Post your kit thread

[thatGuy]

And no-one wants to bang their head into shit... just saying..

[Burt Gummer]

Are you talking weight distribution or tightness of the head harness?
Because my neck used to get tired but never my head.

[Currahee]

And no-one wants to bang their head into shit... just saying..

I need to wear the shit while I'm taking a dump.  The wife comes in, gets something out of the cabinet above me- leaves it open, stand up, BAM!!! (Once is an accident, once a week is a deliberate ambush.)

Burt, a helmet is just a whole lot more comfortable than a skull crusher

[Burt Gummer]

Loud 'n clear.

[JohnyMac]

Currahee wrote:
I need to wear the shit while I'm taking a dump.  The wife comes in, gets something out of the cabinet above me- leaves it open, stand up, BAM!!! (Once is an accident, once a week is a deliberate ambush.)

  

[USMC0331]

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CURRENT RIG

- 1st Line
  - Gun Belt
    - EDC
      - 9:00   (1) (16rnd) G17 mag / (1) flashlight
      - 3:00   G17 in Kydex OWB


    - EDC +
      - 11:00 flashlight in front pocket
      - 9:00 kydex (22rnd)pistol/(22rnd)pistol/(28rnd)rifle pouch
      - 3:00  G17 in Kydex OWB
      - Cargo pocket (BOK = Cerlox & SWAT-T)

    - Sunglasses
    - iPhone
    - K-Bar sm. TDI fixed blade
    - Custom noise clipping ear plugs
    - Asolo Hikers
    - ASP Defender
    - Ironkey with critical docs & portable apps
    - Baseball cap
    - GI Fleece


- 2nd Line
  - Heavy belt
    - TT Duty belt
      - Condor MOLLE pad on TT duty belt
      - 11:00 Kydex pistol pouch (G17 22nds 9mm)
      - 9:00 Condor (1-2mag) AR15 Mag pouch (28-56 rnds 556mm)
      - 7:30 TT dump pouch (w/ H2O filter bottle)
      - 6:00 SOE BOK
      - 5:30 E&E kit / GPS
      - 4:30 Condor (1-2mag) AR15 Mag pouch (28-56 rnds 556mm)
      - 3:00 Glock 17 w/TLR-1 in 6280 (22rnds 9mm)
      - 2:00 Dbl pistol mag pouch (G17 mag 16 rnds 9mm & Leatherman Super-tool)



  - Banshee PC
    - 11:00 radio w/mike
    - 12:00 (3-6) AR15 mags
    - 12:30  SOG Multi-tool
    - 1:00 CAT-T
    - Gloves on biner



  - TT ROP "Battle Pack"
    - Fighting Gear
      - Leica 1600 LRF
      - (4) Loaded AR15 magazines
    - Medical
      - BOK Inside Ziplock
        - IZZY-D / Cerlox / Asher / #14 needle / Naso & lube / SWAT-T
    - Food / Water
      - (1) MRE’s broken down
      - (10) Hard candies
      - (2) instant coffee packets
      - (3) ltr water reservoir (full)  /
      - Titanium Spork
    - Shelter / Hygiene
      - GI Poncho
      - Tyvek tarp w/ Mylar casualty blanket sewn in between 2 layers
      - (1) Skivi roll
        - Summer
          - underarmor longsleve Summer shirt
          - wool blend socks
          - skivies
        - Winter
          - underarmor longsleve Winter shirt
          - wool blend socks
          - poly long-johns
          - skivies
      - Shemagh
      - Misc kit:
        - H2O purification tablets
        - (10) ft 550 green
        - (3) ft 550 orange
        - (4) ranger bands
        - Camo
        - Moleskin
        - Deet
        - Bag Balm
        - Ibuprofen, Benadryl
        - Baby Wipes
        - Dental floss, safety pins, needles
        - Triple Ointment
        - Butterfly / Normal Bandages
        - 6" zip-tys
    - Tools & More
      - SPARK Gen1+ NV Monocular w/(2) spare CR123s
      - (2) smoke grenades

[Burt Gummer]

Nice rig.
does your pack integrate with your belt?
&
What's your radio with mike?

[JohnyMac]

DVC,
as Burt wrote, "nice rig!"

[crudos]

DVC, your ready to rock-it with that set-up. 

