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General Category => Security & Survival => Topic started by: Kobalt on September 05, 2011, 06:26:09 PM

Title: I might break down, and drink the koolaid.
Post by: Kobalt on September 05, 2011, 06:26:09 PM
With the lack of 5.45, I think I should go with a ar15 or a 556 ak. What do you think?
Title: Re: I might break down, and drink the koolaid.
Post by: 505th.NM.Militia on September 05, 2011, 07:45:34 PM
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With the lack of 5.45, I think I should go with a ar15 or a 7.62 ak. What do you think?


FTFY  I know there are 5.56 AKs, but why?  if you want a great 5.56 gun, get the AR.  If you want an AK, go 7.62 x 39/54 all the way.

I don't understand 5.56 AK's anymore than I understand ARs in .50 cal. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WStHgVY-dGs&feature=related 

First shot at 1:40 in...



 

Title: Re: I might break down, and drink the koolaid.
Post by: sledge on September 05, 2011, 08:05:51 PM
I agee.  If you are going to go 5.56 then get an AR.  The round will give you (Choke) better distance so you might as well go for accuracy as well with the tighter tolerances.
Title: Re: I might break down, and drink the koolaid.
Post by: southern patriot on September 05, 2011, 08:16:14 PM
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With the lack of 5.45, I think I should go with a ar15 or a 7.62 ak. What do you think?

 
FTFY  I know there are 5.56 AKs, but why?  if you want a great 5.56 gun, get the AR.  If you want an AK, go 7.62 x 39/54 all the way.

I don't understand 5.56 AK's anymore than I understand ARs in .50 cal. 


[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WStHgVY-dGs&feature=related [/url]

First shot at 1:40 in...


Whats your opinion on ar's chambered for 7.62???
Title: Re: I might break down, and drink the koolaid.
Post by: Reaver on September 05, 2011, 08:41:44 PM
With the lack of 5.45, I think I should go with a ar15 or a 556 ak. What do you think?

The 5.56 AK is a horrible idea... think " magazine availability "

and what are you talking about lack of 5.45 just order a case offline.
Title: Re: I might break down, and drink the koolaid.
Post by: Kobalt on September 05, 2011, 08:50:13 PM
With the lack of 5.45, I think I should go with a ar15 or a 556 ak. What do you think?

The 5.56 AK is a horrible idea... think " magazine availability "

and what are you talking about lack of 5.45 just order a case offline.
I mean the fact that 545 is imported.
Title: Re: I might break down, and drink the koolaid.
Post by: Reaver on September 05, 2011, 10:48:28 PM
With the lack of 5.45, I think I should go with a ar15 or a 556 ak. What do you think?

The 5.56 AK is a horrible idea... think " magazine availability "

and what are you talking about lack of 5.45 just order a case offline.
I mean the fact that 545 is imported.

SO STOCK UP its cheap make it happen.
Title: Re: I might break down, and drink the koolaid.
Post by: Kobalt on September 05, 2011, 11:06:44 PM
With the lack of 5.45, I think I should go with a ar15 or a 556 ak. What do you think?

The 5.56 AK is a horrible idea... think " magazine availability "

and what are you talking about lack of 5.45 just order a case offline.
I mean the fact that 545 is imported.

SO STOCK UP its cheap make it happen.

I feel like drinking the koolaid this once. I think Ill get a ar.
Title: Re: I might break down, and drink the koolaid.
Post by: NOLA556 on September 05, 2011, 11:24:43 PM
I think there's more kool-aid to be drunk on the AK side, my friend.
Title: Re: I might break down, and drink the koolaid.
Post by: Reaver on September 05, 2011, 11:26:39 PM
Well at least you nutted up and made somewhat of a wise decision.

I'd rather see you with a weapon that I disagree with than a stupid weapon that I disagree with.
Title: Re: I might break down, and drink the koolaid.
Post by: southern patriot on September 05, 2011, 11:37:40 PM
Well at least you nutted up and made somewhat of a wise decision.

I'd rather see you with a weapon that I disagree with than a stupid weapon that I disagree with.


Lol...well said!
Title: Re: I might break down, and drink the koolaid.
Post by: Reaver on September 06, 2011, 12:55:06 AM
Well at least you nutted up and made somewhat of a wise decision.

I'd rather see you with a weapon that I disagree with than a stupid weapon that I disagree with.



Lol...well said!


