Unchained Preppers
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: rah45 on April 11, 2012, 08:32:29 PM
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I thought that, considering the dire threats from individuals and groups relating to the Trayvon Martin shooting in Florida, it would be a good idea for those on the forum who have spare time and can keep track of the situation, to post significant developments here. There have been several incidents of threats (such as a mailbox in Wisconsin with "Kill Whitey" written on it), and some assaults that are supposedly linked to the media coverage of Trayvon's death.
I believe that, if someone notices a severe increase in these threats and assaults, especially in a particular area, he should post it here with a link. If it's a nationwide thing and not just localized to one state, I think there should be a call tree-type action among the board members. I work from 6 am to 4 pm, and I have no clue what's happening outside when I'm working. If I get a text informing me of the situation, I can make a rational decision of the threat level and act accordingly. I'm sure everyone else here would like the same thing.
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i never clicked the link I'm about to refer to, so don't quote me here, but I got a headline in my newsfeed on facebook saying that Zimmerman was in custody and is being charged with 2nd degree murder.
if that's true then it should theoretically calm things down for a while. now, whenever he has his day in court, if he's found not-guilty, then I'd be damn worried about civil unrest.
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-charged-trayvon-martin-killing/story?id=16115469 (http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-charged-trayvon-martin-killing/story?id=16115469)
something like this?
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[url]http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-charged-trayvon-martin-killing/story?id=16115469[/url] ([url]http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-charged-trayvon-martin-killing/story?id=16115469[/url])
something like this?
Things like that to keep up with the case, but also anything violent that may be associated with the case. For all I know, since he's been arrested and it's going through the court system everything may calm down. Then again, it could just remain a powder keg for racial hostilities.
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[url]http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-charged-trayvon-martin-killing/story?id=16115469[/url] ([url]http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-charged-trayvon-martin-killing/story?id=16115469[/url])
something like this?
Things like that to keep up with the case, but also anything violent that may be associated with the case. For all I know, since he's been arrested and it's going through the court system everything may calm down. Then again, it could just remain a powder keg for racial hostilities.
Yeah, good thinking.
I'll keep an eye out.
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My parents spend 90% of their year in Florida. I advised them to come home as soon as possible. Never know what evil elderly (am I allowed to state their color?) parents may be up to... [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
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yeah i heard about him being arrested on murder charges... this may just be a plan to help boil over the pot. they may just charge him and then push him through a not-guilty verdict very quickly to set things off.
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or the Justice System could do it's job and they could convict this busy bodied ne'er do well... I know it's not likely but it would be nice.
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I understand that there was a paper trail a mile long on Zimmerman, and he had been on police radar for years. He may not be guilty of 1st degree premeditated murder, but he is grossly neglegent. That's how the governman got OJ, the mafia, and I'm sure that's how they will get us. On a technicality. [url=http://yoursmiles.org/p-m
Fuck Zimmerman. If you shoot at a sound without knowing what it is then you get to spend a night in the box.
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When the police officer told Zimmerman over the phone that he should NOT proceed with following the kid, that should've been the end of it. Time to pay the piper George, you fucked-up big time.
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I recommend we stop talking about guilty or not guilty on this forum... you have about 1% of the needed info to form any legit opinion about if he is or is not guilty no matter how much research youve done. your relying on unreliable, bias sources of info to form a serious opinion. this is america and you are innocent until proven guilty and i know for a fact none of you have any proof hes guilty of any crime so keep your slander to yourselves please. your just embarassing yourselves.
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I recommend we stop talking about guilty or not guilty on this forum... you have about 1% of the needed info to form any legit opinion about if he is or is not guilty no matter how much research youve done. your relying on unreliable, bias sources of info to form a serious opinion. this is america and you are innocent until proven guilty and i know for a fact none of you have any proof hes guilty of any crime so keep your slander to yourselves please. your just embarassing yourselves.
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A bigger concern to me is the timing of the trial assuming zimmerman makes it to one, I wouldn't be surprised if he's thrown into general population to make the whole thing go away.
Also, under Florida law there is a 90 day limit until a trial after a misdemeanor charge and 175 days for a felony. If the defense dosn't request or approve additional time we are looking at a possible unwanted October surprise.
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When the police officer told Zimmerman over the phone that he should NOT proceed with following the kid, that should've been the end of it. Time to pay the piper George, you fucked-up big time.
A DISPATCHER is NOT a police officer and they cannot give orders. NO ONE, I repeat NO ONE on this site knows what really happened that night. So unless you intend to help the powers that are pushing all of this race war bullshit the judgment should be left to those who have the evidence.
Every single person here needs to think of one thing before the speak out in judgment against someone based solely on what is said in the media...
What happens when it is YOU that they claim is a racist murderer, an enemy spy or even a child molester? Would you agree with any mob that would gather to hang you from the nearest tree? And how can you say you believe in the constitution and the RIGHTS granted us BY "GOD" in the Bill of Rights which guarantees a SUSPECTED party of a crime DUE PROCESS. How can we claim to stand for a system if we do not at first try to work within it to fix it or even try to let it work as it is supposed to???
