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News & Politics / I Begin To Dislike Amazon
« Last post by Nemo on Today at 12:33:28 PM »
I yell BOHICA!!  To all my neighbors.

Nemo


http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2018/08/20/are-paying-amazons-electricity-bills.html



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Big Tech Backlash
1 hour ago
Are you paying Amazon's electricity bills?
By Christopher Carbone | Fox News

Amazon, which has taken heat for harnessing taxpayer funds to further its own gains, is attempting to pass on the cost of powering its massive data centers to consumers in the form of higher electric bill fees.

According to Bloomberg, Virginia’s largest utility Dominion Energy, recently negotiated with state legislators to pass on the cost of running a power line underground to connect to one of the tech firm’s subsidiaries—to the tune of $172 million—to consumers in the form of an as-yet-unannounced monthly fee.

Rosie Thomas, 87, who already struggles to pay her monthly $170 electric bill, said “Lord, have mercy” when she learned of the new fee.

Amazon Web Services, the company’s highly-profitable cloud computing business, which runs websites and services for a wide range of firms including Verizon, Major League Baseball and Comcast, grew revenue by 49 percent in the second quarter to $6.11 billion.

However, that comes with a large amount of upfront infrastructure costs to operate dozens of data centers that hold massive server farms operating around-the-clock.

State legislators have consistently courted Amazon, regardless of how many jobs its data centers generate. The firm is one of countless U.S. businesses to take advantage of any tax incentives and existing laws to lower its costs. Amazon Web Services has also set a goal of achieving 100 percent energy sustainability for its global infrastructure.

In at least two states, reports Bloomberg, Amazon has negotiated with utilities and lawmakers to force residents to pay its electric bills—on top of the estimated $1.2 billion in state and municipal tax incentives Jeff Bezos’ company has received over the past decade.

Although Amazon isn’t the only company to take advantage of the power industry’s hunger for new customers, as the largest player in cloud computing it has the biggest footprint.

In Ohio, the company opened three data centers in 2016 that are currently operating with electric rates that are hidden from public view. As reported by Bloomberg, only five representatives on a public utility commission, along with Amazon and American Electric Power (AEP), know how much is being paid for a public service.

Late last year, Amazon offered to open 12 more data centers and AEP exempted it from surcharges that other customers pay.

“That’s de facto cost-shifting,” Ned Hill, an economist who teaches at Ohio State University, told Bloomberg.
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Servers are seen in a data center.  (Global Access Point, via Wikimedia Commons)

Amazon has claimed that its discounted rates are a trade secret and must be redacted in any requests for public records.

“Price cuts are treated as trade secrets by the utilities. Baloney,” Hill said. “All should be made public and made in advance of any action.”

In Virginia, Amazon’s Vadata Inc. reportedly has 29 data centers. The tech giant’s 78-page application for a special rate agreement has two versions—one that’s heavily redacted for the public and one that’s under seal with state regulators.

The idea of businesses shifting costs to lower income residents isn’t new.

A range of businesses have reaped rewards from U.S. taxpayers for locating their business in certain states, including Tesla ($1.3 billion from Nevada for a battery factory), Foxconn ($4.8 billion for a display screen plant) and Apple ($214 million for a data center in Iowa).

According to a study from the American Council for an Energy-Efficient Economy (ACEEE), an environmental lobbying group, lower income Americans already pay about three times more of their income on utility bills than wealthier households.

However, unlike when an Amazon warehouse opens, which may employ a few thousand residents, data centers don't fuel major job growth.

“When you attracted the steel mill years ago, you got 2,000 employees. When you attract a data center, you get maybe 50,” Hill told Bloomberg.

Meanwhile, in Thomas’ Virginia neighborhood, most residents are elderly and living on fixed incomes; they’ve already seen energy bills increase by 30 percent over the last ten years.

“Amazon’s got all the money they ever needed,” she said. “They don’t need any more.”
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For Sale / Re: U.S. silver Eagle Monster Box
« Last post by Nemo on Today at 12:25:44 PM »
They are in tubes of 20 each?  The boxes of 100 I my FiL purchased are like that.  Sure wish I knew what he did with those.

If so I can squeeze up funds for 1 tube I think.  Squeezing will begin either way.  Thats always a good thing to do. 

You should have mentioned this on Friday before I went to the gun show. 

Nemo   8)
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For Sale / U.S. silver Eagle Monster Box
« Last post by Grudgie on Today at 10:12:57 AM »
I have for sell a box of 500 1 ounce silver eagles. The date is 2013. All coins have never been touched by human hands.