 [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co Thanks brother.
Title: Re: I might break down, and drink the koolaid.
Post by: papabear on September 06, 2011, 03:15:29 PM
The AR is a great gun as is the AK but the choice is ultimately yours and you need to figure out what works best for you.
Write out a list of what the pros and cons are for each as well as what they are for your ao and see what you come up with.
Title: AK in 223?
Post by: RONSERESURPLUS on September 06, 2011, 06:41:40 PM
Hello all, RON L here - SERE SURPLUS



Thier was a Time with The Romanaian SAR-3 was easiy had and readily avalible and then I would recomend an AK in 223, Now that they have all but dried up, I still see the SAR-2's show up in 5.45X39, but like many, I am concerned about imports and unlike 7.62X39, thier is just not as much of that Bulk ammo inthe us yet, in time that may change? No, for right now I'd say AR in 223, AK in 7.62x39, unless you wanna stock up on a Maga dose of crated 5.45X39? Reloading for that Caliber is Possible but not easy to do, nor cheap! I well see the use of BOTH AR ad AK when the situation calls for it and a different System is not always a Bad thing! Support it with ammo and spare parts that are critical and you have yet another ammo ability to use?
Title: Re: I might break down, and drink the koolaid.
Post by: TreadOnMeNot on September 06, 2011, 07:09:27 PM
The price of most Ar's could have you a nice Ak and thousands of rounds of 7.62 or 5.45 and a good amount of magazines. Use should use your money wisely.  [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
Title: Re: I might break down, and drink the koolaid.
Post by: RONSERESURPLUS on September 06, 2011, 10:12:32 PM
Yes, well said Treadonmenot, many ways to "skin that rabit"?  Unlike man I prefer Multiple platforms as long as I can feed them and parts to maintain them, I se no down side? Foplks will haver to get out, try the different ones and see whats works best for thier situation, as I a nd many of you all did, right?
Title: Re: I might break down, and drink the koolaid.
Post by: thatGuy on September 06, 2011, 10:20:26 PM
Where are all these nice AKs people keep talking about? All I am seeing is poorly slapped together rifles that at best were mountians of wore out parts to begin with.
Title: Re: I might break down, and drink the koolaid.
Post by: sledge on September 06, 2011, 10:27:46 PM
Where are all these nice AKs people keep talking about? All I am seeing is poorly slapped together rifles that at best were mountians of wore out parts to begin with.


This guy makes a nice gun.  I think his basic model in wood starts about $599.  Same finish.  I've got no complaints with mine.

http://www.gunauction.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=10543177
Title: Re: I might break down, and drink the koolaid.
Post by: Kobalt on September 06, 2011, 10:53:48 PM
Where are all these nice AKs people keep talking about? All I am seeing is poorly slapped together rifles that at best were mountians of wore out parts to begin with.
Hey thatguy Im talking about arsenals, which are brand new.
Title: Re: I might break down, and drink the koolaid.
Post by: Reaver on September 07, 2011, 12:34:36 AM
Where are all these nice AKs people keep talking about? All I am seeing is poorly slapped together rifles that at best were mountians of wore out parts to begin with.

Hey thatguy Im talking about arsenals, which are brand new.


Not that I follow nutnfancy to the nut or anything. But from my experience these.
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct838.aspx & these http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct961.aspx
are the best of the best. Brand new Saiga's that are converted to the very fucking letter of russian army specs.

Go somewhere and just hold one. You will see what I mean.
Title: Re: I might break down, and drink the koolaid.
Post by: goodnightChesty1775 on September 07, 2011, 01:25:02 AM
shit lack of 545 you can stock 2+x that  than 556! do that mang!!!
Title: Re: I might break down, and drink the koolaid.
Post by: NeverEnuffAmmo on September 07, 2011, 01:33:11 AM
Here's a real simple solution ........ get one of each.

The Ak is by far the better rifle, but the AR is the best platform for the .223/5.56 and the facts are that in this country .223/5/56 will always be more available and easier to get ahold of (especially in a SHTF situation) than 7.62, it sucks to say it but it true.
Title: Re: I might break down, and drink the koolaid.
Post by: southern patriot on September 07, 2011, 05:42:53 AM
Idk....every place i purchase ammo for my ar,theres the same if not more 7.62 ammo for sale as well.

But thats the reason we "prep" theres plenty of tomatoes and cucumbers right now,but i bet when tshtf i'll be able to find 7.62 ammo b4 i can find a salad!
Title: I'm not sure it's about Drinking the "Koolaid"?
Post by: RONSERESURPLUS on September 07, 2011, 08:10:55 AM
Hello all, RON L here!!

  As I read all the various Posts and opinions, I'm not sure this is so much about "Drinking the Koolaid" so much for AR or AK, as it is making an Informed Decision based onthe facts and your needs? Same way one would Pick a Car or a Mate, we do it for Solid, Real Reasons and not as a Fad or as everyone else is doing it, Right????