The major issue here is not one of "the system protecting the white man" or of race at all. It is about POWER and FREEDOM. When a mans actions are subject to the words and whims of a select few, how free is he? The people with "POWER", be it legal or social in nature (i.e. Clinton/Sharpton) seek only one thing and that is to keep and expand their power. And how do they do that? They first need to be relevant. So you need a HOT BUTTON issue that has been around for DECADES and is quick to get people out of their seats, especially when a large number of people are afraid of this issue. Racism. Now, once these people are up in arms and you have CHOAS in the streets, you step in with your authority, bring order at the cost of freedom due to the severity of the situation.
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For the Record : Trayvon Killing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GJRnvG-6Xc#ws)
[URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
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A DISPATCHER is NOT a police officer and they cannot give orders. NO ONE, I repeat NO ONE on this site knows what really happened that night. So unless you intend to help the powers that are pushing all of this race war bullshit the judgment should be left to those who have the evidence.
My knowledge of the case is that George didn't call the 911 dispatcher. He called the police directly to a non-emergency number and was talking to a actual police officer at the time. That is what I've heard, for whatever it's worth. The only people pushing race war is the damn radio talking heads. The family of the kid aren't and seem to be doing their best to stay away from any of that. At least the truth will come out now that there will be a trial, and that is all most folks ever wanted.
In the end, there are much bigger things going in, and this is just another distraction for the sheep. Sucks the kid was shot and killed, sucks that Zimmerman didn't exercise better judgement. The whole thing sucks, but it's time to move on and get on with living life and trying to make your world a better place.
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(i.e. Clinton/Sharpton) seek only one thing and that is to keep and expand their power. And how do they do that? They first need to be relevant. So you need a HOT BUTTON issue
I knew Sharpton had something to do with this shooting! I heard from someone, who heard from someone, that Trayvon was doing his daughter and wouldn't own up to being the baby daddy. So Sharpton hired Zimmerman to lean on him a little. But it got out of hand and turned tragic when Trayvon was heard on the phone saying, "I'm not marrying that ho, do you have a problem with that?" Zimmerman was overheard by a witness, one that is rumored to spend a little too much time at his window peering into a telescope pointed at his neighbors windows saying, "then she wants the hoodie she gave you back!" To which Travon said, "Here, it's your problem now!" and then punched Zimmerman in the nose. You know where it all went from there.
So add another rumor to the pile. What say we all just get drunk, break into the jail and hang the sob. Trial and the justice system be damned. With proof like that which is listed above, who needs a trial. The SOB is guilty. After all, some body who told some body wouldn't lie.
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I'm so fucking tired of this case [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
Pick his ass up.
give him a trial.
acquit him.
let the riots begin.
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Not knowing all of the facts. I'm not going to judge. But I am sick of everybody posting pictures of Martin from when he was younger, and they keep emphasizing how he was unarmed. So I guess if somebody attacks you and they are not armed, you just have to tolerate it. People are always bitching about violence. "Something has got to be done about the world today" " You can't go anywhere any more without worrying about somebody attacking you" or "People are just crazy nowadays" You can't keep bitching about the violence and then bitch when somebody doesn't put up with it. Now, there has to be all these rules. You have to be a certain age, a certain height and weight. You can beat somebody with your hands and feet, maybe on a good day, you can use a ball bat. People carry firearms to defend themselves. Here's a thought. Don't beat somebody's head into the sidewalk. There are little guys that can beat the hell out of big guys. Old women that can beat young whipper snappers. You shouldn't have to break out a book of etiquette while you are being attacked. Nobody has the right to lay their hands on you. I say if they take it upon themselves to attack you, they take whatever they get. I know it sounds a little extreme. But this body has got to get me through many more years.( hopefully) I want to keep it in one piece as long as I can. So just generally speaking, keep your f#@k#@g hands off of me! We'll get along just fine. If you attack me, do it at your own risk. If you feel the need to beat somebody's ass, by all means, beat it. If they shoot you while you are beating it. Oh well.
P.S. It seems strange to me that after police interviewing Zimmerman for 5 hours after the shooting happened and then he was allowed to go free because they couldn't see that he had broken any laws. And he remained free. To go from nothing to hold him on , to charges of 2nd degree murder, Wow, that's a stretch. I don't know all the facts but can you say political pressure?
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allshallperish... who was chasing who in that video? the report that you quoted said that the victim was chasing the shooter, in which case I'd rule it self defense as well. I'm confused by this post.
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......P.S. It seems strange to me that after police interviewing Zimmerman for 5 hours after the shooting happened and then he was aloud to go free because they couldn't see that he had broke any laws. And he remained free. To go from nothing to hold him on , to charges of 2nd degree murder, Wow, that's a stretch. I don't know all the facts but can you say political pressure?
I think it's a political stunt to appease the masses. It goes something like this: The prosecution over-charges him with murder knowing full well, at best, the evidence might only show manslaughter (murder will be ruled out because there was obvious "aggravation" perpetrated by the victim.) Thing is, the prosecution will insist on NOT accepting a plea of manslaughter during the trial, knowing full well the jury will not convict for murder once they have been informed of the conditions that must be met for a murder conviction. Then the defendant goes scott free. The whole thing is a put on, a circus, just so they can say "We tried to get him..." in order to please the masses by giving the appearance that they tried to do their job.
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I thought so, but it seems that they would be prolonging the potential riots. people would still flip when and if they say "Not Guilty". This really hurt the "Stand your ground" law. OR maybe it will end up reinforcing it. We can hope.
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I thought so, but it seems that they would be prolonging the potential riots. people would still flip when and if they say "Not Guilty". This really hurt the "Stand your ground" law. OR maybe it will end up reinforcing it. We can hope.
