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Offline JohnyMac

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Suppressor - Changes to my AR
« on: April 18, 2019, 09:44:27 AM »
Last Saturday, I was at my Class III friends house shooting my AR with my hopefully, soon possess, suppressor.

Anyhow, my friend was standing to my right side listening to my suppressor with different ammo being used and he said, "take your can off and shoot your AR un-suppressed." Which I did.

Then he said, "Okay, put your suppressor back on and shoot." Again I did as he said.

Well once I did that, he explained to me that my AR wasn't cycling properly.

1) My brass was only ejecting 4-6 feet from me, and
2) My rifle bolt looked and sounded sluggish.

He then asked me to load up my magazine with 5-rounds and shoot as fast as I could. I did and by the third round I had a jam. He then asked me to load up 2-rounds and fire as fast as I could. Both rounds got slung down the range BUT the bolt carrier did not remain open when the mag was empty.

He asked me to pull out the bolt and we cleaned it and reoiled it. Then did the 5-round, 2-round redux and again my rifle had similar results as written above.

Well off to his shop we went.

When in his shop he took out my buffer and spring and weighed my original Colt buffer and it was 3.8 OZ. He took a buffer from one of his SBR and weighed it and it was 3.0 OZ. So he swapped out the 3.8-OZ for the 3-OZ and off to the range again.

I ran the above exercises all over again and VIOLA! I had no other issues. My bolt wasn't sluggish, I had no jams, and when the mag was empty my bolt remained open.

He scratched his head and said, "usually when you run a suppressor you have to add a heavier buffer but not with your Dead Air". I asked him if that was good or bad and he replied "neither. It is what your rifle likes."

My friend went on to comment that he thought that the Dead Air can was doing a great job dispersing the gasses so there was minimal "blow back" unlike many other suppressors he has used during his tenure in this business.

Interesting...
« Last Edit: April 18, 2019, 10:05:15 AM by JohnyMac »
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Re: Suppressor - Changes to my AR
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2019, 10:59:16 AM »
Johny

I have found the similar results with my Deadair Sandman K can.  I have found that I do not need either an adjustable gas block or to change out my buffers from unsuppressed to suppressed. Also I found that my BCG though a little dirtier is not significantly worse when using my can. Compared to when I ran both a Silencerco and a Surefire the difference is night and day. I also dont take nearly the gas to the face that I did when I had my Surefire.  The only can I have found better was the NG2 , which is unfortunately a direct thread only can.  Most of the guys I shoot with that have other cans run with adjustable gas blocks for when they have their cans on.  With my Deadair i use normal fixed gas blocks.

I just ordered a Deadair Nomad to compliment my Sandman K.  This is mainly for my shorter guns like my 10.5" and if I go with a 6.5CM that I have been toying with.

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Re: Suppressor - Changes to my AR
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2019, 07:53:55 AM »
Very interesting indeed. I wish I could own one.....

You know I am taking a trip up once you possess that :D
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Re: Suppressor - Changes to my AR
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2019, 10:01:55 AM »
Absolutely Patriotman and anybody else who would like to play.
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Re: Suppressor - Changes to my AR
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2019, 12:57:23 PM »
 :cheers:
Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight: My goodness, and my fortress; my high tower, and my deliverer; my shield, and he in whom I trust; who subdueth my people under me.

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