Unchained Preppers
General Category => News & Politics => Topic started by: hjmoosejaw on April 01, 2013, 12:44:59 AM
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Just saw this and thought I'd post it.
http://joemiller.us/2013/03/starbucks-ceo-no-tolerance-for-traditional-marriage-supporters/ (http://joemiller.us/2013/03/starbucks-ceo-no-tolerance-for-traditional-marriage-supporters/)
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those faggots.
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The CEO of StraightPrep Inc believes that there was a separation of Church and State for a reason. He believes that having to buy a licence to take part in a religious ceremony is a intrusion on ones inalienable rights to freely practice.
With that in mind Mr.thatGuy believes that if the gay want to get married they need to build a gay church and go on a gay crusade to prove they are worthy of God's affection.
For the record Mr.thatGuy was only kidding about the crusade unless it's against Muslims... he would be cool with that
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Oh I almost forgot, fuck Starbucks.
That is all.
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I find it strange that the CEO of a company which took such a staunch position in favor open carry is now against the very same conservative block of customers they already defended...
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The CEO of StraightPrep Inc believes that there was a separation of Church and State for a reason. He believes that having to buy a licence to take part in a religious ceremony is a intrusion on ones inalienable rights to freely practice.
With that in mind Mr.thatGuy believes that if the gay want to get married they need to build a gay church and go on a gay crusade to prove they are worth of God's affection.
For the record Mr.thatGuy was only kidding about the crusade unless it's against Muslims... he would be cool with that
Oh I almost forgot, fuck Starbucks.
That is all.
I like how you did that!
find it strange that the CEO of a company which took such a staunch position in favor open carry is now against the very same conservative block of customers they already defended...
Yeah, that pisses me off. I open carry a lot. People will bitch and say, "Well, it was ok when they were backing open carry. Now that they want gay marriage, it's not." The difference being, is one is a constitutional right. All they were doing was upholding the law.
I'm already tired of them "equql" signs I'm seeing everywhere. The symbol for people that are for gay marriage.
Where I stand is, I'm not for it. I do think that anybody should be allowed to have anybody they choose in a hospital room. What about a homeless guy that doesn't have family, but maybe the only friend is a beat cop that he knows, or something like that. I believe that anybody should give benefits to whoever they want. If they are owed those benefits and have worked for them. No freebees. Pensions and such, not social security. IRAs and things like that. Not something the gov. pays out to someone to carry on without you. I don't like the titles, like marriage and unions. Marriage was defined long time ago.
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Merriam-Webster Definition:
(1) : the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law (2) : the state of being united to a person of the same sex in a relationship like that of a traditional marriage <same-sex marriage>
American Heritage Definition:
a)The legal union of a man and woman as husband and wife.
b)The state of being married; wedlock.
c) A common-law marriage.
d) A union between two persons having the customary but usually not the legal force of marriage: a
same-sex marriage.
Political Correctness is already here. My Merriam-Webster dictionary from 1970 does not list # 2. I wonder in what year it was changed.
On one side I have no problem if gay couples wanting and then getting married. On the other hand it is just a PC push to normalize a life style that has been looked down upon for 3,000 years. It is being done by the Progressives to further divide the country into many camps. Pro gay vs. anti gay. Rich vs. poor. Second Amendment proponents vs. anti gun.
Divide et impera Machiavelli
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Merriam-Webster Definition:
(1) : the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law (2) : the state of being united to a person of the same sex in a relationship like that of a traditional marriage <same-sex marriage>
American Heritage Definition:
a)The legal union of a man and woman as husband and wife.
b)The state of being married; wedlock.
c) A common-law marriage.
d) A union between two persons having the customary but usually not the legal force of marriage: a
same-sex marriage.
Political Correctness is already here. My Merriam-Webster dictionary from 1970 does not list # 2. I wonder in what year it was changed.
On one side I have no problem if gay couples wanting and then getting married. On the other hand it is just a PC push to normalize a life style that has been looked down upon for 3,000 years. It is being done by the Progressives to further divide the country into many camps. Pro gay vs. anti gay. Rich vs. poor. Second Amendment proponents vs. anti gun.
Divide et impera Machiavelli
That's the thing. Gays have been around forever. This movement just seems as another "in your face" type thing. (no pun intended) Just another way for the left to upset the apple cart.