There's less chance of rioting from a "not guilty" verdict from a jury of his peers than there will be from not being charged in the first place.
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I thought so, but it seems that they would be prolonging the potential riots. people would still flip when and if they say "Not Guilty". This really hurt the "Stand your ground" law. OR maybe it will end up reinforcing it. We can hope.
There's less chance of rioting from a "not guilty" verdict from a jury of his peers than there will be from not being charged in the first place.
Hopefully!
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Man tells police group yelled ?Trayvon,' then beat him
Police are investigating the ?racially motivated? beating of a 27-year-old man who was walking home from midtown bars early Saturday when he said he was jumped by five to eight men who shouted ?Trayvon? before the attack....
We do believe that the crime was racially motivated,? Gainesville Police Department spokeswoman Cpl. Angelina Valuri said....
During what he told police was a five-minute beating, he sustained injuries to the left eye, abrasions to his palms and a cut on his right kneecap, and Valuri said he would likely have ?permanent disfigurement to the left side of his face....?
Read much more here: http://www.gainesville.com/article/20120409/ARTICLES/120409617/1182?Title=Man-tells-police-group-yelled-8216-Trayvon-then-beat-him&tc=ar (http://www.gainesville.com/article/20120409/ARTICLES/120409617/1182?Title=Man-tells-police-group-yelled-8216-Trayvon-then-beat-him&tc=ar)
Maybe after this beating that he took, he would have been justified in using legal self-defense. Probably only after they permanently disfigured his face, though, because before that, the evidence of the beating just wouldn't have been bad enough to justify self-defense.
I would hate to see someone else get Zimmerman'd by special prosecutors, the media, and many fellow carriers alike.
Shame he was unarmed, also I don't know the drinking and carrying laws in FL, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say he couldn't have been CCW anyway, because he was at a bar.
If you're a Caucasian, or white Hispanic, be careful out there this summer. Also, be careful who you use your gun in self-defense, towards. Make sure you've got a huge disparity of force like multiple attackers, and make sure you sustain major permanently disfiguring injuries to your face before you ever think about pulling your gun in lawful self-defense. I'd hate to see anyone here get Zimmerman'd.
Also, the first thing I'm going to do when I get the chance financial is going to be to get some good hand to hand techniques training so that a firearm is not my only option, maybe something good for us all to look into, in case its just a single attacker sitting on top of you beating you. (If you haven't already done so) I carry way too much crap with me to carry something non-lethal on top of a firearm. So hand to hand would be the way to go for me, even though I have back problems.
Be careful out there this summer, and be careful when you decide to use self-defense as well.
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Friends of mine are carrying these: http://www.kimberamerica.com/pepperblaster (http://www.kimberamerica.com/pepperblaster)
They have CCW's but do not carry handguns as they don't believe in lethal force due to the legal implications involved in a shooting.
Just a thought.
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I think my .45 with +p hollows still has a longer range and can disable someone for more than 45 minutes...
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Friends of mine are carrying these: [url]http://www.kimberamerica.com/pepperblaster[/url] ([url]http://www.kimberamerica.com/pepperblaster[/url])
They have CCW's but do not carry handguns as they don't believe in lethal force due to the legal implications involved in a shooting.
Just a thought.
Cool product, I just don't think I can carry another items in my pockets without getting out the batman utility belt.
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Friends of mine are carrying these: [url]http://www.kimberamerica.com/pepperblaster[/url] ([url]http://www.kimberamerica.com/pepperblaster[/url])
They have CCW's but do not carry handguns as they don't believe in lethal force due to the legal implications involved in a shooting.
Just a thought.
i think i need to look into this product more since i know from others on YT in CA that carry them it is legal... its all ive got... :(
only cons are it looks kinda like a sub compact gun like a glock 27 or others in profile and could be mistaken for one in a dark situation and a CCW carrier/ off duty cop ends up shooting you...
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Ken, you can open carry in Calif. if you don't have a magazine in the gun, right? What about concealed carry, you're not allowed to do that? Man, I'm glad I live in Pa.!
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Ken, you can open carry in Calif. if you don't have a magazine in the gun, right? What about concealed carry, you're not allowed to do that? Man, I'm glad I live in Pa.!
yes there use to be a legal open unloaded carry just mag not in the gun but i do believe its been banned at this point for handguns. if it hasnt it will be soon its my understanding the law has passed just not sure when it goes into affect if it hasnt already.
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Ken, you can open carry in Calif. if you don't have a magazine in the gun, right? What about concealed carry, you're not allowed to do that? Man, I'm glad I live in Pa.!
yes there use to be a legal open unloaded carry just mag not in the gun but i do believe its been banned at this point for handguns. if it hasnt it will be soon its my understanding the law has passed just not sure when it goes into affect if it hasnt already.
That's sad.
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How do I feel? I feel tired and sore from rowing the boat while so many shit heads rock it.
The press reports all kinds of jackass things but no matter what outfit you listen to somethings stay constant. I would hazard to say that those constants are the closest to the truth that you will ever get.
Zimmerman is a busy body.
He patrolled his neighborhood for ne'er do wells who were up to no good.
He is a known dick.
These are constants, it doesn't matter who tells the story.
Marten was a child.
He had the right to walk down the road without being molested, haressed or persued by some dick walking cop wanna be.
