Advantages of a .338 over more common, less expensive calibers.

[rah45]

I'll probably be an early participant assuming I get a job. I'd like to get this Savage .338 I've had my eye on for awhile and the DPMS REPR. Only thing that gets me with the Savage is the price of .338 Lapua. 

I'm not trying to be a know-it-all, as many here know more about caliber selection than I do. However, how much difference would there be between the .338 caliber, in expensive rifles, compared to a 7.62x54r or 7.62 NATO/.308 rifle? What makes the price difference worth the increased cost? Both the calibers I listed are capable of making kills at several hundred or even a thousand yards, plus they're common. The rifles that fire them (in bolt-action at least) are economical, and you can buy used ones for even less that will run perfectly fine.

[crudos]

Read an interesting article in the new Shotgun News about .300 Win. Mag. as an alternative to .338 Lapua. Link below....

http://www.shotgunnews.com/2012/01/05/classic-american-muscle-the-300-win-mag/

That said, my choice is 7.62x54r. Cheap and decent range if I do my part.

[WhiteWolf]

Umm..........It's not a debate issue. I'm not looking at the rifle as a primary or even really a defense weapon. It's strictly a want. If I were interested in caliber I'd put away for a .50. I just happen to really like the look, feel, action, trigger, etc. of that particular Savage rifle. It's a great price for a bolt action .338 compared to other vendors also. Plus, I already have rifles chambered for .308 and 7.62x54r.

[rah45]

Umm..........It's not a debate issue. I'm not looking at the rifle as a primary or even really a defense weapon. It's strictly a want. If I were interested in caliber I'd put away for a .50. I just happen to really like the look, feel, action, trigger, etc. of that particular Savage rifle. It's a great price for a bolt action .338 compared to other vendors also. Plus, I already have rifles chambered for .308 and 7.62x54r.

Oh, okay. Sorry, I just assumed that if you wanted to get it over other necessary supplies that you needed it for a role. Post pics if you do!

[WhiteWolf]

Umm..........It's not a debate issue. I'm not looking at the rifle as a primary or even really a defense weapon. It's strictly a want. If I were interested in caliber I'd put away for a .50. I just happen to really like the look, feel, action, trigger, etc. of that particular Savage rifle. It's a great price for a bolt action .338 compared to other vendors also. Plus, I already have rifles chambered for .308 and 7.62x54r.

Oh, okay. Sorry, I just assumed that if you wanted to get it over other necessary supplies that you needed it for a role. Post pics if you do!

Sure thing. It'll probably be the last gun I get though. The DPMS REPR is more a necessity. I may trade my AR in towards it honestly. As far as other supplies........I'm good. Actually my wife and I were talking about reducing some and maybe taking stuff to a food bank or homeless shelter.

[mountainredneck2051]

I'll probably be an early participant assuming I get a job. I'd like to get this Savage .338 I've had my eye on for awhile and the DPMS REPR. Only thing that gets me with the Savage is the price of .338 Lapua. 

I'm not trying to be a know-it-all, as many here know more about caliber selection than I do. However, how much difference would there be between the .338 caliber, in expensive rifles, compared to a 7.62x54r or 7.62 NATO/.308 rifle? What makes the price difference worth the increased cost? Both the calibers I listed are capable of making kills at several hundred or even a thousand yards, plus they're common. The rifles that fire them (in bolt-action at least) are economical, and you can buy used ones for even less that will run perfectly fine.