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Seriously? Where am I going to get my half whip, double shot, rasberry, mocha, soy, venti latte? [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
If I drank that shit I'd hand in my man card. The older I get the more I hate going in to any big corporation's store front and this is a prime example of why. Fuck Starbucks. It's just sad their employees will suffer because of his stance.
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Seriously? Where am I going to get my half whip, double shot, rasberry, mocha, soy, venti latte?
If I drank that shit I'd hand in my man card. The older I get the more I hate going in to any big corporation's store front and this is a prime example of why. Fuck Starbucks. It's just sad their employees will suffer because of his stance.
Yep.
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hj,
I have some gay acquaintances (Males & Females) and all of them love to agitate the "right" by using their "gayness" as a call for civil rights.
Now concerning marriage; none of the gay guys really give a hoot. On the gay female end they are militant in wanting the marriage option. I laugh because it's not unlike the guys and gals in the straight world.
It's kind of like the Overton Window:
Overton assigned a spectrum of ?more free? and ?less free?, with regard to government intervention, oriented vertically on an axis. When the window moves or expands along this axis, an idea at a given location may become more or less politically acceptable as the window moves relative to it. The degrees of acceptance[4] of public ideas can be described roughly as:
Unthinkable
Radical
Acceptable
Sensible
Popular
Policy
The Overton window is a means of visualizing which ideas define that range of acceptance by where they fall in it. Proponents of policies outside the window seek to persuade or educate the public so that the window either ?moves? or expands to encompass them. Opponents of current policies, or similar ones currently within the window, likewise seek to convince people that these should be considered unacceptable.
Other formulations of the process created after Overton's death add the concept of moving the window, such as deliberately promoting ideas even less acceptable than the previous "outer fringe" ideas, with the intention of making the current fringe ideas acceptable by comparison.[5] The "door-in-the-face" technique of persuasion is a similar concept.
I am sure a version of the Overton Window theory was the down-fall of Rome. Remember that the Roman Senate became impotent post Caesar's assassination, monetary problems, decadence, crop failures, and to a degree the rise of Christianity.
We are living history man! [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
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hj,
I have some gay acquaintances (Males & Females) and all of them love to agitate the "right" by using their "gayness" as a call for civil rights.
Now concerning marriage none of the gay guys really give a hoot. On the gay female end they are militant in wanting the marriage option. I laugh because it's not unlike the guys and gals in the straight world.
It's kind of like the Overton Window:
Overton assigned a spectrum of ?more free? and ?less free?, with regard to government intervention, oriented vertically on an axis. When the window moves or expands along this axis, an idea at a given location may become more or less politically acceptable as the window moves relative to it. The degrees of acceptance[4] of public ideas can be described roughly as:
Unthinkable
Radical
Acceptable
Sensible
Popular
Policy
The Overton window is a means of visualizing which ideas define that range of acceptance by where they fall in it. Proponents of policies outside the window seek to persuade or educate the public so that the window either ?moves? or expands to encompass them. Opponents of current policies, or similar ones currently within the window, likewise seek to convince people that these should be considered unacceptable.
Other formulations of the process created after Overton's death add the concept of moving the window, such as deliberately promoting ideas even less acceptable than the previous "outer fringe" ideas, with the intention of making the current fringe ideas acceptable by comparison.[5] The "door-in-the-face" technique of persuasion is a similar concept.
I am sure a version of the Overton Window theory was the down-fall of Rome. Remember that the Roman Senate became impotent post Caesar's assassination, monetary problems, decadence, crop failures, and to a degree the rise of Christianity.
We are living history man!
Yep.
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If I went around telling people "I'mstraight, I'm straight! Look how straight I am", they would lock me up. I open carry in Starbucks just to make those metrosexuals feel uncomfortable. [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
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Who the fuck cares.
Does he support gun rights?
Some things are more important than some gay ass religious zealot bullshit. If the fags wanna have a stupid ceremony to show their love then so fucking be it. Just leave me and my tax dollars out of it.
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That's the thing. Gays have been around forever. This movement just seems as another "in your face" type thing. (no pun intended) Just another way for the left to upset the apple cart.