Now you tell me what you would have done at 16-17 years old if some little shit was following you home from the gas station.
Marten may well have jumped on Zimmerman but Zimmerman didn't have to follow the boy home. Cut and dry.
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I was just checking. It looks like you can concealed carry in Calif. , but you need to jump through hoops to get a license. In Pa. , you can open carry at age 18. To concealed carry, since it is a "shall issue" state. Meaning they have to give you a license unless you are a felon or crazy. You have to be 21, fill out a paper, give them a check for 25.00 and a few days later, your license comes in the mail. Then renew it 4 or 5 years. I can't remember, mine's out in my car.
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In Indiana where I live it is kind of weird in a good way, I guess. The CCW covers both open and concealed carry. My buddy talked me into open-carrying while I was visiting him in Fort Wayne - never do that again. Buncha politically correct hippies up there. In southern Indiana no one gives a crap ow won't think twice about open-carry.
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In Georgia, with a Georgia Weapons Carry License, GWCL, it covers the open carrying and concealed carrying of firearms, knives of a certain length, ect.
You also don't need a license in Georgia to open carry a long gun, as long as you're allowed to own it, ect. In that case, you can't of course open carry it. LOL
I think the license allows you to conceal a long gun, but who would really want to do that anyway.
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How do I feel? I feel tired and sore from rowing the boat while so many shit heads rock it.
The press reports all kinds of jackass things but no matter what outfit you listen to somethings stay constant. I would hazard to say that those constants are the closest to the truth that you will ever get.
Zimmerman is a busy body.
He patrolled his neighborhood for ne'er do wells who were up to no good.
He is a known dick.
These are constants, it doesn't matter who tells the story.
Marten was a child.
He had the right to walk down the road without being molested, haressed or persued by some dick walking cop wanna be.
Now you tell me what you would have done at 16-17 years old if some little shit was following you home from the gas station.
Marten may well have jumped on Zimmerman but Zimmerman didn't have to follow the boy home. Cut and dry.
Punks these days have no respect for adults and realize they can almost litterally get away with murder because they are not an adult yet. what would i have done if i was 17 and a dude was following me around? id get my ass home and tell an adult about it. I sure as hell wouldnt think my best option was to attack the dude. If that is what happened id say thats a testiment to where this 17 yr old mans mind was.
I myself have litterally had teens 14-17 throw rocks at my city vehicle and then run off. one was so ballsy as to chase the truck for a while. knowing how this fucked up world thinks i kept just enough speed for him not to be able to reach the truck... eventually he got tired and gave up. now what kind of a fucked up world is it when a grown ass man has to fear defending himself from a punk kid? how that should have played out was i brake check the little fuck and then hog tie his ass and wait for police.
i have a co-worker who had to move because punk kids that lived on his block were caught in braod daylight trying to break into his house and a neighber said something to them. they told him to mind his own bussiness and he didnt so they broke his neck with a skateboard, and busted out my co-workers talights on his truck. he now is forced to move because of punk kids.
The point im trying to make is weve setup a society where kids can do no wrong and adults no longer have control over their own kids let alone other peoples kids. The best thing that can come of this case is if zimmerman truely is not guilty and deemed self defense and then obama comes on and anounces that this should be a lesson for any other punk kid who thinks hes above the law. i wont hold my breath though.
A perfect example of the first generation of kids that have this mindset are the OWS punks.
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I was just checking. It looks like you can concealed carry in Calif. , but you need to jump through hoops to get a license. In Pa. , you can open carry at age 18. To concealed carry, since it is a "shall issue" state. Meaning they have to give you a license unless you are a felon or crazy. You have to be 21, fill out a paper, give them a check for 25.00 and a few days later, your license comes in the mail. Then renew it 4 or 5 years. I can't remember, mine's out in my car.
Right there is a CCW option in CA but its almost a 0% chance of obtaining one and costs a lot and no refunds if you are denied which is 99% of the time so i dont even consider that an option.
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I was just checking. It looks like you can concealed carry in Calif. , but you need to jump through hoops to get a license. In Pa. , you can open carry at age 18. To concealed carry, since it is a "shall issue" state. Meaning they have to give you a license unless you are a felon or crazy. You have to be 21, fill out a paper, give them a check for 25.00 and a few days later, your license comes in the mail. Then renew it 4 or 5 years. I can't remember, mine's out in my car.
Right there is a CCW option in CA but its almost a 0% chance of obtaining one and costs a lot and no refunds if you are denied which is 99% of the time so i dont even consider that an option.
That's so puke-worthy.
Im sorry Ken, CA sounds like a gun owner's nightmare.
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How do I feel? I feel tired and sore from rowing the boat while so many shit heads rock it.
The press reports all kinds of jackass things but no matter what outfit you listen to somethings stay constant. I would hazard to say that those constants are the closest to the truth that you will ever get.
Zimmerman is a busy body.
He patrolled his neighborhood for ne'er do wells who were up to no good.
He is a known dick.
These are constants, it doesn't matter who tells the story.
Marten was a child.
He had the right to walk down the road without being molested, haressed or persued by some dick walking cop wanna be.
Now you tell me what you would have done at 16-17 years old if some little shit was following you home from the gas station.
Marten may well have jumped on Zimmerman but Zimmerman didn't have to follow the boy home. Cut and dry.
