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Offline Nemo

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Proton Mail
« on: January 04, 2025, 02:42:28 PM »
There might be less than we think.

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https://x.com/officialmcafee/status/1218492518003810304
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Offline Jackalope

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Re: Proton Mail
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2025, 03:21:41 PM »
He makes a good point.  With today?s quantum computing, I imagine all messages are readable.  Meatspace, is the only way to pass important information.
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Offline Sir John Honeybucket

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Re: Proton Mail
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2025, 06:14:09 PM »
The use of any "SECURE" e-mail is highly suspect.  I use encrypted e-mail for PRIVACY against advertisers , not even close to assuming that anything available to me is "SECURE". The hardware is not manufactured under my control, the operating systems are downloaded from sources I do not control and etc.  Bandwidth online is so broad that THEY(tm) could download keyboard captures and screen shots from my computer all day long, and I probably would not notice. I went to 'privacy systems' when targeted advertising began hitting my mail , reflecting interests of my friend on the other end of the Yahoo mail link.  He was getting advertisements for chickens and I was getting them for handgun competitions... I had hens at the time and he had been a competition shooter in times past.

In short, if you require SECURE , don't use anything with a microprocessor in it, as a start.

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Re: Proton Mail
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2025, 07:00:51 PM »
Time to start raising pigeons again?
(even without ruby slippers, they find their way home again)
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Re: Proton Mail
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2025, 12:36:27 PM »
I think that (content wise) the only secure form of communication is HF digital using a OTP (One Time Pad) key. "They" will still know that X person sent it to Y person but content would not be able to be deciphered.

I have set up winlink and am looking for a person/partner to TX/RX too in PTP (Person to person) mode.  :thumbsUp:

Last, in the big picture scheme of things, I always think that "They" will be able to eventually decipher a message. My goal is to not make it NOT easy for them to do so.  ;D
« Last Edit: January 05, 2025, 04:08:59 PM by JohnyMac »
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Re: Proton Mail
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2025, 01:51:08 PM »
Privacy is a spectrum.  Don't be the low hanging fruit for AI data collection and prediction.

If you must use a smartphone, try flashing Graphene OS.   
Don't install apps that maintain access to the microphone.
Don't enable location services.
Don't install augmented reality apps or games.

The Pokemon Go - CIA conspiracy was verified recently:

https://archive.fo/1SVcp

https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=EVmZy95vMUc

Ad companies, Facebook and Huawei, have data sharing agreements for cell tower data.   Even if you don't use those services, your cellphone probably transits a tower they surveil. 

Thiel's Palantir was triangulating cellphone location and correlating patterns of behavior 20 years ago in AFG to select drone strike targets.   

Proton Mail is affiliated with the esotericists at CERN.
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Re: Proton Mail
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2025, 03:58:44 PM »
Simple solution to privacy issues inherent with all the latest and greatest "Smart Phones"?
Perhaps a return to the good old "dinosaur" flip phones.   (assuming the ones currently available haven't been loaded up with honey traps)

Having WiFi, internet, computing power to the nth degree in your pocket is all very fine.
But is it worth it?     Can't wait to use your "old" tower or laptop?

Personally, I miss my old flip.   Went in any pocket.   Never a worry over cracked/broken screen... could fall off my horse any old where and it was always ready for business regardless.
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Re: Proton Mail
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2025, 08:38:09 AM »
"I have set up winlink and am looking for a person/partner to TX/RX too in PTP (Person to person) mode."

I have experience with WinLink peer to peer txing. I try to connect every Wednesday during a peer to peer session with KN4LQN using this link for practice:
https://winlinkwednesday.net/reminder.html

I don't have any experience with one-time pad. I have notes about it, but I've never used it.
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Re: Proton Mail
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2025, 10:59:18 AM »
Quote from: JohnyMac on January 05, 2025, 12:36:27 PM

I have set up winlink and am looking for a person/partner to TX/RX too in PTP (Person to person) mode.  :thumbsUp:


John, I am available. UPM and I did some winlink P2P testing awhile back.
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