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We're not up to ancient Rome levels of gayness....yet. Back then, you had married men (especially in the upper classes) taking male lovers, some as young as fourteen (granted, there was no age stigma in the law of that land).
Slippery slope? History is ALWAYS a slippery slope.
I have to wonder how many of them actually support so-called "human rights" and how many just want to punish conservatives for X, Y, and Z reasons.
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Me personally.
I'm married, been married for 7 years now. I would be just as happy and in love with the same exact person not being married. Marriage nowadays is just a form of making paying the bills easier. People marry and get divorced on a wimb, drunken stuper, legitimate reasons or just for the hell of it.
This whole, the bible says so shit needs to stop primarily because its hypocritical as fuck. It also says its not your position to judge. Leave that to the all mighty, and mind your own dam business.
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Me personally.
I'm married, been married for 7 years now. I would be just as happy and in love with the same exact person not being married. Marriage nowadays is just a form of making paying the bills easier. People marry and get divorced on a wimb, drunken stuper, legitimate reasons or just for the hell of it.
This whole, the bible says so shit needs to stop primarily because its hypocritical as fuck. It also says its not your position to judge. Leave that to the all mighty, and mind your own dam business.
It's only hypocritical if the law is not followed by those who profess to live by it. Bottom line: we're no where near resolving this, or any other issue, as a nation any time soon no matter what the courts say.
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Hetro couples have been messing up marriage for centuries, no harm in letting gay couple have the same rights. My wife, the minister, doesn't see any reason why gay folks can't have the same rights as the rest of us. And she is the smartest non-christian, who will school you three-ways from Sunday service on the bible and it's interpretations.
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Hetro couples have been messing up marriage for centuries, no harm in letting gay couple have the same rights. My wife, the minister, doesn't see any reason why gay folks can't have the same rights as the rest of us. And she is the smartest non-christian, who will school you three-ways from Sunday service on the bible and it's interpretations.
Marriage isn't a right. Marriage is a covenant between a man and a woman. BIG difference. Kind of like the Second Amendment isn't for hunting. Ya dig? Socialist assholes can call it whatever they want with pretty words, but it doesn't make it true. The only thing homosexuals deserve is to not be heckled, bothered, or murdered. In other words, they can go about their lives. End of story.
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Bottom line.
We all should have the right to pursue our own happiness.
Religion based ideas ruin that. If your a constitutionalist you should be pro fag. Just because of they want to be happy with a cock in their mouth they should. Who am I or you to tell them no. Your not.
Look, I'm not a fag, and me personally I think it's fucking gross. But it's not my place to tell them they can't be happy. Do y'all thing. Just leave me out of it.
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I'd really love to join in this discussion. But I can't do it without letting my bias take control. The "Judge not lest you be judged thing". I will say that I tend to agree with Whitewolf.
So I'll just mind my own business and let God sort them out.
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Reaver, were I you I would give the Bible a little more respect in an effort to avoid hell for eternity. I hear hell is infested with demon creatures possessing cotton ball tails, longs ears, and sharp teeth.
Just saying. : )
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Reaver, were I you I would give the Bible a little more respect in an effort to avoid hell for eternity. I hear hell is infested with demon creatures possessing cotton ball tails, longs ears, and sharp teeth.
Just saying. : )
Not a bad suggestion, Sledge. If nothing else, it's a heavy enough book to turn demon bunnies into dust bunnies if you swing it hard enough. Some call it the "good" book, but I think it's great!
I Kick Ass for the Lord (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajLfYIHEqzk#ws)
Personally I believe in equal rights for all, but I don't actually understand why marriage is even dictated or recognized by the state, the feds, etc... That's a personal, spiritual choice like what brand of tampon you use, only marriage won't stop the bleeding from a bullet wound...
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Walker I pretty much understand exactly what it means. The Bible doesn't say not to judge in a righteous manner. And plenty of people do, feeling they are righteous, whether they are in fact or not. It also says Judge not lest you be judged. Which means, if you choose to judge others expect to be judged yourself. It's a personal choice to cast the first stone. I make my choices as do everyone else. We will all answer for them accordingly. We can hope to hear words of praise from our creator at the final judgement. But I suspect many will not hear what they were banking on.
Whether someone else turns permissive is none of my business. That is between them and their God or conscience. The fact that someone else develops permissiveness has no effect on my morals or anyone else's unless we choose to let it. It is a personal choice, that free will thing.