Punks these days have no respect for adults and realize they can almost litterally get away with murder because they are not an adult yet. what would i have done if i was 17 and a dude was following me around? id get my ass home and tell an adult about it. I sure as hell wouldnt think my best option was to attack the dude. If that is what happened id say thats a testiment to where this 17 yr old mans mind was.
I myself have litterally had teens 14-17 throw rocks at my city vehicle and then run off. one was so ballsy as to chase the truck for a while. knowing how this fucked up world thinks i kept just enough speed for him not to be able to reach the truck... eventually he got tired and gave up. now what kind of a fucked up world is it when a grown ass man has to fear defending himself from a punk kid? how that should have played out was i brake check the little fuck and then hog tie his ass and wait for police.
i have a co-worker who had to move because punk kids that lived on his block were caught in braod daylight trying to break into his house and a neighber said something to them. they told him to mind his own bussiness and he didnt so they broke his neck with a skateboard, and busted out my co-workers talights on his truck. he now is forced to move because of punk kids.
The point im trying to make is weve setup a society where kids can do no wrong and adults no longer have control over their own kids let alone other peoples kids. The best thing that can come of this case is if zimmerman truely is not guilty and deemed self defense and then obama comes on and anounces that this should be a lesson for any other punk kid who thinks hes above the law. i wont hold my breath though.
A perfect example of the first generation of kids that have this mindset are the OWS punks.
I hear ya! When I was younger, a neighbor could tell you to get your ass home, and you probably would because if you didn't and you showed any kind of disrespect, you were going to pay for it at home. I also remember when I was younger and ran into one of my friends parents, I'd always say "Hello Mr. or Mrs. so and so". Hell, I've walked up to my daughter and her friends at different town goins ons or school functions, and the friends would look at the ground or away while I talked with my daughter. The looks on their faces would be like, I can't believe this old S.O.B. is even breathing the same air we are. Never say hello or even acknowledge I was standing there. I told my daughter she better always greet the other parents and she ensured me that she does. It's a different world. And not for the better.
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I know what moosejaw is saying. When I picked up my prom date (her dad is still the biggest Mexican I'd ever seen even until now) I was afraid to put my arm around Lorraine for the pictures until her father said it was okay. Fear and respect must make a comeback...
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And no one is going to fear someone with Ken's attitude. Seriously dude I wanted to throw up reading your reply.
Our Society is evolving, everyday 'we' decide that some old wrong is now acceptable and what passed as civil behavior is now to be frowned upon.
Did your countrymen ask you if you agreed?
Did they ask for your input?
They didn't you say?
You are giving your consent via your behavior. When punk ass kids throw rocks at your truck you are telling them it is just fine when all you do is drive away. How about you call the cops, stop the truck, dismount and do what men have done for thousands of years? Whoop some punk ass!
I decided a long time ago that I was not willing to give my constent nor am I willing to stand by while others do wrong.
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And no one is going to fear someone with Ken's attitude. Seriously dude I wanted to throw up reading your reply.
Our Society is evolving, everyday 'we' decide that some old wrong is now acceptable and what passed as civil behavior is now to be frowned upon.
Did your countrymen ask you if you agreed?
Did they ask for your input?
They didn't you say?
You are giving your consent via your behavior. When punk ass kids throw rocks at your truck you are telling them it is just fine when all you do is drive away. How about you call the cops, stop the truck, dismount and do what men have done for thousands of years? Whoop some punk ass!
I decided a long time ago that I was not willing to give my constent nor am I willing to stand by while others do wrong.
while i would normally agree with a view like this, i have to point out that times are very different bro. i don't know about your neck of the woods but around here, a good portion of the murders are committed by teens. leathery mitts and a square jaw just don't cut it no more man. you buck up to one of these little teenager street thugs and you're liable to get shot. (I'm not talking about Martin and Zimmerman anymore, just urban/suburban life in general)
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And no one is going to fear someone with Ken's attitude. Seriously dude I wanted to throw up reading your reply.
Our Society is evolving, everyday 'we' decide that some old wrong is now acceptable and what passed as civil behavior is now to be frowned upon.
Did your countrymen ask you if you agreed?
Did they ask for your input?
They didn't you say?
You are giving your consent via your behavior. When punk ass kids throw rocks at your truck you are telling them it is just fine when all you do is drive away. How about you call the cops, stop the truck, dismount and do what men have done for thousands of years? Whoop some punk ass!
I decided a long time ago that I was not willing to give my constent nor am I willing to stand by while others do wrong.
well in my defense we did call the cops and had to follow them around because just like zimmerman said "they always get away" so we followed them and then told the cops what house they were in, the cops went in and got them and 1 that was 18 got 1 year in prison and the others were out in no time mad doggin like usual except with more tattoos then before.... great system... im sure the under 18 kids learned their lesson... NOT.... the only way they will learn is if they fear an immediate and violent response to their actions... which in zimmermans case means a possible life sentance for carrying out.
The problem with your view of how to deal with these type of situations is that your relying souly on the police to save the day.. in most cases youd be let down if you did so.
the laws are so screwed that if i were to stop id be in trouble because i had a safe getaway and stopped to confront the piece of shit that was trying to reach me. what sick fucking system do we have here when you are required to cower and build the peice of shits confidence for the next guy? it should end right then and there but with our system it cant legally.
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Interesting side thread we have going here.
