
3)Every country knew Germany was gearing up for war and that they had the best aircraft and weapons.
4)A large standing army and a desire to make an empire.
5)What the English had was a piece of paper that Neville Chamberlain brought back from Germany "Peace In Our Time".
6)It was fight now or fight later. 


1) In Allied agitprop that we now embrace yes. But what we forgot is that Poland was occupying tens of thousands of square miles of german lands + peoples that the allies of WW1 Had given them (!) These people did not want to be there. They were interested in self determination instead.
2) It's impossible to annex a people that wants to be part of you. Thats called.. wait for it.. Self-determination. In the constitution Austria gave itself in 1919 Paragraph 2 read : We are part of the German Nation and it is our constitutional duty to work todars unification with germany. The allies kept blockading food imports starving the people of Austria until they chnaged the constitution.
In the meantime they took a huge part of that country (the Sudetenland populated by 3.5 million germans fully 40% of German Austrian population and annexed it to that concentration camp of Nations called Czechoslovakia.
There was no reason to create that country except to ensure an everlasting hatred bewteen Czechs (and they were hoping Slovaks but it didn't work) on on side and hungarians and germans on the other.
It was deliberatly created in bad faith.
3) Actually EVERY SINGLE YEAR from 1930 to 1939 Britain and France by themselves spent more money EACH on the military than germany did EVEN though Germany carried the extra expensive start-up costs of rearming.
This is one of the fundamental causes of the War. Britain and France thought it would be a cakewalk to reimpose their imperial dictation on their victims.
Even the Poles were bragging that their Army would "cut through germany like a hot knife through Butter" and that they would take Berlin within weeks.
The difference between what happened was due to the german fighting smarter and making the best use of what they had.
No one including the germans could have predicted this.
BTW did you know that the Polish military was nearly as large as the German military?
They had nearly as many tanks ( and better ones) as the germans?
Poland also had a significant Air Force.
The "tanks against brave polish cavalry" myth is just that a myth. ... Not that such an engagement did not happen but it was not indicative of the reality on the ground.
Germany tried a compromise and peace with Poland again and again.. but the Poles (egged on by British and French guarantees) were not interested.

None of this is controversial its all black letter history and can be learned at any military academy.
or anyone who reads a serious book on the preliminaries to the war. (instead of wartime and postwar feel-good propaganda.. "Why we fight " and all that dishonest nonsense)

4) Empire? Who had a large military and a desire for empire? Britain whose empire covered a quarter of the globes landmass?? France who was not far behind? The US which had only a genration earlier annexed Purto RIco and the phillipines ? The Soviet Union which was committing daily atrocities on its minorities every year between world wars one and two with total victims dramatically exceeding the Holocaust. An Empire that was following a ideology of expansion.

As for will of empire who here "show of hands" has ACTUALLY read documents from the time on germany interwar policy and goals? And not just "learned" from hollywood or socialist propaganda of the war years.
Stated german policy was to rescue the germans from allied injustices and crimes of 1919.. Even Hitler only hoped for more (Lebensraum) once the war was joined (and going surprisingly well in the beginning).

5) Again the English also had the biggest Empire on the planet and Churchill was running around gassing Russians in 1921 and Kurds (in the 30's the RAF on Churchills agitation gassed many many more Kurds than Saddam Hussein ever did) trying to make a name for himself as British hardliner to recover from the disaster of Gallipoli which had been blamed on him.
(Seriously i hope there is no one on here who doesnt know this.. )
If he had been alive in 1776 he would have likely pursued a policy of genocide against the colonists too.
Think about that for a bit....