If their thoughts or permissiveness has no effect on me then I choose not to take God's place in judging them. I may have opinions and a strong personal disagreement with their actions. But it's not my place to be their final judge. Nor to change their view. If what they do presents a danger to me or mine, then I will no doubt be their final judge. That is a personal choice I would make and no doubt answer for when my time to be judged arrives.
We each decide what the important issues are for ourselves, and each can be different. I do not expect for issues important to me to be the same for you, nor should you for me. We are each individuals, not clones.
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Hetro couples have been messing up marriage for centuries, no harm in letting gay couple have the same rights. My wife, the minister, doesn't see any reason why gay folks can't have the same rights as the rest of us. And she is the smartest non-christian, who will school you three-ways from Sunday service on the bible and it's interpretations.
Marriage isn't a right. Marriage is a covenant between a man and a woman. BIG difference. Kind of like the Second Amendment isn't for hunting. Ya dig? Socialist assholes can call it whatever they want with pretty words, but it doesn't make it true. The only thing homosexuals deserve is to not be heckled, bothered, or murdered. In other words, they can go about their lives. End of story.
Bit late in the game to bring up covenants when the sanctity of marriage has pretty much been ignored by the so-called faithful for centuries. The biblical meaning of marriage has about as much relevance as stoning. Unless your all for old testament punishments. Islam is all over that train, like wise men to a future messiah. I dig, more than you can imagine.
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The married gays I know aren't infringing on anyone's liberties nor are they destroying healthy homes or the sacred institution of family. I just don't see it happening.
Personally I think we have more important things to discuss.
C:-) Move along, nothing to see here.
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You thumpers are so odd. How can you just have blind faith?
Yet talk about sheep in the sense of mindless followers to the government. [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
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You thumpers are so odd. How can you just have blind faith?
Yet talk about sheep in the sense of mindless followers to the government. [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
Blind faith in God - Yes
Blind faith in man - No
Thump, Thump. : )
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C:-) move it along
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Bottom line.
We all should have the right to pursue our own happiness.
Religion based ideas ruin that. If your a constitutionalist you should be pro fag. Just because of they want to be happy with a cock in their mouth they should. Who am I or you to tell them no. Your not.
Look, I'm not a fag, and me personally I think it's fucking gross. But it's not my place to tell them they can't be happy. Do y'all thing. Just leave me out of it.
All I can say to that. ?Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.? John Adams.
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C:-) move it along
LOL! I knew that was going to be coming. I'll stroll along to another thread now officer. :)
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You thumpers are so odd. How can you just have blind faith?
Yet talk about sheep in the sense of mindless followers to the government. [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
It's not blind faith man. It's literally thousands of fulfilled prophecies, miracles, and changed lives that are a testament to what the Bible has to say. And I'll tell you this, man has failed me. No self loathing about it, but I had a pretty tough childhood, tougher teen years, and some fucked up parents. Marriage ain't bad, but life always presents you with challenges. Any time I've called on God he's delivered. Even now, I'm in pain, but he's delivered. I may still be in pain, but I know it's because I'm being chastised for some things. And rightly so. I asked for it. Not specifically back pain, but sometimes being chastised is the best way to clear up the bad shit in your life. And while you may never understand that faith know that it's strong enough that I'd take a bullet for you because of it. Pray that never happens though because my last words to you will be something about bunnies. And you know I'm a smart ass.
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Reaver, lemme give you a lesson (from an old man) about faith. Everytime you apply the brakes, sit in a chair, ride the elevator you have faith in mechanical equipment not to break down, correct? You have faith that your car brakes will work, or the chair will hold you up. Mechanical/physical stuff is not 100% reliable, am I right? I jumped out of planes for five years and had faith every time. I'm still here, much to your dismay. Faith is defined as: "The SUBSTANCE of things hoped for, the EVIDENCE of things not seen." Step up to the plate...
We are at a unique crossroads in history where leaders are needed; and they must have faith.