My liberal next door neighbor has a 3 year old son. William loves my truck. So awhile back he started to wave at me and resently he started to talk to me. He addressed me as John and my wife as Karen. Well I pulled his father aside and suggested that he should call me Mr. John and my wife Mrs. Karen.
Well my neighbor rolled his eyes BUT I will give him credit because William is now addressing me Mr. and my wife as Mrs. I have also noticed he is addressing other adults by Mr. & Mrs. too.
I guess you can teach adults too. :))
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Interesting side thread we have going here.
My liberal next door neighbor has a 3 year old son. William loves my truck. So awhile back he started to wave at me and resently he started to talk to me. He addressed me as John and my wife as Karen. Well I pulled his father aside and suggested that he should call me Mr. John and my wife Mrs. Karen.
Well my neighbor rolled his eyes BUT I will give him credit because William is now addressing me Mr. and my wife as Mrs. I have also noticed he is addressing other adults by Mr. & Mrs. too.
I guess you can teach adults too. :))
Good job JM i like that story. [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
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Yeah,that's the thing. It's a vicious cycle. Parents have to teach their kids respect. But a lot of them don't. I can see Ken's point. You have to be careful of what you say and do anymore. You could end up in a world of trouble. Teachers can't or won't do anything. But sometimes you can't blame them. If they scold little Johnny, man his parents will be down there in a minute, asking why the teacher talked to him that way. The kids feel like they can say and do anything they want, and because of irresponsible parents not teaching them respect, they usually can.
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No, I said call the cops, get down and beat some ass. I would mearly inform the police that when they arrived they would find a working man beating the shit out of some punk kid.
As far as the 'system,' its fucked but you still have the right to a jury of your peers. Provided you've done what's right your peers will agree.
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Nola, die on your feet or live on your knees, your call.
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Nola, die on your feet or live on your knees, your call.
I prefer to live on my feet in an area that's not totally crime ridden. I've lived in my share of nasty neighborhoods. I've lived in one neighborhood in particular that, when I tell any of my black friends that I used to live there, their jaw drops in astonishment that I'm alive. the birth of my daughter changed all that. I moved away from the city and into the burbs (of course I'd rather be totally rural by my personal wants and needs aren't the only ones at play here)
anyway, point is, those fools can murder each other all they want. you're quoting something that has to do with fighting back against government tyranny, not some dumb tough-guy punk kid. of course, employment and other circumstances may force many of us into bad areas sometimes, and I suppose there's not much you can do about that, but at the same time, you can't assume these little thugs have a conscience like you and I do. If you get into a fist fight, is your first instinct to grab a pipe or a knife and kill your opponent? I'd assume probably not. we're talking about "laying a beat-down" on people who would kill you for your pocket change. absolutely no respect for human life. no conscience. (and no, I'm not making generalizations about BLACK PEOPLE, so I ask that no one goes there. I'm talking about the kids with the rocks in Ken's story, and the like, regardless what color they are)
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No, I said call the cops, get down and beat some ass. I would mearly inform the police that when they arrived they would find a working man beating the shit out of some punk kid.
As far as the 'system,' its fucked but you still have the right to a jury of your peers. Provided you've done what's right your peers will agree.
the unfourtunate flaw in your plan is that your peers are mostly ignorant, clueless, bleeding heart fools that will agree with the prosecuter that you could have just driven away to safety. that even though a minor was trying do harm to you. rather then you teach him the lesson any sane person would think he deserves you should have ran away and called the police from a safer location. YOU made the decision to insue the violence... even though he was willing to create violence the final choice to stop the car was on your hands and that makes YOU the guilty one. screw being judged by a jury of my peers...
This thread is a perfect example of that... you think it would be different when YOUR the guy that did it but yet when one of your fellow good citizens does such a thing were ready to lock him up and throw away the key like zimmerman without even hearing the damn facts... if You are this way how do you expect anyone else to act any different for you?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5MGJ87hPGw&feature=player_embedded# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5MGJ87hPGw&feature=player_embedded#)!
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lol... RS, you should check out a documentary called "New Orleans Exposed".... same garbage.
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baaahahahaa! this one's even better that NOLA Exposed... thanks RS... [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
[url=http://www.freesmileys.or
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Hey, I use to throw snow balls at cars....Am I a punk ? :))
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Little by little , the liberals and bleeding hearts gain more ground. We collectively just keep on accepting everything. You bitch about stuff, you come off looking like an old stick in the mud. "Oh, it's no big deal, that's the way things are now. Get over it." After time, they've gained that much more ground. You younger guys will notice it more and more as time goes on. I hate to see what the people will accept as normal in ten years. Parents have to give a s#@t. Teachers and cops have to be aloud to do there job. Parents have to do there job. Conservatives have to quit accepting a little more B.S. at a time. Fight fire with fire.
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Little by little , the liberals and bleeding hearts gain more ground. We collectively just keep on accepting everything. You bitch about stuff, you come off looking like an old stick in the mud. "Oh, it's no big deal, that's the way things are now. Get over it." After time, they've gained that much more ground. You younger guys will notice it more and more as time goes on. I hate to see what the people will accept as normal in ten years. Parents have to give a s#@t. Teachers and cops have to be aloud to do there job. Parents have to do there job. Conservatives have to quit accepting a little more B.S. at a time. Fight fire with fire.
bro, I'm 24, I've only been "awake" for 3 years, and I already see a DRASTIC difference.