6) yes and the "fight later" is now.. As the Chickens of backing the wrong side in WW2 are coming home to roost here and in most of Europe.
One can only hope that the Poles , the Czechs, The Ukrainians and Russians can avoid the fate that Western decadence has so richly brought on itself.
Soon they may be all that's left of the continent of our ancestors... and its all the result of foolish + failed allied policies before and after both Wars.
Are the germans free of blame?
No.
But they were always the underdogs compared to the multitude of huge allied empires.
it is the more powerful parties that had the ability to shape our reality.. so it is they who must take the blame.
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Re: June 6, 1944: D-Day
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2017, 07:04:10 PM »
 Up until WWII the common theme was "If you won a war to the victor go the spoils". This was to pay for the cost of the war. In the Sudetenland Hitler sent many many Germans there to start trouble and become a major citizenry. Similar to what is happening in the EU now with muslims. 
 Yes Germany had little money of their own that's why they borrowed from Russia. But they had one great advantage they didn't have any military equipment or old fashion generals. Their best pilot, I think his name was Galand came to the US to study our Marines method of dive bombing which our Admirals didn't think much of. They also studied the English method of Lightning War, Yes the British invented it but again their Generals didn't think much of it. By the beginning of the war the Stuka was obsolete and the British had the best fighter in the Spitfire. The Axis had the BF109 with battle hardened pilots and the British still held their own. The consensus at that time still was trench warfare. The allies at that time took a knife to a gun fight.
 The Germans didn't fight smarter, the French fought stupid, WWI style and the British weren't prepared, remember Nevil Chamberlain Peace in our time. The Germans made huge mistakes and it cost them the war. Bombing London, attacking Russia etc.
 President Roosevelt was a committed socialist and his wife was a communist, both hated the British Empire and were determined to dismantle it. When the British asked for ships Roosevelt sent our most worn (JUNK) destroyers, he also held back needed supplies.
 As for the Polish Calvary, the roads were clogged with refugees. Horses were the only thing to get thru.   
     
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Re: June 6, 1944: D-Day
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2017, 07:56:58 PM »
In the Sudetenland Hitler sent many many Germans there to start trouble and become a major citizenry. Similar to what is happening in the EU now with muslims.   

Long before this monstrous creation of the Allies called "Czechoslovakia" existed, germans lived as a near 100% ,majority in their areas.

Even outside the Sudetenland in Bohemia/Moravia where the Czechs were the majority they were so only in the countryside.
3 out of 4 cities were founded by Germans and had majority german populations for centuries.
The Czechs only came to Bohemia/Moravia in the dawn of the middle ages as refugees from the Mongols.

As for Prague the former jewel on Central Europe it was founded, built and populated by Germans.
It was not until 1919 when the Czechs integrated the surrounding villages into "Prague" that Czechs EVER got over 50%.

if you believe a city has a soul then the Soul of Pragues is currently shaking in disgust as feeling the footsteps of its murderers on its corpse.

A little bit of history lesson from a survivors association:
https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/sginferno/sgi00.html

Some excerpts quotes in italics.. my comments in regular script.

The Death March of Bruenn:

"Beat them, beat them, leave none alive!"
an Zizka's Hussite War battle cry of the early 15th century, "Beat them, beat them, leave none alive!", was echoed and turned into infernal, gruesome reality by that late-medieval Czech knight's descendants in the death march of Brünn on Corpus Christi 1945.
Just as in those early days, the masses, inflamed by their leadership, abandoned themselves publicly and without shame or conscience to a degree of brutality and bestiality that few outsiders could have conceived of.

Tens of thousands of Brünn citizens - mostly women and children, but also elderly people - were ruthlessly driven from their homes, robbed of all their possessions, and hunted via Pohrlitz to the Austrian border with little more than the clothes on their backs. Whoever collapsed remained where he fell, was beaten, or shot without much ado. Old people and little children dropped like flies from thirst, hunger and exhaustion. The catastrophic sanitary conditions in the transit camp Pohrlitz following a dysentery epidemic meant a rich harvest for death there as well.

Frau Theresia Beichl, who was on this death march with her little daughter, recounts the following: "I saw a woman giving birth in a ditch. Afterwards the Czechs beat her to death and trampled the newborn until it was dead too."

That such incredible brutishness was not an isolated case is shown by the account of Frau M.v.W. (Documents on the Expulsion of the Sudeten Germans, op.cit.), who recounts being ordered (with reference to a dead mother and child) to "throw the sow into the latrine together with her bastard!" When M.v.W., a Red Cross nurse, refused, two other women were forced to perform the abominable deed and to throw the dead mother and baby into the open latrine. Weeks later it was still possible to see the baby's head and one of the mother's arms sticking out of the filth.

The murders and brutality that accompanied this forced march to Austria are uncounted.

In Pohrlitz, one of the largest of all mass graves remains as silent witness to this death march, and there is hardly a town or village all the way to the border where some dead were not buried, thrown like dogs into shallow graves.

It was a 60-km crusade of Germans forcibly expelled from Brünn and tortured to the point of deat
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First Tortured, Then Shot in the Grave
ith raised hands the German men of Landskron had to appear before a Revolutionary Tribunal on May 17, 1945, recounts Julius Friedel. "The first in each row had to carry a portrait of Hitler, covered with phlegm and bloody spit, and the next in line had to lick it clean when ordered to do so.
"The last 20 to 30 steps to the Judges' table had to be traversed by the men on their knees. Here each was told what his sentence would be. And then a terrible running of the gauntlet began; many were drowned in the firefighting pond. Karl Piffl, master carpenter, was dragged out of the pond again half-dead, and was then literally beaten to death and trampled to mush.