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=338+lapua+vs+308&um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&sa=N&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&biw=1600&bih=771&tbm=isch&tbnid=XSO5Tz0Cn6xHwM:&imgrefurl=http://benchrest.com/showthread.php%3F80890-338-Lapua-Build-Question/page2&docid=LmWl_uER40WIzM&imgurl=http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a1cc26b3127ccefe9b6afc5e6200000030O02QZsmjZw5aA9vPgw/cC/f%25253D0/ps%25253D50/r%25253D0/rx%25253D550/ry%25253D400/&w=550&h=400&ei=e8wVT-29LYKPigLZ3rTsDQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=166&vpy=196&dur=2842&hovh=191&hovw=263&tx=158&ty=123&sig=115386336870202086337&page=2&tbnh=121&tbnw=155&start=34&ndsp=32&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:34


thats all i got to say

[mountainredneck2051]

I'll probably be an early participant assuming I get a job. I'd like to get this Savage .338 I've had my eye on for awhile and the DPMS REPR. Only thing that gets me with the Savage is the price of .338 Lapua. 

I'm not trying to be a know-it-all, as many here know more about caliber selection than I do. However, how much difference would there be between the .338 caliber, in expensive rifles, compared to a 7.62x54r or 7.62 NATO/.308 rifle? What makes the price difference worth the increased cost? Both the calibers I listed are capable of making kills at several hundred or even a thousand yards, plus they're common. The rifles that fire them (in bolt-action at least) are economical, and you can buy used ones for even less that will run perfectly fine.

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=338+lapua+vs+308&um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&sa=N&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&biw=1600&bih=771&tbm=isch&tbnid=XSO5Tz0Cn6xHwM:&imgrefurl=http://benchrest.com/showthread.php%3F80890-338-Lapua-Build-Question/page2&docid=LmWl_uER40WIzM&imgurl=http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a1cc26b3127ccefe9b6afc5e6200000030O02QZsmjZw5aA9vPgw/cC/f%25253D0/ps%25253D50/r%25253D0/rx%25253D550/ry%25253D400/&w=550&h=400&ei=e8wVT-29LYKPigLZ3rTsDQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=166&vpy=196&dur=2842&hovh=191&hovw=263&tx=158&ty=123&sig=115386336870202086337&page=2&tbnh=121&tbnw=155&start=34&ndsp=32&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:34


thats all i got to say

btw the little one is a 308

[rah45]

Yes, yes, but bigger is not always better. The performance that you actually require to complete a job, the cost of the weapons platform and its ammunition, your ability to practice, all play a part in which is the "better" option. I was initially under the impression this would satisfy his DM weapon role, and was concerned he might be get a weapon that would prove to be much more expensive than he needed for that particular role. 

[Kentactic]

.338 is specifically designed to shoot futher then the listed calibers. if all you need to shoot is 800 yards... dont lug out the 25lb .338... if you want to shoot to 1500 yards your going to want the .338 its still only designed to hit and kill stuff at ranges but the difference is how far away it can do it. ... and for $6 a round of match grade ill get my fat ass 500 yards closer and shoot them with the .308.

[mountainredneck2051]

dont get me wrong im not a big 338lapua fan myself

for the money you invest in it you might aswell buy a fuckin 50bmg and really open up your capabilities....

i actually am warming up to the 308, i even bought a socom16

[backwoodsboy]

338 lapua may sound cool but instead of that try a 300 weatherby, my uncle has one, when he shoots a deer it makes quite a mess, he took a 8 point a couple years back at 909 yards, he has all the increments for the scope adjustment ritten on a paper so he know how many clicks for a certain distance.

[mountainredneck2051]

338 lapua may sound cool but instead of that try a 300 weatherby, my uncle has one, when he shoots a deer it makes quite a mess, he took a 8 point a couple years back at 909 yards, he has all the increments for the scope adjustment ritten on a paper so he know how many clicks for a certain distance.

338lapua is more common more powerful round

really if your gonna get a big fuckin rifle round and your gonna pay that much anyways i still say go 50bmg or 338 lapua

or 300win mag it is catching on as a military round aswell

[backwoodsboy]

i agree on the 50, and yeah i hear the most lethal sniper chris kyle used a 300 win mag.