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You guys are getting me all wrong. I have faith in God, just not Jesus as the son of God. My faith in God is also not whole hearted. I do not and cannot believe that simply praying or having.g faith will get one through the day. God IMO enables you to take care of you're self. My brakes work because I just changed them. The elevator works because my fat ass doesn't exceed the weight limit. If the all mighty wants you, he's ganna get you. Praying to go to his kingdom is like groveling at someone's feet and I'm not a damn slave. I would expect that anyone with all knowing powers would appreciate the things I do, and except me based on my actions in life. ( so far )
Am I making sense to anyone but myself here?
Auto text on my phone is / homosexual / chuckle chuckle. Please bare with me.
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Straight, gay, open, arranged, interracial or polygamous, a marriage between consenting persons of age causes you no harm in anyway, shape or form. Like it or not it's going to happen, frankly I don't care. When you bring the Bible into it it just opens you up to fire, I'm almost certain that there isn't anyone on the anti side that is living a life adhering strictly to the Bible. It's just one more distraction to get your eye off the ball.
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Straight, gay, open, arranged, interracial or polygamous, a marriage between consenting persons of age causes you no harm in anyway, shape or form. Like it or not it's going to happen, frankly I don't care. When you bring the Bible into it it just opens you up to fire, I'm almost certain that there isn't anyone on the anti side that is living a life adhering strictly to the Bible. It's just one more distraction to get your eye off the ball.
Roger fucking that.
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I used to support that viewpoint 100%, "if it doesn't harm me why do I care?"
This is the same argument used by most people who choose not to own a firearm, and willingly vote for degrading the rights of others because "I don't exercise that right anyway, so it does not harm me."
From History: Do we see any parallels in our culture and the downfall of a once great civilization?
"Marcus Aurelius states at one point that almost every other day there was a wealthy person dying who was the last person in their blood line. People didn?t want to spend their wealth on raising children and passing on their wealth to them at an old age. Augustus tried to make family reforms to deal with the poor birth rate and poor family life. Augustus gave tax breaks to married couples who had children, but this didn?t help much because Roman citizens had become used to their freedom from family duties. While Augustus was trying to pass family reforms he couldn?t even stop members of his own family from constantly committing adultery. Many kinds of different sexual practices became accepted. Julius Caesar was called ?Every woman?s man, and every man?s woman? and Nero married a young man. People would eat herbs that made them sterile. People would have abortions if they weren?t up to the task of raising the child. If the child wasn?t the gender that the parents wanted or if the child had any kind of deformity the parents would go leave the child out in the wild to die."
"Some advocates of same-sex "marriage" scoff at the idea that it could harm anyone. Here are several ways in which society could be harmed by legalizing same-sex "marriage." Most of these effects would become evident only in the long run, but several would occur immediately.
Immediate Effects
Taxpayers, consumers, and businesses would be forced to subsidize homosexual relationships.
If same-sex marriage were legalized, all employers, public and private, large or small, would be required to offer spousal benefits to homosexual couples. You, as a taxpayer, consumer, or small business owner, would be forced to bear the expense of subsidizing homosexual relationships-including their higher health care costs.
Schools would teach that homosexual relationships are identical to heterosexual ones.
A lesbian who teaches 8th grade sex education in Massachusetts told NPR that she teaches her children how lesbians use "a sex toy" to have intercourse. If anyone objects, she says, "Give me a break. It's legal now." (it's normal sexual education now right?) One father was jailed after protesting because his son-a kindergarten student-was given a book about same-sex couples.
Freedom of conscience and religious liberty would be threatened.
Churches and non-profit organizations could be stripped of their tax exemptions and religious psychologists, social workers, and marriage counselors could be denied licensing if they "discriminate" against homosexuals.
Homosexuals can sue people who are exercising their religious beliefs. For example, a heterosexual married couple with children who do not want to rent a room in their own family household to homosexuals could be sued for discrimination based on "sexual orientation."
If a self-employed business owner with strong religious convictions refuses to offer his services to homosexuals and he is sued and goes bankrupt, is he harmed? A. Examples of such businesses where a person should be free to refuse services could be things like wedding photographers, masseuses, tutoring, etc.
If a Catholic orphanage is forced to shut down because it is against its religious moral code to turn children over to homosexual couples, is someone hurt?
If a public school teacher voices his disapproval of homosexuality on Facebook on his own time, away from work, in his own home, on his own computer, and is fired from his teaching position, is he harmed?
