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Offline JoJo

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Get home bag
« on: April 23, 2018, 04:54:00 PM »
 In another thread there was talk of keeping food in your vehicle. I gave it some thought this past year and I cannot understand how the food would not go bad. Go bad from freezing or over heated.
 Is there a time limit you keep the food in your vehicle or doesn't the weather matter?
 I have a get home sling bag with two 72hr food packets (Wife and I), could I keep them in my car over the summer? Of course I have other needed stuff in there too. :-[
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Re: Get home bag
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2018, 05:10:49 PM »
In another thread there was talk of keeping food in your vehicle. I gave it some thought this past year and I cannot understand how the food would not go bad. Go bad from freezing or over heated.
 Is there a time limit you keep the food in your vehicle or doesn't the weather matter?
 I have a get home sling bag with two 72hr food packets (Wife and I), could I keep them in my car over the summer? Of course I have other needed stuff in there too. :-[

I keep a couple of protein bars in my get home bag.
That's it. Water is much more important, we can all manage with minimal food for several days.
A bag kept in the trunk down low vicinity of fuel tank will experience less extreme temperature fluctuations.
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Re: Get home bag
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2018, 07:34:37 PM »
what Erick said and
I've had bad luck with MRE's for a year - it gets hot here in the summer.
I use mountain house camping stuff, mylar bagged, freeze dried - works for me.  I've also had good luck with millennium bars and other 'short bread' rations.  pure calories but it will keep me moving for a week. 
for snacks, i keep skittles, single serving peanut butter, coffee, hot chocolate and honey - it holds up well.  its a basic 72 hour kit.  One trick i learned was to put the food in a box and wrap it in a casualty blanket.  i put it in the trunk over the spare - the coolest place in my car. - thats also where i keep any foil and pill meds (aspirin, sunscreen, blistex, burn gel, etc.)

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Re: Get home bag
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2018, 08:22:34 PM »
 I don't keep my get home bag in the car, I put it in for long trips. But I do have protein bars, fire starting materials flash light Paracord knife and other emergency survival stuff.
 I was wondering just if and how others kept BOB over seasons in their vehicle so I could make a decision.   
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Re: Get home bag
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2018, 08:47:03 PM »
    My BOB is the backpack that I typically use for hiking.  The backpack remains in my vehicle most of the time, but the contents vary with the seasons.  I do keep some survival/lifeboat rations in the backpack which come enclosed in a foil pouch.  The pouches have a five or seven year life expectancy.  I have tried them and they're not bad, but it's not something that I would want to eat every day.  I sometimes have to hike for my job, so the backpack gets some heavy usage, and I'm glad that I have the rations, just in case.  I also carry hot chocolate or hot cider mix too.

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Re: Get home bag
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2018, 09:09:41 PM »
Generally speaking a Get Home Bag is mostly for someone who has a job away from the house. Since I'm retired, I don't really have a get Home Bag. However, I do carry, at all times, a Fanny Pack that has most of the items y'all carry in your Get Home Bag. For food, I threw in a few Slim Jims. There are a couple of those chemical hand warmers, Presciption Meds and a dozen Aspirin, three or four Benadryl and cough drops, Hand Sanitizer, cigarette lighter, Magnifying glass, Booster battery for Cell phone or Tablet. Then, a bunch of pouches with things like AAA and AA batteries, Multi-Tool, Needle and Heavy Duty Waxed Thread, a pack of Cigarettes, and a bunch of other stuff that I can't even remember right now. Last but not least is my handgun and magazines, Dual band Handi-Talkie, and really powerful Flashlite. The other day, the wife was going to pick it up and hand it too me and she said, "What the Hell do you have in this thing?" I told her it was my pet boat anchor.

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Re: Get home bag
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2018, 10:59:59 PM »
I don't get far from home without my sling bag kit.  I will detail that another time because I am in the process of moving it from a one strap sling bag to a double strap small backpack type kit.

But I always have my script bottle kit in the truck.  I have detailed that around here a while back posted at second link below.

I also have a small belt pouch kit I have put together and will detail that here soon also.

Another interesting addition to the "always in the truck" kit is a Charter Arms (yes, sold it out to Henry Rifles) .22 caliber AR-7 rifle, 3 magazines and about 200 rounds of ammo for it.  Amazing what amount of room you can find under the seat in an extended cab F-150 when you take the flat tire jack out of it.  Truck slipped and bent it up.  Replaced it with a small 2 ton hydraulic jack.  Works wonders.

And if your wife sews she can make a nice cloth carry case for that rifle out of a cut off blue jean leg from that pair thats worn out in the seat.

