Yes, WWII is an excellent example of what happens if we step out of the picture. It encourages and allows expansionist policy by those who desire more power. In that case Hitler. Now, what do you think the world would look like today if we had followed the foreign policy you are advocating then? What if we had stayed out of WWII? You would have Germany, Japan ad Italy ruling a large portion of the world if not all of it. Do you think they would have left our continent or South America alone after completing those conquests?
You sure do assume a lot don't you sledge? Where did I ever say that I advocated us not getting invovled in WWII? I think we were forced to act in WWII. There you go again, putting words and ideas into my mouth. I hate it when people do that. Its what makes posting in forums and trying to have discussions on the internet so impossible. Stop putting words and ideas into my mouth that I never said.
If we follow the foreign policy you advocate today we will get the same result from the major players active today. The U.S. has been able until today to hold those players in check. We haven't permanently taken over other peoples lands and planted our flag on them. There are still only 50 states. Our problem is that we spent vast sums of money trying to rebuild nations we defeated. We never get paid back when we do that.
Umm, actually, we've acquired quite a few territories beyond the 50 states. Guam, the Phillipines, and I believe Puerta Rico as well. Just to name a few. That's really besides the point. I also, believe you are wrong as you are still putting words into my mouth. I believe you do not have a firm grasp at all to what a non-interventionist policy is. You think it means you never go to war, you think it means that you just sit on your ass while the whole world goes to shit. You are wrong.
I agree, we need to stop the nation building, which is a huge part of our foreign policy now.
The U.S. looks to be in decline at this point and it's ability to hold those other players in check may come to an end. So it is highly likely you will get your wish at some point. My only comment is to be careful what you wish for. It comes with consequences as has been shown in the past. If it occurs the U.S. will find itself surrounded by a world power military it won't be able to match and will be forced to submit.
Yes, and it will be our piss poor economy that does us in, because our politicians have sold us up the river, when it comes to our economy. When the US had more of a capitalist economy, our economy was the envy of the whole world. Through government regulation, the central bank, high taxation, wealth redistribution, ect, our government has turned our economy into a government demand socialist corporatist economy, and it KILLED our thriving economy. We have our elected officials to blame for this, and the electorate, nobody else is to blame. If we had an electorate that paid attention to who they voted into office and what their policies did to our economy, and elected men that were not corrupt and actually supported capitalism, we wouldn't be in this position anyway.
And yes, I firmly believe that we if just left the Muslims alone, and wouldn't have gone over their training them, giving them weapons, vehicles, and other material support, and money, and then backed out on them, we would have never had the blowback attacks that we have had.
You think its a flaw in their religion, I think its because of our meddling in their business and their affairs that has pissed them off.
The fact that you and many others cannot see it, is quite startling to me. The Muslims are NOT the boogey man. If we left them alone, we would stop getting attacked.
Also, to add to this, I think you're WRONG about me not seeing the big picture, I believe it is you who is looking at a small picture because of your preconceived notion that Muslims are the boogey man, and they are all out to destory the United States because we're a "Christian nation" which we actually are not. You are wrong about that. I see the bigger picture of our CIA and all the toppling of leaders, and setting up dictators, then taking out those same dictators that we set up, and the bombing and the terrorism that our CIA does in other countries. I truly believe that they think all the killing and bombing is "for the greater good" but what they don't see is that all it makes the people of other countries do is hate us. Also, the CIA are doing all this in our foreign policy for one thing right now, trade, oil, precious metals, ect. They think they are doing the right thing for the US, what they don't understand is that the BLOWBACK from these actions is why we are being attacked. Not because of the Muslim boogey man. After all, its our fault that we don't have our own oil, we shouldn't even need the Middle East right now. We should be drilling our own oil and becoming energy dependent so we don't have to keep getting into these wars over oil.
I know quite a few Muslims, they don't want to all kill us, you're wrong about that. Sure a small amount of people have bastardized the religion called Wahhabism, don't believe me look it up.
I truly believe that one huge problem that I see is that the older guys, are so set in their ways, so engrained in their thinking that they will not accept or even look at other ideas and see if they have any merit on their own.
You see, I was just like you when 9/11 happened. I thought Muslims were the problem, that they will attack us no matter what we did, but I researched it, and did a lot of reading, talking to Muslims, ect, and I realized it was our foreign policy, our CIA actions, our military actions that have lead to these attacks, and NOT a religion.
Open your mind, stop being so close-minded, and actually try to look at these ideas, see if they actually make sense if the situation was reversed, if we constantly had a country over here, like China, that was constantly bombing us, killing citizens, toppling our leadership, and instituting dictators, that WE WOULD BE ATTACKING THEM TOO. I beg you to please open your mind and look at the merit, the logic, and the reasoning behind these ideas.
What would YOU be doing, if a country like China, was over in the United States doing exactly what we do in the Middle East? Would you be attacking Chinese soldiers? Would you be carrying out terror plots in China trying to get them to stop?
What would you do if China was over here bombing us, killing citizens, had drones flying over our country armed with surveillance equipment and bombs, killing citizens, toppling our leadership, instituting dictators? Please answer that for me.