If a college student refuses to share a dorm room with a homosexual, or speaks out about their behaviors, will they be chastised/expelled for bigotry? (this could be going on now, not sure)
When morally conservative people who disapprove of homosexuality are labeled as "moral dinosaurs," "bigots," "hate mongers," "right wing fanatics," "preachers of hatred," "intolerant," are they harmed?
Long-Term Effects
Fewer people would marry.
In Massachusetts, where same-sex "marriages" began in May 2004, only 52% of same-sex couples who live together had even bothered to "marry" by the end of 2006. Among opposite-sex couples, the comparable figure is 91%. In the Netherlands, the figures are even lower, with only 12% of homosexual couples having entered legal civil "marriages." Giving the option of same-sex "marriage" would tell society that marriage in general is "optional," not normative, and fewer people would marry.
Fewer people would remain monogamous and sexually faithful.
Among homosexual men, sex with multiple partners is tolerated and often expected. One study in the Netherlands showed that homosexual men with a steady partner had an average of eight sexual partners per year. If these behaviors are incorporated into what society affirms as "marriage," then fidelity among heterosexuals would likely decline as well.
Fewer people would remain married for a lifetime.
Even a homosexual psychologist has acknowledged that "gay and lesbian couples dissolve their relationships more frequently than heterosexual couples." The same Dutch study that showed the high rate of homosexual promiscuity also showed that the average homosexual male "partnership" lasts only 1.5 years. As the transience of homosexual relationships is incorporated in society's image of "marriage," we can expect that fewer heterosexuals would maintain a lifelong commitment.
Fewer children would be raised by a married mother and father.
Social science has clearly proven clearly that children do best when raised by their own married biological mother and father. Yet legalizing same-sex "marriage" would put an official stamp of approval on the deliberate creation of permanently motherless or fatherless families. As scholar Stanley Kurtz says, this "would likely speed us on the way toward
. . . more frequent out-of-wedlock birth, and skyrocketing family dissolution."
More children would grow up fatherless.
Most children who live with only one biological parent will live with their mothers, and lesbian couples are more likely to be raising children than homosexual male couples. Therefore, with same-sex "marriage," more children would suffer the specific negative consequences of fatherlessness, which include higher rates of youth incarceration among males and adolescent pregnancy among females. Research also shows negative outcomes for the children of sperm donors, who are used by some lesbian couples.
Demands for legalization of polygamy would grow.
If a person's choice of spouse cannot be limited based on the sex of one's partner, it is hard to see how it could be limited based on the number of spouses either. This argument is already being pressed in the courts.
What he said.
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it's funny that people on here can gouge the fuck out a persons religion in a lame ass atempt to "protect" equality and rights
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it's funny that people on here can gouge the fuck out a persons religion in a lame ass atempt to "protect" equality and rights
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Straight, gay, open, arranged, interracial or polygamous, a marriage between consenting persons of age causes you no harm in anyway, shape or form. Like it or not it's going to happen, frankly I don't care. When you bring the Bible into it it just opens you up to fire, I'm almost certain that there isn't anyone on the anti side that is living a life adhering strictly to the Bible. It's just one more distraction to get your eye off the ball.
CS, if I could give you a million karma points for this, I would.
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Quick question for those active in this thread. Did you guys watch that movie I posted "Agenda: Grinding America Down?"
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Between this thread, and the various pm's I've had with another forum member. I've got to say there isn't much hope left for mankind.
Not sure about the rest of you but I've got prepping to do, rather than worry about if the gay person in my workplace really just wants to rape my ass, sodomize the kids next door, and burn crosses with transvestite jesus nailed to it, in everyones front yard.
Deep end not only achieved, but a whole new level discovered.
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Walker- +1 And thanks for passing it along. That's what I hoped for. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+5&version=NIV (http://www.smileyvault.co
Crudos- No one here is stoning any homosexuals or even calling them names. Maybe you're mistaking us for Islam or Old Testament Jews. Your last PM to me only shows your lack of ability to perceive the ramifications of sin by omission. When a small child goes to touch a burning stove you don't simply set by and watch. All homosexuals I've ministers to sought me out. I never approach them. Beyond this the conversation is pointless because of your normalcy bias. I don't fully believe you're trying to put words in my mouth, but you definitely don't understand a Christian perspective. I strongly suggest you study who started the homosexual movement in this nation. That's one reason I mentioned the movie I posted. It does some of the work for you, but it's not simply about homosexuals. And you're right there isn't much hope left for mankind because of men who fail to humble themselves and seek truth.