[1000meterstare]

If you just won the lottery...go with the .338.  Accuracy international makes a .338 that's only like 13 lbs.  The gun is custom and expensive; so is the round.  But if you have the $$ you can get 600 more yards out of what I like to call a .30-cal sized package.  (Size/weight of the rifle)

[Kentactic]

If you just won the lottery...go with the .338.  Accuracy international makes a .338 that's only like 13 lbs.  The gun is custom and expensive; so is the round.  But if you have the $$ you can get 600 more yards out of what I like to call a .30-cal sized package.  (Size/weight of the rifle)

Linky to this 13lb .338 rifle ? i need to see it to believe it.

[rah45]

If you just won the lottery...go with the .338.  Accuracy international makes a .338 that's only like 13 lbs.  The gun is custom and expensive; so is the round.  But if you have the $$ you can get 600 more yards out of what I like to call a .30-cal sized package.  (Size/weight of the rifle)

Linky to this 13lb .338 rifle ? i need to see it to believe it.

I googled and found this 14.3 lb version...

I went to A.I.'s website, and also found something that might interest you, Ken: http://www.accuracyinternational.com/aics_kits.php.

[Kentactic]

If you just won the lottery...go with the .338.  Accuracy international makes a .338 that's only like 13 lbs.  The gun is custom and expensive; so is the round.  But if you have the $$ you can get 600 more yards out of what I like to call a .30-cal sized package.  (Size/weight of the rifle)

Linky to this 13lb .338 rifle ? i need to see it to believe it.

I googled and found this 14.3 lb version...

I went to A.I.'s website, and also found something that might interest you, Ken: http://www.accuracyinternational.com/aics_kits.php.

The wikipedia link isnt really adding up...it gives one weight for several caliber options...thats impossible... and im guessing thats prior to any optics. thanks for googling around though rah i dont mean to shoot down your efforts.

and the second link is "Forbidden" which makes me more interested... lol 

[rah45]

Oh, I just skimmed the Wiki page, just gave it to you for reference...I assumed the weight might differ, but that it wouldn't vary too much from the 14.3. I looked on the manufacturer's website for the weight info, but couldn't find it. You'd think they'd give the specs for their products, eh? 

LOL @ the last. The link is the page I wanted you to see, but I cannot access it, either. WTF? I was just on it!

[Kentactic]

ya i just find it hard to believe that they have a .338 thats 13lbs especially with an AICS stock because the AICS stocks ive seen all are heavy as fuck...like 6lbs... that dosent leave much room for the rest of the gun... my Rem 700's B&C stock is 2lbs and thats a smaller caliber rifle and it still weighs in at around 13lbs.

[WhiteWolf]

Am I missing something? What's the big deal with 13lbs? The Savage model 11/111 is only about 10lbs in .338 lapua. The Savage 110 Bask in .338 I want is about 15lbs.

[Kentactic]

Am I missing something? What's the big deal with 13lbs? The Savage model 11/111 is only about 10lbs in .338 lapua. The Savage 110 Bask in .338 I want is about 15lbs.

if you plan to just aim by looking down the barrel then your set.

my SPS Tactical was only 7.5lbs out of the box... it gained 5lbs before it was ready to shoot.

[WhiteWolf]

Am I missing something? What's the big deal with 13lbs? The Savage model 11/111 is only about 10lbs in .338 lapua. The Savage 110 Bask in .338 I want is about 15lbs.

if you plan to just aim by looking down the barrel then your set.

my SPS Tactical was only 7.5lbs out of the box... it gained 5lbs before it was ready to shoot.

Gotchya. Well I won't be slapping on anything to fancy. Just a scope, bipod, and sling.

[1000meterstare]

I made an honest mistake; it was the accuracy international I was referring to.  So I was off by a pound or so.

[Kentactic]

I made an honest mistake; it was the accuracy international I was referring to.  So I was off by a pound or so.

whats it feel like to make a mistake?... ive never done it before... 

[1000meterstare]

You live in California don't you?  OWWWWW!!!!   [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at