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My $ .2 I see a total lack of community when i was growing up if an adult told you something you listened. The police knew you parents and you but now no one gives a shit about their neighbor or gets involved with kids.If people are to prosper they need to be together. Just my $.2
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baaahahahaa! this one's even better that NOLA Exposed... thanks RS...
lol no problem.
As many times as they were racking guns with full magazines WITH their finger on the trigger i was hoping to see an negligent discharge at some point but no. I watched an hour of that noise and no ND. :( (http://www.smileyvault.co
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Yeah, the interesting part was that I live up the road from those idiots. What fun.
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Yeah, the interesting part was that I live up the road from those idiots. What fun.
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uh-oh.
then have your contingencies planned i assume?
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Yeah, the interesting part was that I live up the road from those idiots. What fun.
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uh-oh.
then have your contingencies planned i assume?
LOL! Yeah, I'm gonna haul ass to Arkansas with you. Only a little north.
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Little by little , the liberals and bleeding hearts gain more ground. We collectively just keep on accepting everything. You bitch about stuff, you come off looking like an old stick in the mud. "Oh, it's no big deal, that's the way things are now. Get over it." After time, they've gained that much more ground. You younger guys will notice it more and more as time goes on. I hate to see what the people will accept as normal in ten years. Parents have to give a s#@t. Teachers and cops have to be aloud to do there job. Parents have to do there job. Conservatives have to quit accepting a little more B.S. at a time. Fight fire with fire.
bro, I'm 24, I've only been "awake" for 3 years, and I already see a DRASTIC difference.
29 years old, been awake for going on just under six years, I agree, I've seen a huge drastic change just in my short time as well.
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We Are All George Zimmerman
Andy Warhol predicted that in the future everyone would be world-famous for 15 minutes. What he neglected to mention was that they were just as likely to be infamous.
Zimmerman had decorated his flyers and website with the famous quotation attributed to Edmund Burke, "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil, is that good men do nothing." His activities reveal a man who took those words to heart, who put his time, money and safety on the line to become one of those good men who do something. But the problem was that Zimmerman had been reading Burke, when he should have been reading Kafka.
"Someone must have slandered Josef K., for one morning, without having done anything wrong, he was arrested." That is the famous opening sentence to Kafka's novel, "The Trial", words that have far more to do with the way we live now.
George Zimmerman is not on trial because he shot a black teenager during a scuffle. It's not the facts of the case that brought him here. It's his name. Had his last name been Pereira, none of this would have gone anywhere. And it's not the name alone, it's that in this time and place lynching him will help make the political fortunes of everyone from the man in the White House to his cheerful smiling prosecutor who is already counting her campaign cash and book deals.
Interesting perspective. More here: http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2012/04/we-are-all-george-zimmerman.html (http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2012/04/we-are-all-george-zimmerman.html)
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Little by little , the liberals and bleeding hearts gain more ground. We collectively just keep on accepting everything. You bitch about stuff, you come off looking like an old stick in the mud. "Oh, it's no big deal, that's the way things are now. Get over it." After time, they've gained that much more ground. You younger guys will notice it more and more as time goes on. I hate to see what the people will accept as normal in ten years. Parents have to give a s#@t. Teachers and cops have to be aloud to do there job. Parents have to do there job. Conservatives have to quit accepting a little more B.S. at a time. Fight fire with fire.
bro, I'm 24, I've only been "awake" for 3 years, and I already see a DRASTIC difference.
29 years old, been awake for going on just under six years, I agree, I've seen a huge drastic change just in my short time as well.
You younger guys are seeing things change a lot faster than they ever did before. In decades past the PTB made tyrannical changes and power grabs in little chunks or tiny bites at a time. In the past few years, especially the last 4, they are doing it almost every week with something new being forced upon us. Some of it in scope and audacity is quite shocking. It's almost like information overload.
They have definitely accelerated what they are doing.
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Little by little , the liberals and bleeding hearts gain more ground. We collectively just keep on accepting everything. You bitch about stuff, you come off looking like an old stick in the mud. "Oh, it's no big deal, that's the way things are now. Get over it." After time, they've gained that much more ground. You younger guys will notice it more and more as time goes on. I hate to see what the people will accept as normal in ten years. Parents have to give a s#@t. Teachers and cops have to be aloud to do there job. Parents have to do there job. Conservatives have to quit accepting a little more B.S. at a time. Fight fire with fire.
bro, I'm 24, I've only been "awake" for 3 years, and I already see a DRASTIC difference.
29 years old, been awake for going on just under six years, I agree, I've seen a huge drastic change just in my short time as well.
You younger guys are seeing things change a lot faster than they ever did before. In decades past the PTB made tyrannical changes and power grabs in little chunks or tiny bites at a time. In the past few years, especially the last 4, they are doing it almost every week with something new being forced upon us. Some of it in scope and audacity is quite shocking. It's almost like information overload.
They have definitely accelerated what they are doing.