Regardless of what religion you are you should have some sound theology to back up your beliefs or it's just irrational. It'd be like Reaver just being terrified of evil bunnies for no reason. (Sorry Reaver, last time I'll mention it.) You haven't offered even one iota of reasoning as to why homosexuals should have marriage other than because you just think so.
Here is what marriage is supposed to be.
[url=http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+5&version=NIV)
And I'm sorry if you feel like I'm putting you on the spot, but you asked to continue this publicly. And just like a conversation about an AR vs an AK I expect reasons, proof, historical references, etc. I've supplied my reasoning and Walker also supplied more to the same affect. And if anyone else wants to chime in with some concrete reasoning to support homosexual marriage than the "just because" social justice political correctness bullshit I'd love to hear it.
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Not sure about the rest of you but I've got prepping to do, rather than worry about if the gay person in my workplace really just wants to rape my ass, sodomize the kids next door, and burn crosses with transvestite jesus nailed to it, in everyones front yard.
This! I'm still not quite sure what the gay issue has to do with a prepping site. Or why the gay issue is important to how to survive the various threats that we face. I agree with TG, we have bigger fish to fry. I suspect whatever happens with gay marriage in the immediate future, it won't have time to cause the listed effects before the rest of the country collapses. I agree with others who have stated that they are done with this thread. To quote " I've got prepping to do"
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Walker I like you I really do you seem like a stand up guy, but you have to make a distinction between government (Force) and liberty (Choice). It's perfectly ok to be morally opposed to an act on every front and at the same time believe in the rights of others to engage in those acts so long as they are not violating another persons life, liberty or property. Much of what you've said is the result of an over reaching government. An employer, renter, church or whatever shouldn't be forced to hire/rent or provide benefits to anyone for any reason. I agree that our culture is fucked and needs to change on many fronts but not through force.
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[img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at Truth folks. Truth. No one here is stopping homosexuals from doing anything. You guys bitch about liberty all the time and yet you don't even realize the homosexual agenda is fueled by the same socialist who have been trying to rip this country apart for years. That's blind and they're getting away with it because otherwise good men back down for fear of not being politically correct. Our nation was not founded on political correctness. No one here wants to stone them, ship them off, or deny them any right. We were founded as a nation based on Judeo-Christian principles. Marriage is a pillar of our nation. If the second amendment isn't for hunting than how would marriage be for gays? Seeing divorce rates climb as our nation falls had ought to tell you how important it really is and that it needs to be protected. The sanctity of marriage is on the line. And while we're talking about rights guys. Hey where are ours? Our kids are taught in schools about why little Adam has two mommies or two daddies. They're taught there's no real right or wrong, evolution is fact, tolerance, and a number of other bullshit ideals. Where's our freedom to raise our children without biases being constantly pushed on them? It's down right pathetic to think this has nothing to do with prepping. No wonder Obama won. Some people are to busy buying in to the lies and to cowardly to speak the truth. We lose over and over again because we are divided over moral issues and there is no resolve left in most men to seek purification of truths. "Nothing to do with prepping." [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
Maybe you guys ought to make a new rule "no posting topic that aren't 100 percent prepping related."
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[img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at Truth folks. Truth. No one here is stopping homosexuals from doing anything. You guys bitch about liberty all the time and yet you don't even realize the homosexual agenda is fueled by the same socialist who have been trying to rip this country apart for years. That's blind and they're getting away with it because otherwise good men back down for fear of not being politically correct. Our nation was not founded on political correctness. No one here wants to stone them, ship them off, or deny them any right. We were founded as a nation based on Judeo-Christian principles. Marriage is a pillar of our nation. If the second amendment isn't for hunting than how would marriage be for gays? Seeing divorce rates climb as our nation falls had ought to tell you how important it really is and that it needs to be protected. The sanctity of marriage is on the line. And while we're talking about rights guys. Hey where are ours? Our kids are taught in schools about why little Adam has two mommies or two daddies. They're taught there's no real right or wrong, evolution is fact, tolerance, and a number of other bullshit ideals. Where's our freedom to raise our children without biases being constantly pushed on them? It's down right pathetic to think this has nothing to do with prepping. No wonder Obama won. Some people are to busy buying in to the lies and to cowardly to speak the truth. We lose over and over again because we are divided over moral issues and there is no resolve left in most men to seek purification of truths. "Nothing to do with prepping." [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
Maybe you guys ought to make a new rule "no posting topic that aren't 100 percent prepping related."
