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Masks?
« on: May 20, 2020, 10:17:21 AM »
new thoughts.

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Re: Masks?
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2020, 07:23:24 PM »
Less than 2% chance of ending up on a ventilator, I'm willing to risk it
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Re: Masks?
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2020, 09:30:10 PM »
Me too, but it was funny.

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Re: Masks?
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2020, 09:48:48 AM »
for myself - that meme is funny.

just for SA, the idea behind the masks and social distancing isn't to protect you.  Its to protect people who are at risk, by slowing the spread from asymptomatic carriers.

it doesn't protect you per se - it protects your fellow human.  You aren't rolling the dice on your life - you're rolling the dice for the people you meet and the families of those random people you meet.

I live in an area that is densely populated and getting hit by CoViD-19 now.
to me its just a moral decision.  to me its an easy decision to make.
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Re: Masks?
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2020, 06:49:18 AM »
I enjoy the funny part of the meme also.

The controversy around the wearing of masks is complex.

I wear an N95 mask when I go out where there are people gathered. In stores, shops and such.

I do so to protect others as opposed to myself. That is just me though. I am happy to do so for my reasons. People around here are not made to wear masks though.

I believe the reason for this is that the community pretty much has decided to wear masks on their own initiative.


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Re: Masks?
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2020, 06:04:44 PM »
OK, here's the latest in Virginia on wearing masks. Governor Asshole says that he is going to mandate that starting this week, we will be required to wear masks in public. I told my wife that If I go out to get coffee or whatever, and I don't come back, it means I've been arrested. Here's my position on this bullshit. Virginia State Law(passed by the Legislature) says that it is illegal for adults to wear masks in public. I say that the State law trumps the Governors mandate to wear masks. The Governor does not have the power to make laws. Governor Northam can kiss my ass. I'll do jail time before I roll over and obey his bullshit. :pissed:

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Re: Masks?
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2020, 08:08:18 PM »
As much as I agree with you. 

Remote possibility of you not being able to complete a 4473.

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https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title18.2/chapter9/section18.2-422/


 § 18.2-422. Prohibition of wearing of masks in certain places; exceptions.

It shall be unlawful for any person over 16 years of age to, with the intent to conceal his identity, wear any mask, hood or other device whereby a substantial portion of the face is hidden or covered so as to conceal the identity of the wearer, to be or appear in any public place, or upon any private property in this Commonwealth without first having obtained from the owner or tenant thereof consent to do so in writing. However, the provisions of this section shall not apply to persons (i) wearing traditional holiday costumes; (ii) engaged in professions, trades, employment or other activities and wearing protective masks which are deemed necessary for the physical safety of the wearer or other persons; (iii) engaged in any bona fide theatrical production or masquerade ball; or (iv) wearing a mask, hood or other device for bona fide medical reasons upon (a) the advice of a licensed physician or osteopath and carrying on his person an affidavit from the physician or osteopath specifying the medical necessity for wearing the device and the date on which the wearing of the device will no longer be necessary and providing a brief description of the device, or (b) the declaration of a disaster or state of emergency by the Governor in response to a public health emergency where the emergency declaration expressly waives this section, defines the mask appropriate for the emergency, and provides for the duration of the waiver. The violation of any provisions of this section is a Class 6 felony.
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Re: Masks?
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2020, 12:14:34 AM »
As much as I agree with you. 

Remote possibility of you not being able to complete a 4473.

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https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title18.2/chapter9/section18.2-422/


 § 18.2-422. Prohibition of wearing of masks in certain places; exceptions.

It shall be unlawful for any person over 16 years of age to, with the intent to conceal his identity, wear any mask, hood or other device whereby a substantial portion of the face is hidden or covered so as to conceal the identity of the wearer, to be or appear in any public place, or upon any private property in this Commonwealth without first having obtained from the owner or tenant thereof consent to do so in writing. However, the provisions of this section shall not apply to persons (i) wearing traditional holiday costumes; (ii) engaged in professions, trades, employment or other activities and wearing protective masks which are deemed necessary for the physical safety of the wearer or other persons; (iii) engaged in any bona fide theatrical production or masquerade ball; or (iv) wearing a mask, hood or other device for bona fide medical reasons upon (a) the advice of a licensed physician or osteopath and carrying on his person an affidavit from the physician or osteopath specifying the medical necessity for wearing the device and the date on which the wearing of the device will no longer be necessary and providing a brief description of the device, or (b) the declaration of a disaster or state of emergency by the Governor in response to a public health emergency where the emergency declaration expressly waives this section, defines the mask appropriate for the emergency, and provides for the duration of the waiver. The violation of any provisions of this section is a Class 6 felony.


Good for you NEMO. I didn't want to go look it up since I read an earlier version about 20 years ago. Governor Asshole didn't define the appropriate mask and didn't specify the duration. His mandate is worthless.

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Re: Masks?
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2020, 12:31:51 PM »
Don't disagree with you.  Don't wear one myself.  But lets see what his 2pm (scheduled time) announcement is.

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Re: Masks?
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2020, 07:26:02 PM »
RICHMOND, Va. (AP) - Gov. Ralph Northam is ordering that Virginians wear masks while in public indoor spaces, saying the measure is needed to help prevent the spread of the coronavirus.

Northam said at a news conference Tuesday that he’s ordering masks be worn starting Friday inside all retail stores, while using public transportation, and in any other indoor places where people congregate.

“This is about protecting those around us, especially our workers,” Northam said.

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Northam joins governors in several other states, including neighboring Maryland, who have issued similar requirements.

In practice, Northam’s mask order will be largely voluntary, as the governor said he’s not going to allow any criminal prosecutions of anyone found not wearing a mask. Instead, the governor’s chief of staff, Clark Mercer, said businesses that are being “grossly negligent” could lose their operating licenses.


“This is not about punishing people,” Northam said. “That’s not what we’re going to do here. We’re trying to promote safety.”

But Republican lawmakers decried the order, saying it places unfair mandates on business owners. Senate Republicans issued a statement saying Northam’s mask order should instead be a voluntary recommendation.


 Our Governor Idiot In Charge mandates masks and then in the same breath says that law enforcement won't arrest anyone for not wearing a mask. Then he says that if the businesses don't force you to wear a mask he will cancel their business licenses. All of this without waiving Va. Code 18.2-422. Hmmmm.... That means that if you wear a mask and are over 16 you will be committing a class 6 felony all because he didn't waive 18.2-422.

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Re: Masks?
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2020, 06:03:43 AM »
UPDATE: The latest Executive order #63 from Virginia Governor Idiot reads like incoherent ramblings from a Bar Drunk. However, he did wave 18.2-422 in a round about way. Mid sentence it says, "and any other laws that apply". Oooohhhh thanks for being so definitive. He also complied with 18.2-422 by defining the mask to be worn. It says to wear the mask that the CDC recommends. The CDC recommends wearing homemade pieces of crap from scrap materials and to not wear surgical masks because medical staff need those for themselves. He also complied with 18.2-422 by stating the duration that we must wear the masks. Uhhhhh.... OK, if starting May 29 and keep wearing them until he tells you to stop is the duration then maybe so. Also he said that you don't have to wear a mask if you have a medical condition that keeps you from wearing a mask, you don't need to carry anything with you to prove it and you don't have to divulge the nature of your medical condition. Damn.... Sometimes you just want to slap stupid people. :troutSlap:

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