You are exactly right Sledge! It is being done much faster now and with much more audacity. They used to sneak stuff past you. Now it's "Yeah, we're screwing you. What are you going to do about it? Just before I read your last post, I was sitting here all pissed off wanting to type in how much all of this s@#t nowadays infuriates me. I was having trouble finding the words. In reality, I have the words. But there are way too many of them! I wish all of it would slow down some. It is almost impossible to enjoy the pursuit of happiness anymore. There are all these parasites that keep taking and taking. There are all of these " politically correct" a@#holes telling me how to live. Screw politically correct! I don't have to be politically correct. Who the hell are these parasites to tell me what's correct? Take care of yourselves and quit sponging off of me. Then you can say what you want and I'll say what I want. Last night, Some family members and I got into a heated discussion over this Treyvon/ Zimmerman subject. I basically said wait until all of the facts come out before the guy gets convicted. They, (fueled by emotion and influence) already had the guy up the river. I kind of ended the arguement when I requested the name of the 78 year old man that was beaten by the 6 youths while saying this is for Treyvon. It got a lot quieter very fast. None of them could give me a name. I rest my case. Anyway, I don't now where this world is heading. But it is getting harder and harder to enjoy the pursuit of happiness.
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Stated very well by both of our much wiser counterparts. [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
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[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5MGJ87hPGw&feature=player_embedded#[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5MGJ87hPGw&feature=player_embedded#[/url])!
WTF
I'm sorry, but I watched 2 minutes of that garbage and witnessed every stereotype manifest itself through all of those foolish ass-clowns. They live like they're in a fucking zoo, what pathetic lifeforms. Sure as shit would make for some "plinking" target practice in my neck of the woods if any of that crap was pulled in my community in wrol.
you didn't watch long enough to see the part where the start finding random white people and beating them senseless and robbing them.. and they literally say "I'm 'bout to find me a cracka cuz dey got da money... I need to eat"...
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To JMc story. Im in my 30s and i still use Mr, Mrs, Sir and Mam. But then again i took some ass whoopins for being a disrespectful little punk when i was a kid. :))
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I always use Sir or Ma'am, or Mr. or Mrs. unless I'm specificually instructed not to, and it happens way more that you would imagine.
Even then, I still mess up and use, Sir a lot, even though they told me not to.
I never took a beating for it, its just the way I was raised.
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Dont get me wron ERJ. i was using whoopin as a metaphor. I was always reminded to be respectful and most of the acctuall whoopins i got i really did deserve. I guess i could have worded that better lol.
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EJR [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co me too.
Our neighbors to the north of us are in their seventies and I have lived where I do for over 15 years. My wife and I still call them Mr. & Mrs Simpson.
A few years ago my wife inherited her dad's house post his passing. The next door neighbors to that house my wife calls Mr or Mrs Forsyth and they too are in their seventies. They have been Karen's dad's neighbors since 1961 and my wife and I are in our mid 50's.
Funny stuff!!!
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You will have to forgive Ken; studies show that any time spent in California will rot your brain...
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You will have to forgive Ken; studies show that any time spent in California will rot your brain...
im not sure i follow... im the one least acting as a californian based on my posts.
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Judge removes herself from Trayvon Martin case
http://youtu.be/sv5H60U1JfQ (http://youtu.be/sv5H60U1JfQ)
The judge presiding over the Trayvon Martin shooting case removed herself Wednesday after the attorney for defendant George Zimmerman argued she had a possible conflict of interest that related to her husband. (April 18)
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damn i thought zimmerman was supposidly a big stocky dude according to the media. he looks like he weighs around 150-170..
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damn i thought zimmerman was supposidly a big stocky dude according to the media. he looks like he weighs around 150-170..
and Trayvon is supposed to weigh 85 pounds soaking wet with a pocket full of pennies... (and skittles).. lol
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damn i thought zimmerman was supposidly a big stocky dude according to the media. he looks like he weighs around 150-170..
and Trayvon is supposed to weigh 85 pounds soaking wet with a pocket full of pennies... (and skittles).. lol
lol yeah... its funny how the body type descriptions were reversed. i think a defense lawer could possibly make the point that a 6'3 tall dude in good shape could be considered a lethal threat to a man of zimmermans stature without any sort of weapon.
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Zimmerman GIVES HIS FIRST INTERVIEW! WATCH HERE!
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/18/george-zimmerman-says-prays-for-trayvon-martin-parents-daily/ (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/18/george-zimmerman-says-prays-for-trayvon-martin-parents-daily/)
That's a bit shocking he did that, but if the evidence proves his story to be true, as he gives great detail, then I have to back up his claims of self-defense.
He slammed his head into the pavement to the point where he was about to go UNCONSCIOUS. If he had gone unconscious, Martin could have done ANYTHING to Z. Including killing him or putting him into a coma. The definition of grave bodily injury.
He also claims Martin tried to suffocate him, and Martin said he was going to kill him.
Z is also making the claim that Martin made a move for his pistol on his side. Martin also told Z that he was going to kill him, after Martin noticed his gun. Was Martin going to try and use Z's own gun against him and kill him?
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Completely laughable interview. Of course it's easy for one side to embellish a story when the other party is dead.
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Completely laughable interview. Of course it's easy for one side to embellish a story when the other party is dead.
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I don't disagree with you, but with the available evidence, plus whatever evidence that hasn't been made public yet, plus the witness reports that vet the story, I don't think he's embellishing the story all that much. Furthermore, if you examine his body language, he doesn't show many of the tell-tale signs of a liar. He doesn't even seem all that nervous. Of course I'm sure he's been coached by his attorney for that interview but regardless of prior coaching, he's still telling his story on national television.
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We will have to wait and see if the PHYSICAL evidence matches up to his story. From what I have seen, the physical evidence matches up with all parts of his story.