"Foreman Reichstädter was beaten beyond recognition, stood up against the wall of the city hall, and shot. Running out of the alley that led to the prison, driven on by howling Czechs, came engineer Josef Neugebauer, streaming with blood. He too died facing the wall of the city hall with hands raised - felled by a hail of bullets from submachine guns. Engineer Otto Dietrich died the same way. Peasant farmer Viktor Benes died there too after the top of his skull had been shot off. And those were only the people I knew personally.

"The cries of agony of the bleeding people soon drowned out everything else. The dead lay piled everywhere.

"On May 18 those who still survived were again herded together in the city square. The most horrible tortures continued. After his share of the torture, master plumber Josef Jurenka had to place the noose around his own neck, to be hung from a gas street lamp.

"Robert Schwab, an official from Ober-Johnsdorf, died similarly. The other Germans had to keep the bodies of these two hanged men constantly in swinging motion. Engineer Köhler, who was originally from Germany, was stabbed with walking-canes, to the gleeful howling of the mob. All day long the normally quite city square rang with dreadful cries and screams. After that day, mass suicides of Germans began throughout the District."

Regarding Komotau, Ottokar Kremen reports:

"The soldiers from the SS were tortured horribly. Those who had already been beaten twice or even three times had festering wounds. The pus soaked through their shirts and jackets. The backs of these poor people were crawling with flies and stank dreadfully. They were put separately in a small room called 'Marodka'. Once eight to ten were in 'Marodka', these battered people who could barely move had to dig a hole two meters deep and 60 cm wide. In the evening, when the hole was finished, they were forced to stand up beside it and the first of them had to lie down in the hole (grave), and not until he was in it was he shot from above. The second man had to lie down on the first body and was also shot from above, and in this way it continued until the grave was stacked full. One time there was still some room left over for one more, and so they got a woman, 67 years of age, whose hair had been cut off. She had been tortured, but still refused to tell where her son was. She had to lie down on top of the bodies. Then she too was killed.

"Words fail me to describe the appearance of those people who had been beaten twice. I saw a member of the Waffen-SS who had already endured two beatings. Aside from his body, which was battered to a pulp, his private parts had swollen by about 8 or 9 cm in diameter, they were wholly suffused with blood and the testicles were beginning to fester; right to the anus everything was full of pus, and he stank horribly. Every day more and more people joined the ranks of these unfortunates. The 'Stráz bezpecnosti' brought the people into the camp already half-dead.

"And then came the day of the mass murders in Postelberg. Large groups, up to 80 men at a time, were gathered up and marched out. The men knew what was in store for them. They strode upright and with stony faces past those who remained behind. Not one begged for his life."


MORE :

The Mass Dying in the Elbe River
n unbelievable fate struck thousands of Germans in Aussig.
Herbert Schernstein, a Communist, had been in the concentration camps Theresienstadt, Sachsenhausen and Ravensbrück from 1938 to 1945. He recounts: "On July 8 I returned from the concentration camp to Aussig, where the Czechs had just deported my mother. One day near the end of July, already past 4:00 p.m., members of the Svoboda Guard drove all the Germans from the surrounding blocks of houses out of their homes and hounded them en masse into the Elbe River. I saw women and children vanish among the waves. Czech groups with submachine guns had set up on Ferdinand Heights, whence they shot at the Germans floating in the river. I would estimate that some 2,000 Germans were killed that way.

Another eyewitness remembers: "The wildest groups raged near the market square and the train station. Women were thrown into the Elbe along with their babies in their prams, and the soldiers then used them for target practice, shooting at the women until they no longer surfaced. They also threw Germans into the water reservoir in the market square, and pushed them back underwater with poles whenever they tried to come up for air."

Konrad Herbertstein saw the happenings at the Elbe bridge: "I saw hundreds of German laborers from the Schicht works being thrown into the Elbe. The Czechs also shoved women and children and even baby carriages into the river.

"It was not until about 5:00 p.m. that some Russian officers tried to stop the raging mob, and a few Czechs in uniform were helping them. The Czech mayor of Aussig at that time - his name was Vondra - had tried his best to stop the murdering mob, who had come from outside Aussig, and he was almost thrown into the Elbe himself for his efforts."