[USMC0331]

Nice rig.
does your pack integrate with your belt?
&
What's your radio with mike?

No integration, I just piled it all up for the pic.  I have two radio types (TYT-UHF1 & Baofeng UV-5R) but after using both, I will leave the 5R's for handouts and carry the TYT in this rig.  Both radios use Kenwood parts and the mike is a KMC-17

I've re-worked that list a million times, but am pretty happy with the setup now.  I use it on Mondays at Practical Rifle to stay use to it's weight and keep shaking out the gear.  The pack goes into a Large Alice to complete my BOB setup which is still in flux.

The top picture is my EDC+ setup and is not worn with the rest which is the 2nd line Heavy.

[USMC0331]

DVC, your ready to rock-it with that set-up. 

It's a good balance for me.  I spend 3-4 hours in it every Monday running drills and am not worn out by the weight.  Total I think it's near 45lbs with armor and water in the pack.  I'd have to double check that number though, it's likely a bit lighter.

[Burt Gummer]

I have two radio types (TYT-UHF1 & Baofeng UV-5R) but after using both, I will leave the 5R's for handouts and carry the TYT in this rig.  Both radios use Kenwood parts and the mike is a KMC-17

Good price on that dual band
Out of curiosity, what kind of engagement scenario do you have that battle pack set up for? 
Just tell me it's none of my business, if that's the case.

[USMC0331]

@gunner,
My whole "heavy" second line (I include the "battle pack" as second line) is grab & go for vehicle ops or OP around the property if things get bad enough to need exterior security patrols/OP/LP in a grid down or great depression scenario.

My idea is to keep things as flexible as I can and somewhat layered with the pack being non-essentials but important ad on items like NV/extra med/ammo/shelter.

EDC+ and PC (partial lo-pro)
EDC+ and PC and Pack (partial lo-pro w/ pack for surveillance mounted ops)
Battle belt and PC and Pack (hi-pro full battle rattle for static position or movement to contact)
Battle belt and pack (several day long patrol)
Battle belt (long range patrol, short time out)

[JohnyMac]

Hey DVC,

the Practical Rifle program at MR&PC looks pretty cool. I wish there was somewhere near me that offered that.

Some great stuff man! 

I am running the Baofeng UV5 on my battle belt. The TYT UVF1 is only $110- and you think it is better...If you can would you explain your comparison between the two and why here or start a new topic.

Thanks

[Burt Gummer]

Understood.

[USMC0331]

Weights (I guessed 45lb, reality = 58.4 as shown + 10.8 for carbine = 69.2lb although the PC and pack would rarely be carried together for much distance.)  Training with it all on does not seem that bad, but I'm going to have to try cutting that down. 

- Warbelt 14.4lb
- Banshee PC 22lb
- TT ROP  22lb
- Loaded Carbine10.8lb

[USMC0331]

@johnny,
The 5r is a great budget setup, the TYT is just a notch up IMO as far as ruggedness/speaker clarity/Overall size and doesn't have a light that might come on by accident.

Both are the same for handheld programming, they suck, and both are easily programmed with CHIRPS.

[Burt Gummer]

I'm not certain of your occupational background, but if I'd have to guess it's mil/law.
And you are applying your operational experience to you new scenario. Recognize that in this new position you don't have that logistical support you could count on previously.
Now to my point, with your current set up what is your operational distance/time? (D/T) Previously you'd supply, head out, operate and return. With a "prepper" scenario that is not guarenteed. At which point the attenuation of your capabilities will be more deadly then bullets.

When I put my kit together* I recognized that having arbitrary quantities of supplies like food, water, batteries was just careless guesswork and that I would need to maintain all of them for as long as possible and have a means to resupply them without undue increase in risk.
I can relate to your kit and the idea behind it (sound a bit weird), because you've layered it almost the same way I have mine. EDC, Belt, PC, Pack.  The only thing i'm not seeing is if you've considered your D/T with layers removed.

My EDC layer gives me a maximum of 2 days of E&E with out resupply before shadows start looking like bad guys. (I'm working on a bail out kit and would welcome some ideas)
My EDC + Belt gives me 3 days of operational reconnaissance capacity + the ability to resupply bare essentials.
My LBV  allows communications & engagement possibility.
My EDC + Belt + Pack gives me 8 days with the ability to resupply food, water, power indefinitely.

