Unchained Preppers
General Category => Security & Survival => Topic started by: PatriotSeeker on August 31, 2011, 03:18:04 PM
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Ive been getting kinda bummed about my situation with my primary rifle, the WASR-10/63. My first AK clone. Well, it looked pretty from far away, but up close its a mess. The front sights are canted, hell, the back sight block is canted too. Sits to the right. So my quad rail and sights look weird from behind the gun, like they are leaning. I could just fix the red dot to zero and hope it stays, but should I really depend on a rifle if I cant aim it properly? I cant find anyone who can fix it either. So ive been thinking, should I sell it anf become an AR dude? Come to think about it, my gear is made for AR equippment. So I wouldnt be losing on much. But can I even sell it? I got it for 420, I put in a quad rail and a red dot I might be able to get around what I payed for. Anyone know how I should go about the AR set-up? Im not rich, so Imma have to go for a cheaper set-up. Let me know what you guys think. And if any NM guys wanna look at it for me, be my guest, ill roll by sometime.
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I really love my AK though. i hoped to use this as my main. :( This is something that really bumms me out. Im pretty sure If I knew it could be fixed that I would do it.
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You get what you pay for. [img]http://www.smileydesign.n
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Okay kid, dont try to school the teacher. Im looking for some suggestions for what I have now. Same thing can be said about your bb guns, but hey, Im nice.
Anyways, Im Ive never tried out a rail side attachment. Are they any good? they look more stable than sights and rails on the gas block.
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Im not trying to sound like a dick, this is my honest .02. from prepping brother to prepping brother.
If your rifle is in that bad of shape you could be risking your life if you fix the problems. there is a chance that if you fix the block and the metal gets worm in one spot or another, you may have the thing blow up in your hand over the next 500 rounds afterwords.
If you are looking at getting into AR's. i would say. sell the WASR to a shop or a private seller for 300 bux( enclude the red dot and quad rail.) and buy a complete lower.
you can buy lowers from Gun broker at 185.00 out the door. and they are made by the same machining company as Spikes tactical...here is the link http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=246002360 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=246002360)
that leaves you 115 to put towards a Upper. they say its cheaper to build your own but if its your first time with an AR. id just buy the upper and lower complete and get a very basic idea of what you have. before you are in over your head.
also you can contact anyone who has one with any questions about companies or what you are doing.
Happy hunting and if you have any questions just ask
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Yeah, ive been doing a little research on lowers and uppers. but those uppers are hella expensive! Im going to try it though. My AK actually holds a zero with sights, and with the iron sights, at 100 yards, I just have match the rear sights slightly to the right of the front sight peg, making up for the canted sight. So far I can hit bullsey from about 150. So is it really a problem?
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Yeah, ive been doing a little research on lowers and uppers. but those uppers are hella expensive! Im going to try it though. My AK actually holds a zero with sights, and with the iron sights, at 100 yards, I just have match the rear sights slightly to the right of the front sight peg, making up for the canted sight. So far I can hit bullsey from about 150. So is it really a problem?
not being a dick, again
that sounds right for ak47 but. here is a link for afew good uppers http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-Standard-16-LIGHT-WEIGHT-Upper-Receiver-p/bcm-urg-car-16lw.htm (http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-Standard-16-LIGHT-WEIGHT-Upper-Receiver-p/bcm-urg-car-16lw.htm) add a handguard and a rear sight and you have a complete rifle.
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-M4-16-Upper-Receiver-Group-p/bcm-urg-m4-16.htm (http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-M4-16-Upper-Receiver-Group-p/bcm-urg-m4-16.htm)
if you have 115 left out of your sale of the ak47. it will only cost you 300 for the upper. and getting a BCG is 100 bux or less. so for only 400 bucks and the sale of your ak47. you have a rifle that is a solid well working machine
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Thanks brother, and why do you think you sound like a dick? I asked, so I was told, worked out perfect. Except for the kid, hes a little dickish, but thats expected. Lol , j/k
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WASR-10's are famous for their ugly finishes. I've got to look at myself in the mirror every morning so I obviously have no problem with loving ugly. If it really bothers you get some Home Depot camo in a can and paint it. As for your front sight you can get a sight canting adjustment tool for about 7 bucks on line anywhere.