Another account shows how the Czech military also participated in the murdering. Josef Grössl has testified:

"I was arrested, tied hand and foot, beaten unconscious three times in a row, and then thrown into a one-man bunker in the Welpert camp. Eleven men from the farming community had already been shot there by Lieutenant Anton Cerny's unit. By a lucky coincidence I escaped the same fate, and stayed in the camp for 14 days as the lieutenant's batman. Every day I saw people being abused, shot, or beaten to death with a hammer. The lieutenant himself saw to the shooting. I personally witnessed the executions of about 20 people. Afterwards I was forced to lick the lieutenant's blood-spattered boots clean."

Heinrich Michel recalls the concentration camp Lerchental: "One day - I do not remember the exact date - a father and his son, who had returned to his parents' home from the battlefront only the evening before, were brought to the camp. Just outside the gate to the concentration camp the son tried to flee. He was mowed down with a submachine gun. The father was forced to cart the body of his murdered son into the camp in a wheelbarrow, and was brutally beaten all the while. A gruesome funeral procession."

Elisabeth Böse attests: "On just a single day, twelve men were put to a gruesome death in Wichstadl. After their noses and ears had been cut off, they were beaten and thrown into the water, and then they were hanged from the trees surrounding the church. Among them was a Czech who had made weapons for the Volkssturm. We inhabitants of the town were not allowed to leave our houses while this tragedy was going on. One neighbor (a farmer) had to dig his own grave before being shot."

F. Fiedler attests: "In Haida 60 prisoners, including many women, were forced to strip to the waist and take off their shoes. Then they had to kneel on the pavement of the market square and were grossly beaten on the chest and the soles of their feet by Czech tormentors until they collapsed unconscious. Cold water poured on the heads of these victims brought them to again so that the torture could be continued. This maltreatment went on until daybreak, and then these poor people who had been tortured to the brink of death were shot in the market square."


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"Cesarean Section", Czech-Style
ohanna Huber continues:
"But the most gruesome death of all was reserved for my pregnant neighbor, Frau Kosnarsch. Her amputee husband (he had lost a leg), both her parents, and her daughter were brutally beaten to death in the house. The pregnant woman's stomach had been trampled or cut open; it was one huge, gruesome, horrible, dreadful wound. The umbilical cord was wrapped around the dead woman's throat, and the unborn baby's brains were splattered over the wall.

"On our estate lived 80-year-old Anna Preis. A partisan smashed her glasses with a club in such a way that the glass shards cut her eyes. The blinded woman hanged herself in despair a few days later.

"Suicide was the only way out for many people in those days. Today we know that there was a huge wave of German suicides throughout all of Czechoslovakia. We too searched the barn, in vain, for some ergot with which to poison ourselves. The pharmacist Pfeifer, a half-Jew who had been horribly abused, advised us to take razor blades and slit our wrists to escape all the horror, he said that this was the least painful death. What luck that we couldn't find any razor blades. Fate spared our lives, even if we did lose everything that the hard work of generations had wrought."

In May and June the wave of suicides that struck many towns and villages of the Sudetenland claimed the lives of older people in particular. By law the Germans no longer had any rights whatsoever. If they even had a home left at all, they were forced to keep it open to plunderers at all times. They had to hand in all their valuables, from jewelry to cameras.

Germans were forbidden to use public transit. They were forbidden to leave their homes, except on orders or at specific times. Letter-writing was also forbidden, as was entering a public inn, a train station or a post office. They usually received no ration cards at all, and if they did, these included no stamps for meat, eggs, milk, cheese or fruit - which meant the death sentence for many children.

Insofar as they were not already locked up in the concentration camps, the Germans were obligated to forced labor without pay. In many places, the people were ordered to assemble at certain locations, whence they were transported off as labor slaves to work in agriculture, mining or industry. The German clergy was also not spared the orgy of hate. Cistercian abbot Eberhard Harzer of Ossegg recounts:

"At every other step on my return to the cell I had to step over a dead or half-dead person. Back in the barracks I heard the old German men of Maria-Ratschitz being shot down behind the barracks wall. They included almost all the old Christian-Socialist party members. The women were beaten horribly, to the point where they could barely see through the swelling. All women had been raped, and many had severe internal injuries and were infected with syphilis.

"When the 'Svobodici' could rape no more, they resorted to bottle necks with which they continued torturing the women. When I left this camp in October, many of these women were still lying badly injured in the sick-rooms."

The abbot had been repeatedly arrested, abused and released again.

