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Water Purified
« on: March 19, 2022, 01:41:48 PM »
25 oz. bottle with build in, rechargeable UV disinfection cap.  USB hook up for recharging onboard battery.  Look around Amazon.  They have numerous price ranges.

Looks interesting.  Thoughts?

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https://www.amazon.com/CrazyCap-Self-Cleaning-Purification-Insulated-Stainless/dp/B09JMZK7TP
« Last Edit: March 19, 2022, 01:43:42 PM by Nemo »
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Re: Water Purified
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2022, 09:05:55 PM »
I can see the possible utility for today's I can't wait generation, but for me this is a pass.  I'd just fill up a bottle(s) out of my home water purifier and be done with it. (I use 4 AquaPure filters and have for the last 8 years with no issues).

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Re: Water Purified
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2022, 09:17:08 PM »
Suppose you're out in the Okefenokee and need to refill a jug.

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Re: Water Purified
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2022, 01:10:09 AM »
I'm not going to say that is a bad product but I will say that its not for me. Canteens are pretty much for folks slogging through the woods with a bug out pack and they should know how to filter and then boil water to make it clean and then pure. A battery operated UV canteen just doesn't seem practical and $40 is a lot to pay for a canteen. I bought a whole bunch of those Dollar Tree Aluminum water bottles and put one in each Bug out Pack.

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Re: Water Purified
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2022, 07:46:19 AM »
PKv. I bet you could heat up H20 in those aluminum water bottles too.  ;)
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Re: Water Purified
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2022, 08:51:33 AM »
I used to watch videos from a guy that would test out cheap Chicom electronics, and either see if they worked at all as advertised, or if they contained some safety flaws that could make them dangerous or even deadly under the right circumstances. He got on a UV light kick for a while in the beginning of the scamdemic. What he found is that a lot of the so-called "UV-C" LED's were in fact fake, they were actually UV-A lights or "Black Lights", which do nothing to sterilize or sanitize. UV-C lights or LED's must have a quartz lens or body, regular glass or plastic won't work. And real UV-C lights are almost invisible, they have just a faint blue or teal glow. If the light is purple, it's almost certainly fake.

Here's an article talking about the fake lights: https://www.prolampsales.com/blogs/specialty-architectural-lighting/that-uvc-led-you-bought-on-amazon-probably-doesnt-work

When I'm hiking, I use a Katadyn (now PUR) Hiker Pro filter for all my water. I have quick disconnects on the filter and my water bladder, so I can stop and filter 3 liters of water right into my pack without taking it off. I usually get a good summer of use out of a filter, and I stock lots of spares. I've used iodine to purify water, and I don't recommend it. At all. At the same time, it's one of the most important things you need to worry about in the woods. I've had Giardiasis, and it knocked me down for 3 solid days of just laying in the tent, with occasional mad dashes to the treeline. I also carry a Sawyer Mini filter in my EDC bag, I know some people use the squeeze filter but I refuse to put untreated water into any container I carry. Too much chance of cross-contamination.

You don't even have to boil water, you can pasteurize it over 140F, they make solar bottles that can do this if you have sunshine, and it's strong enough to heat the water.

I also give out Lifestraws to people as stocking stuffers (what a fun guy I am!) they're ok in a real dire emergency but I find them hard to draw a good drink through without making your jaw and cheeks sore.

My best friend lives off-grid, and uses ceramic gravity filters for all his water. Just have to watch some of the cheaper ones are fake. I have datasheets around someplace that show how to make your own ceramic filters, sure the info is available somewhere online.
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Re: Water Purified
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2022, 08:06:36 PM »
I am a fan of Kathadin (PUR) and MSR  water filters.  My MSR miniworks is over 10 years old and has produced  well into the low hundred gallons of water for me over the years.  Even for at home in storm/power outages etc it has been great. For more volume I would go with their larger unit or the Kathadin.

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Re: Water Purified
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2022, 10:38:12 PM »
Just stumbling across older posts - late to the party as always.

Something you may not have considered about UV treatment - it does not kill the bugs in your water.  UV light alters DNA so bugs can't reproduce. You'll find UV treatment descriptions like this:  "UV light is normally effective against all viruses, bacteria and protozoa..."  But, they are still alive when you swallow them. Yuck right. Other considerations are that cloudy water interferes with the UV light, so filtration is needed anyways. And "microorganisms such as Cryptosporidium and Giardia have protective or thick cell walls that some low power UV light systems are not able to penetrate."

The things I consider when filling up my container are: what's floating in it, what's swimming in it, are their chemicals in it?
->For floating things like dirt, plants and otherwise harmless media, I filter it.
->For swimming things like viruses, bacteria and protozoa, and microorganisms like as Cryptosporidium and Giardia, I boil it then filter it, OR use chemical treatments like chlorine or iodine, then filter it. (Boiling and chemical treatment work, but I don't like washing back dead bugs so I filter it afterwards.) I rarely use chemical treatments.
->For chemicals in your water like pesticides or other water treatment chemicals that have an unpleasant taste, I use an activated carbon filter in tandem with a water filter.
*For Chemical treatments like Chlorine and Iodine, it's important to note that other chemicals present in the water can react with your water treatment chemical and take it out of action (reduce its effectiveness). Also, chemical treatment requires specific treatment times for a given volumes of water, and is even effected by the water's temperature; the colder the water, the slower the reaction.
*Filtering your water is probably all you need to do, in North America as they say. But, strain it first. Don't clog your filter with puddle water, pre-filter it to an acceptable clarity. use a bandana, your shirt, get creative.
*Lastly: Seek good water sources. Don't filter puddle water.

There's so much to cover, this is just a small sample of what's out there. Know your area.

Sources:

Wilderness First Aid student handbook 2010

https://www.portablewaterfilters.org/water-filter-guide/particle-contaminant-size-chart-microns/

https://ww2.health.wa.gov.au/Articles/U_Z/Ultraviolet-disinfection-of-drinking-water#:~:text=Yes.,are%20not%20able%20to%20penetrate.

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Re: Water Purified
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2022, 11:34:02 PM »
I had a Katadyn water filter from back in the days that Jim Whitaker was still mentioned at the original REI Seattle store.   Used it on many backpack trips.  Kept me healthy processing even the most questionable water at wildlife-infested springs/seeps.  Pulled it out after a gazillion years in storage without use and the damn pump plunger handle snapped!    Plastic apparently has a "life span".
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