As A Nation, Are We Experiencing Birthing Pains

[JohnyMac]

Throughout history, nations go through birthing pains as they approach the birth of a new nation or period in history. With what we are experiencing are they just birthing pains and once they are over, we will live in a new nation?

We now live with...
> Evil
> Violence
> Corrupt government
> Collapse of financial institutions
> Etcetera

...much of our own doing.

Nations that come to mind are but not limited to,
> Isreal
> Greece
> Persia
> Rome
> England
> France
> Others?

We moved from agrarian to industrial, to nuclear, to AI. What is coming next?

 

[Jackalope]

What comes next are ruins, destruction, and devastation.

[Sir John Honeybucket]

The Whiskey Rebellion might have been birth pangs. The present incidents strike me as death throes. 

Death throes:  "If a person or animal is in their death throes, they are dying and making violent, uncontrolled movements, usually because they are suffering great pain."

[CJS06]

I have to say I agree with Sir John and Jackalope.  Throughout history one of the major indicators of the collapse of an empire has been the preoccupation with Gender.  If that is not going on right now I dont know what is.

Chris

[RB in GA]

I think Johnny is referring to is what rises from the ashes afterwards...

[Felix]

I think Johnny is referring to is what rises from the ashes afterwards...
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"It's hard to put Genies back in their bottle"
"The more things change, the more they stay the same"
"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss"
"Failure to learn history begets repeating it"
"What goes around comes around"
 
while there is also Mark 13:33: "Be on guard, keep awake. For you do not know when the time will come.?

IOWs hope for the best, prepare for the worst - all of those things that our surroundings shall impose upon us, both physically and spiritually.

Personally, I do not expect a fiery sword to cleave the sky above our heads tomorrow.   A barrage of bright-as-the-sun detonating nukes, perhaps.    One simply cannot know.

I see our future as crashing/devolving back to the pastoral with some interesting twists (some technology and that pesky genie/bottle thing).   But so long as we can preserve copies of the Bible, the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, I see great hope that future generation will be glad they were born.
As for "modern conveniences", yes I enjoy them.   And see they have also enabled great decay and evil.
A hard life (physically) is not a bad life.  Not necessarily anyway.
And yes, I'm expanding the garden this year.   Gotta figure out how I want to handle my growing long hair/beard - for maintenance/convenience, sanitary health _and_ perceptual statement.
:-)

[Sir John Honeybucket]

Felix et al,

For me, if those who come out the other side of this have a society obedient to The Bible, whilst possessing Morse code capable HF radios and good, aged Ilay Scotchth that  would be a good place to be. 

[JohnyMac]

RB & Felix, exactly.