On November 29, 1945, he writes, "I was arrested again and taken to the concentration camp in Dux. There were some fellow-prisoners there who had endured that terrible day in Bilin. Men and women from the environs of Bilin were herded together in the market square where they had to strip naked and then had to march single-file past the Czech population, who beat them with whips and canes. After that, the men in particular had to crawl in a row on all fours like dogs, and were beaten until they lost control over their bowels. The ones behind then had to lick it off the ones in front of them. This torture continued until many had been beaten to death; the priest of Radowesitz was among these. What was done to the women there is simply beyond description - the sadistic monstrosity of it all is too much."



The wonderful liberation of Cucumber salad with Glass Shards:

Cucumber Salad With Glass Shards
ne terrible aspect of Theresienstadt is the constant starvation. The battle for a spoonful of watery soup grows more and more embittered. Racked by hunger, an inmate one day attempts to sneak an extra scoop of the bland liquid into his bowl.
"The overseer sees him do it. He proceeds to force the prisoner to gulp down the lukewarm dishwater in such quantities that the soup runs back out of his mouth. The prisoner dies that same evening. The excessive quantity of liquid has burst his insides.

"Another inmate steals his fellow-prisoner's daily ration of bread. That very same evening the thief is ordered to dinner by the yard commandant. There are fried potatoes with cucumber salad and glass splinters; asparagus with potatoes and minced coal; followed by a dessert containing cobbler's nails - all of it in incredible quantities. The inmate has to eat it all. He too is a dead man later that same evening.

"The cases of famine oedema increase alarmingly. In August 1945 the mass graves dating from the German concentration camp days are discovered. We criminals from the single-cells are drawn on to make up the infamous corpse-commando. The bodies in the graves are covered with chloride of lime, black and rotting. A choking gas, a mixture of chloride of lime and decomposition gases, rises acridly from the pits that have been uncovered. Driven on with whippings and kicks, we have to retrieve the bodies from the depths with our bare hands. We lift them up carefully so that they will not burst and let the decomposed insides run out. The press is there en masse. Movie cameras whir. The entire thing is turned into a large-scale propaganda project. In the bright late-summer sun the bodies are lined up on the ground. In the evening, we inmates are forced to kiss the rows of corpses. Many subsequently die from the body toxins.

"Eventually, towards midnight, the group of guards on duty - they are drunken fellows aged 19 to 25 - make their nightly rounds to the single-cells. It is an unspoken rule that an inmate is to be whipped to death with a wire whip on these occasions. For the Czech guards this is perhaps no more than a lark to pass the time, but for the victim it is painful torture indeed. Sometimes it lasts half an hour, sometimes longer. During this time the entire single-cell block rings with the desperate screams of the tortured, with the angry barking of the dogs excited by the commotion and the smell of warm blood, with the whistling crack of the blows raining down on the inmate's body, and finally we hear the victim's death rattle, growing ever fainter.

"SS truck driver Matz is among the beaten every day and every night. But they don't beat him to death - they want to force confessions from him instead. And one day they have worn him down. He makes the confessions that his tormentors want. They beat more than a hundred confessions of having murdered Czechs out of him. He had not actually participated in even one of them. Every night I hear him groaning. The concrete floor is so hard, and poor Metz doesn't know which way best to lie on it. Flesh hangs off his back in shreds, and his sides are raw from the floggings. He is covered all over with bloody marks from blows and kicks. One morning, after a terrible night, one of his eyes is burst and drained, and the other so badly swollen that he cannot see with it.

"One of the many open wounds on his body gives rise to blood poisoning. Sepsis sets in. One morning one of his thighs is puffed up to the size of an elephant's leg. The rest of his body is as thin as an eight-year-old's. On their nightly visit, his tormentors discover his deformed leg. They force him to do one-hundred squats. His tortured agonized body cannot manage even one. The guards shake with laughter. Then they beat and kick him, that he flies around in his cell like some coffee bean in the grinder. Two days later, Matz is dead. One of countless many."


More wonderful adventures with Churchills Boys.. The Czech Brigade in the UK military:

Dismembered Alive
hile the expulsion was already in full swing, the killing continued in the camps. A publication put out by President Benes's party in summer 1945 stated: There are no good Germans, there are only bad ones, and worse. A Czech father who fails to raise his children to hate the Germans is not only a bad patriot, he is also a bad father... This hatred extended also to the German anti-Fascists.
In the documentation Documents on the Expulsion of the Sudeten Germans, Herbert Schernstein of Aussig says, for example, that "the Czechs exceeded by far the concentration camp methods of the Nazis, with which I had become more than familiar enough."