You kind of sound like you really wanted an AR. If that's the case sell it and get one. Those AR's can sure be sexy looking and quite tempting. My problem is that once you try ugly it's hard to go back.
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WASR-10's are famous for their ugly finishes. I've got to look at myself in the mirror every morning so I obviously have no problem with loving ugly. If it really bothers you get some Home Depot camo in a can and paint it. As for your front sight you can get a sight canting adjustment tool for about 7 bucks on line anywhere.
You kind of sound like you really wanted an AR. If that's the case sell it and get one. Those AR's can sure be sexy looking and quite tempting. My problem is that once you try ugly it's hard to go back.
I do love my AK though, that big ass 762x39 round screaming downrange. Nothing beats it. But I am swaying towards getting a AR. Mights get a AK later on again, but a good one. I just need to stock pile the bills.
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Thanks brother, and why do you think you sound like a dick? I asked, so I was told, worked out perfect. Except for the kid, hes a little dickish, but thats expected. Lol , j/k
i dont want to sound like a dick, making the comments about 150 yards being normal for an ak47 and afew others ...i dont want to piss people off when i come at them with facts.
if you can only hit 150 or less then its a no brainer
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Thanks brother, and why do you think you sound like a dick? I asked, so I was told, worked out perfect. Except for the kid, hes a little dickish, but thats expected. Lol , j/k
Sorry for being a dick. [url=http://yoursmiles.org/p-m
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Im just kidding man. you are alright. That Young Blood tag makes my day. hahaha [url=http://www.freesmileys.or
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You shouldn't change your state of mind because of a lemon.
Think about it logistically, all the training you have done with the AK goes to waste. & now you have to start from scratch with an AR to hell with that.
Drop the cheap ass Wasr get your self an SGL. I mean the kid maybe out of place. But he does have a point. " you buy once you cry once "
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You shouldn't change your state of mind because of a lemon.
Think about it logistically, all the training you have done with the AK goes to waste. & now you have to start from scratch with an AR to hell with that.
Drop the cheap ass Wasr get your self an SGL. I mean the kid maybe out of place. But he does have a point. " you buy once you cry once "
Thanks reaver.
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Exactly, that how I feel. I can fight with an AK hella fine. But with an AR, who knows yet? Ive done soo much AK training. And you know, it fits me. And i love field stripping my AK. You can have that much fun field stripping with an AR. I totally agree with you there though. Buying bad shit happens. I have mad respect for the AK platform. FUCKING LOVE IT.
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A WASR is WASR is a WASR.
You run the risk of the good/bad/ugly/shit when dealing with WASR's. Occasionally you get a decent one.
Quite frankly though, even the "good" ones are only a shadow of a real AK.
I'd sell it. Buy a from a reputable builder or importer. Buy a SAIGA and do a conversion...
Best ways to get a good AK I know of short of building your own.
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You shouldn't change your state of mind because of a lemon.
Think about it logistically, all the training you have done with the AK goes to waste. & now you have to start from scratch with an AR to hell with that.
Drop the cheap ass Wasr get your self an SGL. I mean the kid maybe out of place. But he does have a point. " you buy once you cry once "
quite YOU !!! ....This one is mine !!
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A WASR is WASR is a WASR.
You run the risk of the good/bad/ugly/shit when dealing with WASR's. Occasionally you get a decent one.
Quite frankly though, even the "good" ones are only a shadow of a real AK.
I'd sell it. Buy a from a reputable builder or importer. Buy a SAIGA and do a conversion...
Best ways to get a good AK I know of short of building your own.
yeah, thats what I'm talking about.
Bro the SGL's are just that. except Atlantic firearms does their conversions and their builds to Russian Army Spec.
Do your research. The SGL series rifle's ARE the best AKs you will find any where on the market.
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct819.aspx
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When I got my first WASR the front sight was canted, so I beat on it with a hammer till was aligned and it was fine... so was the hammer. If a deal I'm working on falls through and you still want to get rid of it I'll take it off your hands in a few months.
