This is my Draco

[Rail Driver]

There are many like it. This one is mine:

[sledge]

And it's a fine one Rail Driver.  Thanks for sharing a picture of your love.

[505th.NM.Militia]

Where did you get that handguard?

[WhiskeyJack]

Dude that pistol grip looks like it came off a 1911. Nice gun man

[RONSERESURPLUS]

Rail Driver

Very Nice, Is that one a Mini-Draco or Full size? I'm not that up on them?


RON l

[DownRange1776]

I have been looking at the Draco's for a little now and would like to get one and make an SBR.

Great looking Draco, how does she shoot?

[Ghost]

They kind of remind me of these


http://www.frontierfirearms.ca/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=17_677_678&products_id=5143


Something that we CAN own, funny enough.


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[Dave_M]

Dude that pistol grip looks like it came off a 1911. Nice gun man

I don't know what method Rail Driver used but one way it could be accomplished is buying an ACE grip adapter:
http://www.parallaxtactical.com/store/ace-ar15-to-ak47-grip-adapter-205.html

and then using a 1911-style AR grip:
http://www.pearcegrip.com/Products/AR15/PG-AR15

Alternatively, you can just outright modify an AR grip to fit an AK. It takes a few minutes with a dremel to open up the front and a new hole has to be drilled. A shorter section of screw has to be used to secure it, obviously.

[Rail Driver]

It's a mini draco, and shoots great with the slot brake. Almost no recoil.

I modified the original handguard into what you see in the pic. Dave_M is right, I modified the 1911 grip to fit. I've got the same grip on my .22LR AR-15 as well.

[RONSERESURPLUS]

Thanks Rail Driver

The Pics and all were Great! I thought it might have been a Mini-Draco, as it looked shorter and Different than Draco's I'd seen at Local shows? Nice work and thanks for sharing with us here!

RON L

[Rail Driver]

Thanks Rail Driver

The Pics and all were Great! I thought it might have been a Mini-Draco, as it looked shorter and Different than Draco's I'd seen at Local shows? Nice work and thanks for sharing with us here!

RON L

Thanks to everyone for the kind words.

At first I was going to get a standard Draco, but I figure if I'm going to go to the lengths required to SBR this thing, then I want it as short as possible, and the Mini has the shortest gas system I've ever seen on an AK pattern firearm (Krinkov gas system is ~1/4" longer as is the barrel) and it's been as reliable as any other AK I've ever fired (though not nearly as accurate as the saiga I had awhile back)

[Rail Driver]

Where did you get that handguard?

Here's a better picture of it:



The magazine and dust cover also have the "snakeskin" pattern, but it's not as easy to see with my POS camera.

[Kobalt]

Dude that is sweet!

[505th.NM.Militia]

Did you remanufacture the hotdog that came with it or did you purchase seperately?  I buddy got the mini recently, and is lookin' for a good handguard. 

[Rail Driver]

Did you remanufacture the hotdog that came with it or did you purchase seperately?  I buddy got the mini recently, and is lookin' for a good handguard.

I did the wood work on the original. I didn't figure it would be worth reselling, and it didn't take more than a couple hours to do. If your friend would like, I can do his for $30 (+ $8 return shipping) just have him get in touch with me.

[505th.NM.Militia]

That's great work man, I have the original wood handgaurd that came with my 10.5" draco and might do some work to it.  Love the paint as well.  So far I have gotten the slant break installed, single point sling recessed in after market polymer pistol grip, 3 way rail with led strobe flashlight, gas block enameled, and cut the notch out of the safety to retain the bolt open.  The only thing I really want to get is a drum and an ultimax. 

[Dave_M]

SBR it or no point IMO

[Rail Driver]

That's great work man, I have the original wood handgaurd that came with my 10.5" draco and might do some work to it.  Love the paint as well.  So far I have gotten the slant break installed, single point sling recessed in after market polymer pistol grip, 3 way rail with led strobe flashlight, gas block enameled, and cut the notch out of the safety to retain the bolt open.  The only thing I really want to get is a drum and an ultimax.

Thanks. I'm thinking about getting a full size draco after I finish converting the Saiga I just bought with Tromix side folding skeleton stock, SAW grip until I can order 1911 grips, SGM tri-rail, not sure what brake I want to put on it yet... G2 FCG. I'll be moving the bolt to the left side as soon as I can get ahold of a welder (doing the same to my mini draco as well) as long as it will clear the stock... If I have to, I might modify the stock so that it clears the bolt handle on the left.

@Dave_M: The point of it all is that it's a fun gun to shoot, and using a sling (properly) it's almost as stable as with a stock. I do actually plan to SBR it, but not until I buy a house. Besides... My hobby happens to be customizing and (safely) modifying my firearms in ways that make them shoot better, more reliably, and/or more comfortably for me, so for you maybe there is no point but for me I rather enjoy the process.

[505th.NM.Militia]

I'm with you Dave, but I can go with a long ass compliance break as well with an ace sidefolder and vfg.  But a stamp would be sweet.  The sbr would allow the gun to be very configurable:  Stock folded draco style.  Stock folded  with drum, and VFG thompson style.  Unfolded SBR, unfolded with bipod. 

[Rail Driver]

long ass compliance break

I think the mini would look extremely silly with a 9" brake on the end... The full size draco would look a little better since all you need is 5.5" or 6"

[505th.NM.Militia]

Driver, since the 9" can is a no go on the mini (even though you see 'em all the time on less caliber pistol conversions) yeah I'm talkin about compliance for my full size.  I'm worried about 2 things:  a 5 3/4" break affecting the ballistics and the overall collapsability of the converted weapon.   

[Rail Driver]

Driver, since the 9" can is a no go on the mini (even though you see 'em all the time on less caliber pistol conversions) yeah I'm talkin about compliance for my full size.  I'm worried about 2 things:  a 5 3/4" break affecting the ballistics and the overall collapsability of the converted weapon.

Your ballistics shouldn't be affected enough to notice (maybe a slightly lower point of impact vs. with no muzzle device). 16" is 16" whether part of it is muzzle brake or not, so you'll definitely want a folding stock if you need portability.

[Dave_M]

@Dave_M: The point of it all is that it's a fun gun to shoot, and using a sling (properly) it's almost as stable as with a stock.

I guess we disagree about what, 'almost as' equates to

[Rail Driver]

@Dave_M: The point of it all is that it's a fun gun to shoot, and using a sling (properly) it's almost as stable as with a stock.

I guess we disagree about what, 'almost as' equates to

You must not have been trained on the proper use of a sling. It helps make the idea a little more palatable if you've had a physics class or two, but I'd rather not get into it as I'm not much of a teacher.

In any case, a single point sling at the rear of the receiver, looped over the firing shoulder and pulled tight is a very stable platform to shoot from (though it isn't an EASY way of shooting. It has its purposes). The only real difference aside from a more compact system, is that instead of pulling the gun into your shoulder, you're pushing it away from you. It IS tiring, but it's effective. It's also my only option for the time being until I can afford a $200 stamp and a bunch of other red tape BS.

In any case, it is what it is. If you don't like it, don't do it.

[Dave_M]

You must not have been trained on the proper use of a sling.

Yah, that must be it
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