Price will be spot silver +$2.5 premium x 500. That is currently $8595.
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great to have more options @JohnyMac

and thank you for the additional info @gadget99

Have some stuff on order and going to be testing things out. Will update with more after some time testing.
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General Discussion / Re: What have you done to prep today?
« Last post by Erick on Today at 03:39:28 AM »
Visited a gun show down the road a bit.  Came home with a 420 round can of Federal .56 ($160)and a 1000 round box ($190) of 9s. 

The 5.56 is in cardboard sleeves of 3 stripper clips of 10 rounds each.  Easy to stuff a mag quick.

Nemo

Sounds like a nice score :)
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General Discussion / Re: What have you done to prep today?
« Last post by Nemo on August 19, 2018, 08:49:02 PM »
Visited a gun show down the road a bit.  Came home with a 420 round can of Federal .56 ($160)and a 1000 round box ($190) of 9s. 

The 5.56 is in cardboard sleeves of 3 stripper clips of 10 rounds each.  Easy to stuff a mag quick.

Nemo
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General Discussion / Re: What have you done to prep today?
« Last post by JoJo on August 19, 2018, 04:32:16 PM »
 Scope came lose on my rifle so a trip to the range to zero it, also bought a box of nitrile gloves for my medical kit plus another 200 rounds of 5.56.
 I was looking at a 1,000 watt power inverter at Walmart yesterday and when I went back it was gone. It was miss-priced at $29.95. I didn't know that was the wrong price but I thought at that price I'll get it.
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General Discussion / Re: Take a knee
« Last post by grizz on August 19, 2018, 02:44:43 PM »
 :cheers:

Ted rocks  :fuckYeah:
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General Discussion / Take a knee
« Last post by JoJo on August 19, 2018, 01:42:55 PM »
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Very moving!

  This is OUTSTANDING!




Take a knee...

 

I don't think I've ever read anything more powerful than this piece

It was written by Ted Nugent.

 

Take a little trip to Valley Forge in January. Hold a musket ball in your fingers and imagine it piercing your flesh and breaking a bone or two. There won't be a doctor or trainer to assist you until after the battle, so just wait your turn. Take your cleats and socks off to get a real experience.

 

Then, take a knee on the beach in Normandy where man after American man stormed the beach, even as the one in front of him was shot to pieces, the very sea stained with American blood. The only blockers most had were the dead bodies in front of them, riddled with bullets from enemy fire.

 

Take a knee in the sweat soaked jungles of Vietnam. From Khe Sanh to Saigon, anywhere will do. Americans died in all those jungles. There was no playbook that told them what was next, but they knew what flag they represented. When they came home, they were protested as well, and spit on for reasons only cowards know.

 

Take another knee in the blood drenched sands of Fallujah in 110 degree heat. Wear your Kevlar helmet and battle dress. Your number won't be printed on it unless your number is up! You'll need to stay hydrated but there won't be anyone to squirt Gatorade into your mouth. You're on your own.

 

There are a lot of places to take a knee where Americans have given their lives all over the world. When you use the banner under which they fought as a source for your displeasure, you dishonor the memories of those who bled for the very freedoms you have. That's what the red stripes mean. It represents the blood of those who spilled a sea of it defending your liberty.

 

While you're on your knee, pray for those that came before you, not on a manicured lawn striped and printed with numbers to announce every inch of ground taken, but on nameless hills and bloodied beaches and sweltering forests and bitter cold mountains, every inch marked by an American life lost serving that flag you protest.

 

No cheerleaders, no announcers, no coaches, no fans, just American men and women, delivering the real fight against those who chose to harm us, blazing a path so you would have the right to "take a knee." You haven't any inkling of what it took to get you where you are, but your "protest" is duly noted. Not only is it disgraceful to a nation of real heroes, it serves the purpose of pointing to your ingratitude for those who chose to defend you under that banner that will still wave long after your jersey is retired.

 

If you really feel the need to take a knee, come with me to church on Sunday and we'll both kneel before Almighty God. We'll thank Him for preserving this country for as long as He has. We'll beg forgiveness for our ingratitude for all He has provided us. We'll appeal to Him for understanding and wisdom. We'll pray for liberty and justice for all, because He is the one who provides those things. But there will be no protest. There will only be gratitude for His provision and a plea for His continued grace and mercy on the land of the free and the home of the brave. It goes like this, GOD BLESS AMERICA!


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News & Politics / Re: Fighting back
« Last post by Kbop on August 19, 2018, 06:02:30 AM »
Laissez les bon temps roulez!

I hate when corporations try to coerce action against an electorate.
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