The anto-Nazi Sudeten Germans were, of course, also given no consideration.

"On June 24, 1945 we were arrested in Engelsberg by the 'German Revolutionary Guard', taken to the camp, and beaten there day and night by the Czechs. The beatings were repeated every half-hour six or seven times each night. All of us were disfigured beyond recognition.

"The worst day was July 4, 1945. That day the beatings already began early in the morning. Then 25 inmates had to dig a hole. They were constantly beaten while digging. All of us had to gather around the pit. Then 20 men were brought half-undressed from the barracks. Ten of them had to kneel at the pit. Ten Czechs with submachine guns shot them and threw them into the pit. Then the second group of ten followed, and thus it continued. Among those who were shot, I recognized the Engelsberg teacher Hermann Just, a anti-Nazi Social Democrat; radio expert Fochler of Freudenthal, an anti-Nazi who had; and the farmer Zimmermann of Dürrseifen, who had been in a German concentration camp. The grave digger Gustav Riedl had been in the first group, but he had only been grazed. After three minutes he stood up in the pit and begged for another bullet. A Czech fired his submachine gun at him again. But Riedl just could not die. Another few minutes later he stood up again in the pit. They shot at him again and this time he was dead. Incidentally, in that camp I also met the people from the 'German Revolutionary Guard' who had arrested me."

In this explosion of insanity, killing became a matter of whim. Sometimes in the Adelsdorf camp every sixth man in a line-up was shot, for no reason, with no regard to who he was, and regardless of his "crime". It was simply a desire to kill.

The guards indulged in horrible kinds of "fun". A physician who was interned in this forest camp had turned into one huge festering wound; it literally covered him from head to foot. To move, he had to crawl painfully on the ground, as he had not been able to walk any more for a long time. Others were forced to lick out his pus-filled wounds. Inmates were forced to eat excrement and had to lick each other's genitals. One night a number of the poor souls in this camp hung themselves from the beams in the barracks; they could simply no longer take the physical and mental torture.

Excrement-covered gags were popular among the Czechs. Dr. Karl Gregor: "Whenever I screamed or groaned when they beat me, they would shove a gag covered with human excrement into my mouth."

After being himself horribly tortured, Otto Patek witnessed the following in the Joachimsthal camp:

"In the night of June 5-6, 1945, around 10:00 p.m., eleven or twelve Czechs came to us in the dance hall. They brought a bench, and blankets with which the windows were covered up. As their first victim they grabbed the master watchmaker Johann Müller of St. Joachimsthal, laid him on the bench, cut his ears off with a knife, stabbed his eyes out, shoved a bayonet into his mouth, broke out his teeth, and broke his bones by smashing his arms over his knees and his legs over the bench. Since he still lived, they wrapped cable wire twice around his throat and dragged him around the hall until his neck had pulled out and the body showed no more signs of life. During this dragging-around a Czech stood on the body to weight it down. The body was reduced to a lump of flesh, and was wrapped in my coat and laid in the middle of the hall. In this manner six more were murdered that night, three of them Reich-German soldiers. Whenever another one was dead, we were again beaten with rubber truncheons.

"The Germans murdered in this way screamed horribly, as they were being killed fully conscious. Three inmates who had to watch this went insane. I myself suffered a nervous breakdown."

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Re: June 6, 1944: D-Day
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2017, 08:21:19 PM »
The demonization of Middle America as "racist" .. "Oppressive" etc has been under way for many years..
Saul Alinsky said "for Socialism to win 20 million americans must die" That was when the US has 200 million people.

Prior to WW2 DeGaulle said: "There are 20 million germans too many"
Churchill said (I dont have the exact quote) about bombing the Germans into the stone age.

Both these things were Loooong before Hitler came to power..

So expect all of the above is coming to a neighborhood near you when the Socialists/Progressives of FDRs ilk win the future American Civil War.
Except replace "Czechs" with AntiFa/BLM/Progressive Activists and "Germans" with middle America.

Think the right will win any Civil war for sure?
Think again.. A hard hitting essay why the left is so good at political violence.
http://jacobitemag.com/2017/06/14/political-violence-is-a-game-the-right-cant-win/
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Re: June 6, 1944: D-Day
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2017, 09:27:30 PM »
 The Jacobite, Great article. I think though that the right is starting to learn. With them fighting antifa and with the shooting today they just might grow a set of balls. 
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