I also keep one or 2 of these in whichever kit is in the car.  Yeah they taste not so good but work rather well and if replaced every 9-12 months remain edible.

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Re: Get home bag
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2018, 11:06:05 PM »
Vacuum seal the following in one pouch:

1 Cup real rice (Not 5 minute rice). I like jasmin,
2 tsp powdered or one cube beef bullion,
1/2 Cups freeze dried vegetables, e.g. carrots, broccoli, etc,
4 oz. beef or pork jerky, and
the O absorber from the jerky pack.

When you are ready to eat, boil 3 cups of water and add the contents from the above pouch. Simmer for 20 minutes with top on the pot. At the 20 minute mark take the lid off your pot and you may need to add some water from a dash up to 1/2 cup.

Once cooked, stir let sit 5 or so minutes and eat. I save Chinese spice packets like, soy sauce, Korean hot paste, duck sauce, etc and add if needed.

I make up a similar pack but use Couscous and olive oil instead of rice. These packets last till you see maggots in the rice which I only saw once as long as I have been doing this.

One cup of rice becomes ~ 2 cups when cooked. There are 185 carbohydrates in 1 cup of cooked rice. Add the bullion for sodium & flavor, veggies for vitamins & regularity, and the jerky for protein - One pouch a day will be more than enough to keep ya' going for a day. I try to keep my normal daily carb rate under 150 carbs a day as a comparison.

If you are forced to walk home living out of your BOB you will have ~ 370 carbs per pouch (185 carbs x 2 cups cooked rice = 370 carbs) a day to draw nourishment from.

In another vacuum sealed pouch I have tea bags, instant coffee sticks, and sugar packs. Keep in mind though that drinks high in caffeine isn't good as it makes ya' pee a bunch BUT, you need some comforts.

I also filled half way a 1 pnt Ball canning jar with quality olive oil. That gets vacuum sealed too and is included for flavor, fat, and if a have to fry up some protein I might catch, kill or trade for.

Just some thoughts that has worked for me.
 
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Re: Get home bag
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2018, 11:12:40 PM »
Doesn't the olive oil just spoil within about 7-9 months?

When not in contained separately does in not just spoil that sealed up kit?

Do you rotate these by having them for lunch/replacing or trash/replace?

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Re: Get home bag
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2018, 06:39:26 AM »
I don't keep my get home bag in the car, I put it in for long trips. But I do have protein bars, fire starting materials flash light Paracord knife and other emergency survival stuff.
 I was wondering just if and how others kept BOB over seasons in their vehicle so I could make a decision.   
i travel, in my car, up to several hundred miles a day.  The car seems the logical place to keep it for me.  i keep enough cash to buy a bicycle if the need and opportunity combine. 
with my schedule - it gets used from time to time - i do a yearly inspection but generally i just replace it as i go.  the food is what gave me a headache, keeping it edible in the heat and over time.  swapping out MRE's for freeze dried fixed that.
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Re: Get home bag
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2018, 10:23:37 AM »
Answers in bold Nemo.
Doesn't the olive oil just spoil within about 7-9 months?

Olive oil does not spoil if kept properly. I think that recently "they" found usable olive oil in a Egyptian tomb recently. The oil I prep in quantity is olive oil. I buy the case every couple of years and use in my day to day life. Quality is the secret.

When not in contained separately does in not just spoil that sealed up kit?

I do not understand this question. If you are asking, "does the combing Vs. packing separately shorten the life of the contents of these pouches?" The answer is...See my response below.

Do you rotate these by having them for lunch/replacing or trash/replace?

I use these pouches in demonstrations and at times just because I wanted something else to cook in-house. My guess is that I run through these pouches over a 18 month period or so. Over the years I have used my recipe only one went bad. When I opened it there were mealworms mixed in with the rice. In a life death situation, just more protein if you ask me.  ;)
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Re: Get home bag
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2018, 08:24:46 PM »
My wife is afraid of oil spoilage so we only use Olive oil.  It has the longest life which we understand to be about 9 months max.

You indicate--  Olive oil does not spoil if kept properly.

She keeps it in the store bottles, tightly sealed.  Resealed after each fill of the smaller "oil bottle" used as cooking and salad dribble supply.  Is that proper?  More info on that kept proper idea please.

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Re: Get home bag
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2018, 09:13:43 PM »
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Re: Get home bag
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2018, 02:59:52 PM »
Thank you JoJo.

We are down to the last gallon of OO from a case I purchased at a restaurant supply house in 2012. I opened that gallon a couple of weeks ago and is not rancid or anything.

We keep/kept the gallon cans in our root cellar. Constant temp year round between ~40-50 degrees F.
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