Edited by thatGuy: Don't hit the front sight post with a hammer!
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I agree with reaver on this one go with an SGL or an interarms AK, the IAC AK's are very well made and I dare say damn near as good as an SGL21 or 31.
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I agree with reaver on this one go with an SGL or an interarms AK, the IAC AK's are very well made and I dare say damn near as good as an SGL21 or 31.
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I have never had an issue with my wasr but thats prolly a fluke lol. They have a front site tool on CTD that is under 15 bucks.i will say from my personal experiance that both platforms are great. I just feel that the AK is going to travel a much longer& harder road in a world with out gunsmiths available. I loved my M-4 when i was in the army. But i bet my familys life on the AK not breaking down on my ass when the gunshops are all looted and the gunsmiths nowhere to be found. Just my 0.2 Bro. Do whats right for you and yours. Good luck
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Sell it and buy another one that isn't fucked up, or better yet buy a yugo or polish one. Doesn't really matter as long as you check it out BEFORE you buy it.
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Hello all, RON L here
As with so many things many ways to go, yes, You could Bundle it up and sell it to someone, (Hopefully telling him of all it's faults), or, as I have done and so many have before you, FIX IT??? None of the Issues that are Mentioned here (Canted sites, Firing issues) or the like are impossible nor hard to Fix? I will Post the Link to the AK Forum, folks that routinly Build, Fix and dismantle AK's all day long and night long!! If they can't fix it then YUP SELL THAT PUPPY!!! But, as inthe case of my old 97 Neon, I'd rather fix it then sell it for another? Here is the Link and good Luck?? I'll also except a PM to help ya fix it in HOUSE:
http://www.theakforum.net/
If these folks can't help ya fix it or fix tat themselves it's bount for the trash can!
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All you got to do is push out the front sight pins and then tap it over with a hammer. Then you drill out the holes to the next larger size(1/8") and install new pins that are made from 1/8" stock. Rolling a front sight isn't really a hard job if you are handy. I would love to do it for you if I could only find the time.
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That guy
RON L here
I've done a Few and they can be a Pain inthe ass to get the old Pins out! Once ya do, it's not that hard and all, and yes, re-drill and new pins makes it all OK then? No Problems on AK are all that hard to Fix, Unless it was Poorly Built then you spend a Lot of time truing up the state of that Build?
RON
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Not really much that they can fuck up that we can't fix, right Ron?
Don't get me wrong there are issues that at too "costly" to fix but most problems with an AK are just like this one. Stupid mistakes that were made in the assembly process.
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One of the many reasons to not buy a Wasr without inspecting it first and firsthand knowledge of said inspection process.
No, I don't own any Wasr's anymore. I agree with Techniques advice about buying a Saiga.
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Hello all, RON L here
Well stated That guy, Yes, I've seen some weapons so screwed up (AK's Included) that no $ would fit them? That said, those were far and rare, most AK issues like the Canted Sites, Trigger slap, and other problems as you SO WELL STATED WERE POOR ASSEMBLY ISSUES! The WASR's Get the Bad Rap, but lets be Honest many of the Maddi MISR (Post Bad Maddi Egyptian AK"s assembled with a mix of China made and other parts), were just as Bad a WASR's are at times, I've seen a few Norenco and Poly Tech Pre-bans with Canted sites with all sorts of trigger slap and no opne seems to remember that?? (Maybe I'm just old), But more Likely the Romanian product is more curent and folks remeber isses with them clearer and more recent? No matter who made, if it's messed up, slow and stady d-sassemblya nd re-assmble correctly will 99% solve the issue so why sell it, FIT IT, Ask for Help or Yes ya can sell it, but what a Shame???
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Sounds like you got a lemon. It was most likely made early moday morning or end of the day friday. If you want to go the AR route do so and enjoy. If you want to stick with AK check it out better the next go around. If/when you sell yours at least give full disclosure
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If you wanta keep it or get a better deal take it back to gun store you bought it from tell em its fucked up theyll send it back to century to fix it for free.
Thats what i did for my century 74 it had a tilted front sight. It took em like 5 weeks but i got it back all fixed