AK 47 VS AK 74

[backwoodsboy]

Whats the pros and cons of both, witch is more practical for SHTF. Im wondering if the 74s controlability is better than the 47s power to punch thru barriers?

Whats yalls opinion on this?

[Outonowhere]

The "Which gun is better" debate has been beat to death and resurrected more times than a noob playing Call of Duty...

Think about your area, forget about online for this because you are considering SHTF which means you would probably have no net.  Which is easier to get a hold of locally, and which is easier to stockpile?  How easily can you get spare parts locally?  How popular is each firearm in your area?  Could you easily swap mags/parts with others who might join your "group"?  What is most popular with the local "authorities"?

Just some questions to ask.  As to which caliber is better, they all have pros and cons.  Learn the difference, apply the knowledge of what your area is like and go from there.

[backwoodsboy]

The "Which gun is better" debate has been beat to death and resurrected more times than a noob playing Call of Duty...

Think about your area, forget about online for this because you are considering SHTF which means you would probably have no net.  Which is easier to get a hold of locally, and which is easier to stockpile?  How easily can you get spare parts locally?  How popular is each firearm in your area?  Could you easily swap mags/parts with others who might join your "group"?  What is most popular with the local "authorities"?

Just some questions to ask.  As to which caliber is better, they all have pros and cons.  Learn the difference, apply the knowledge of what your area is like and go from there.

Thanks for the response, now that i think of it i can buy 7.62x39 at walmart or academy. and i dont know anyone with a 74.

[mountainredneck2051]

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[Reaver]

Survivability- AK74
Reason being is ammo and parts are cheap. With a few thousand bucks you can get set up with two 74's and like 5K rounds.

But, if I had the money to get the same in a 47 I totally would. Mainly because of bullet size, weight, and stopping power.

My opinion take it how you want it.

[special-k]

@BWB
I was close to going all in on 5.45... But then I started pricing magazines.  Until some manufacturer starts producing some grade A metal mags for a reasonable price I'm staying away from 5.45.

[RS762]

^^^
precisely
5.45 is a money trap.

Sure ammo is cheap but mags will cost you out the ass, if you can even find them. NO ONE in my area owns a 74... they are pretty much unheard of out here, it's strange. Locally ammo is pricey when you can find it.

Plus 7.62x39 is super-mega-ultra-badass at barrier penetration.  [url=http://yoursmiles.org/p-m

[crudos]

Yeh, AK74 mags must be made out of gold or something. Insane pricing.

[mountainredneck2051]

74 mag prices blow and the ammo is like 3 bucks a box more than 5.56

[Grudgie]

Three words: AR15

[Outonowhere]

Three words: AR15

I tend to agree with you, it is what is "native" to our country so the parts/ammo/mags/etc. will be more available and likely more of what you will run into.  And you can build a decent AR for less than 700.

[RS762]

Three words: AR15

And you can build a decent AR for less than 700.

So?
You can build a decent AK, buy a 640rd spam can, and buy 10 mags for 700.

[1000meterstare]

AK-47 IS native to our country now.  Not so much the 74.  Don't get me wrong, his platform shoots flat and is insanely accurate for an AK, but I have the 47.  I saw an internet video that demonstrated the "poison bullet" of the ak-74.  This dude in the middle east was shooting from behind a palm tree - only his arm exposed.  The shooter had an AK-74 and shot him in the arm, and he dropped dead!  The bullet prolly came out of his ass or something.  But I prefer the old-skool punch thru barriers AK-47, even if I have to sacrifice quick follow-up shots.  My AO has trees, rolling hills, etc.  The 47 just "fits better."

[Outonowhere]

Here's a brilliant fucking idea...

How about, instead of asking all of the assholes on here which rifle they would rather stick between their legs:

1.  Man the Fuck Up
2. Do your own research (again on a topic that has been fucking beat to death all over the internet)
3. Make up your own mind

Be happy with whatever YOU decide to buy because in the end it is YOUR money and YOUR rifle.  If you listen to every swinging dick with an opinion on the subject you will just end up regretting your decision one way or another.

Thank you and good night... fucking assholes

[Grudgie]

Three words: AR15

And you can build a decent AR for less than 700.

So?
You can build a decent AK, buy a 640rd spam can, and buy 10 mags for 700.

You can buy an m1 Garand, 2 spam cans of .30-06, and an American flag for $700. Just saying.

[EJR914]

Why not get an AK that shoots 5.56/.223 and uses AR Mags?   

*Drops Micophone, steps away, and brushes his shoulder off*

[RS762]

Wait...grudgie what?
I can't find an M1 garand under $700 anywhere, much less an M1 plus spam cans for that price.

Other than CMP of course.
And I heard CMP won't sell to you without association to some kind of shooting club.

[Reaver]

Dudes no offense. And don't say I am un-American or what ever cause F you I'm not.

The M1 Garand had it's day. It has ALMOST no place in a prepper world in today's day and age.

[mountainredneck2051]

Dudes no offense. And don't say I am un-American or what ever cause F you I'm not.

The M1 Garand had it's day. It has ALMOST no place in a prepper world in today's day and age.

kinda like the m14 and fal
 

[Reaver]

Dudes no offense. And don't say I am un-American or what ever cause F you I'm not.

The M1 Garand had it's day. It has ALMOST no place in a prepper world in today's day and age.

kinda like the m14 and fal
 

Shut your face! M14's and FAL's Both still have a place. They are decent capacity and they don't PING every eight rounds.

[1000meterstare]

The M14 (M1A) and FAL are still VERY relevant.  If my AK caught a bullet and didn't function and I picked up an FAL or M1A I would count myself as very fortunate. [url=http://www.freesmileys.or

[RS762]

Dudes no offense. And don't say I am un-American or what ever cause F you I'm not.

The M1 Garand had it's day. It has ALMOST no place in a prepper world in today's day and age.

kinda like the m14 and fal
 

doubtful.
Both are fed by high-capacity detachable box magazines.
The M-14 and FAL are far more comparable to the AK and AR than the M1 garand.

(reply to your silly retort outlining the mechanical similarities of the M1 and M14).
The M-14 was an attempt to turn the M1 garand into something it isn't, a modern "assault" rifle.

if you were squaring off against guys with mosins mausers and enfields then the Garand is a great choice, however today the garand is not so impressive. Against AK's and AR's you want AT LEAST another AK or AR.

[thatGuy]

Don't you already have an AK47?  [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at

[mountainredneck2051]

the battle rifle itself is outdated and quite  a poor choice in today's world
move fast move light and overwhelm

[thatGuy]

I'm gonna rock out with my Glock out. Slow burns favor pistols as much as I hate to admit that.