* Yes I don't have it posted here it just always seems unfinished to me. I'll make an effort to post it. 

[JohnyMac]

Thanks DVC for your thoughts/experience on the radios 

I hear ya Burt. I have been meaning to post a picture of my stuff BUT it never seems to be done. For example I am having a new "retention holster" made for my new battle pistol. When I receive it I will post. 

Yupper, I am moving from my 1911 to a 9mm on my battle rattle. I know that this is heresy to many of you. I saw the benefit of carrying 39 rounds vs. 24 in three mags when doing some recent training. Can't afford a new handgun so I am going to be carrying my trusty Browning Hi-Power. Not as sexy as a H&K P30 or Sig P220 but what the heck...Use what youz gotz. 
   

[rah45]

A brief aside:

Actually Johnny, if you look around there are pretty good deals on polymer 9 mm pistols. I was having trouble with my Sig P250 (read: we weren't meant for each other) and traded it pretty much straight even for a Sig SP2022, the polymer version of the Sig P226. It even came with night sights! :-D

Anyways, point is if you don't have the money but are looking for a newer model 9 mm pistol, there are some great trades to be made.

[USMC0331]

I'm not certain of your occupational background, but if I'd have to guess it's mil/law.
And you are applying your operational experience to you new scenario. Recognize that in this new position you don't have that logistical support you could count on previously.
Now to my point, with your current set up what is your operational distance/time? (D/T) Previously you'd supply, head out, operate and return. With a "prepper" scenario that is not guarenteed. At which point the attenuation of your capabilities will be more deadly then bullets.

I'm not sure what you mean?  What other scenario is guaranteed? 

My gear reflects my mission that crosses over from property patrol (belt), to vehicle / static OP, OPS.

There is no guerrilla warfare in the plan and no need for extended supply past a day as it's Alamo or bust for me.
 

[crudos]

Thanks DVC for your thoughts/experience on the radios 

I hear ya Burt. I have been meaning to post a picture of my stuff BUT it never seems to be done. For example I am having a new "retention holster" made for my new battle pistol. When I receive it I will post. 

Yupper, I am moving from my 1911 to a 9mm on my battle rattle. I know that this is heresy to many of you. I saw the benefit of carrying 39 rounds vs. 24 in three mags when doing some recent training. Can't afford a new handgun so I am going to be carrying my trusty Browning Hi-Power. Not as sexy as a H&K P30 or Sig P220 but what the heck...Use what youz gotz. 
   

BHP is tried and true JM, but like Rah mentioned, there are some fantastic deals on new 9mm out there, as there seems to be a glut after the panic buying of the last couple of years. Might be a good time to jump on them before the next panic. Could have kicked myself for not scoring a Sig 2022 for well under $400 not that long ago.

[rah45]

Be sure to look for things like Night sights when you're browsing. Used Sigs, I find, are more likely than other brands to have the "SigLite" night sights because they're their own brand. Good deals on used pistols with aftermarket night sights don't seem as common. If anyone else knows of a company that is similar, I'd like to know about it.

[USMC0331]

@burt & Johnny
Post up your stuff even if it ain't finished. You can always put on the list stuff you are gong to get also.

If you wait until it's perfect, it will never be posted. Also the point is to start a discussion on WHY your setup is how it is (as Burt has done) not show off pretty gear.

[Burt Gummer]

There is no guerrilla warfare in the plan and no need for extended supply past a day as it's Alamo or bust for me.

Then your rig is excellent for an Alamo scenario.

But why settle for "bust"? Why limit your mobility?

Because shit will happen.

Your onsite water could run dry, or become contaminated with something.
Bad fire discipline could damage a critical renewable you were counting on.
Poor weather, vehicle accident, etc.
Any number of things could render your Alamo unsecured or unsustainable without a siege.

I'm not trying to be a prick here and play devils advocate. It's just that what ever hardship you or I or any one else for that mater it is going to be facing can be traced back to not having a supporting economy to sustain ourselves. And while "preppers" or what ever the hell we are try and localize that sustaining human habitat (economy). The option of nomadic ability is often thrown by the wayside. Don't misunderstand me a complex economy is the future. but an ability to separate ourselves from it lest the price becomes to high (not necessarily money) is a freedom and tactical advantage I relish.