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~ This one is dedicated to crudos ~
... if that be porn, hetero/homosexuality, multiple partners, pedophilia, zoophilia, exhibitionism, masochism, sadism, transvestism, voyeurism, necrophilia, or any other inner desire that generates pleasure...
@Walker
I don't know whether to be disgusted or impressed by your vast knowledge of sexual perversity... So I guess I'll just leave it at this:
The Devils Rejects Chicken Fucker High Quality (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mgnh1zg7ULI#ws)
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Man. This thread just won't die. WW I won't even bother responding to your "pathetic" comment in the hopes that this thread will finally find it's way to it's grave at some point. You can think that I have a pathetic point of view for not agreeing with you if you so choose. It's all good and doesn't matter to me.
Special K - Thank you for reminding me of that video clip. I'm making a mental note to keep in mind after the collapse, " When bartering for chickens, examine them very carefully to avoid cooking up a sexually abused chicken."
To get this thread back into the theme of the forum. Perhaps someone could list items that gays are adverse to that could be carried in a bug out bag to ward them off if they are indeed going to be that prevalent on the road. From what I've seen, most of them are adverse to getting grease on their hands. Perhaps a grease gun in your BOB would come in handy in driving the hordes of them away. Who knows, in their panicked state of mind, after being deprived of food, water, and medication for an extended time. They may start having delusions that the rest of us look like chickens.
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I originated this thread, and wish I hadn't. I'm ready to see it die as much as the next guy. After seeing some of the categories for postings, like "General Off Topic" , Mass Media, Trench Humor" for examples, I didn't know they all had to be Prep related. After reading the description for "Politics", I thought this category would be the place to post something that has been on every news media outlet constantly in the recent past. I guess I was mistaken. While some are okay with the subject, and others are disgusted with it, it was thought provoking. Like I said, I'm ready to see the thread die as much as the next guy, along with other threads ( can't name them right off the bat ) that are dumb as Hell, yet keep going and going and going................ Have a good day!
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I originated this thread, and wish I hadn't. I'm ready to see it die as much as the next guy. After seeing some of the categories for postings, like "General Off Topic" , Mass Media, Trench Humor" for examples, I didn't know they all had to be Prep related. After reading the description for "Politics", I thought this category would be the place to post something that has been on every news media outlet constantly in the recent past. I guess I was mistaken. While some are okay with the subject, and others are disgusted with it, it was thought provoking. Like I said, I'm ready to see the thread die as much as the next guy, along with other threads ( can't name them right off the bat ) that are dumb as Hell, yet keep going and going and going................ Have a good day!
HJ, I don't see anything wrong with posting the article in the way that you did. It is thought provoking. My issue is with those that feel that they are ever going to change someone else's mind on the topic. So they keep arguing a position over and over like it was going to have any effect at all, or that it's their Godly mission to do so in order to save the country. Their passion is impressive, but please, enough is enough when it's the same thing over and over.
If I offended you in any way I apologize, that was not my intent. I've posted my share of the dumb threads that you mentioned. This one looks like it came from the mind of Einstein in comparison to some of them.
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I originated this thread, and wish I hadn't. I'm ready to see it die as much as the next guy. After seeing some of the categories for postings, like "General Off Topic" , Mass Media, Trench Humor" for examples, I didn't know they all had to be Prep related. After reading the description for "Politics", I thought this category would be the place to post something that has been on every news media outlet constantly in the recent past. I guess I was mistaken. While some are okay with the subject, and others are disgusted with it, it was thought provoking. Like I said, I'm ready to see the thread die as much as the next guy, along with other threads ( can't name them right off the bat ) that are dumb as Hell, yet keep going and going and going................ Have a good day!
HJ, I don't see anything wrong with posting the article in the way that you did. It is thought provoking. My issue is with those that feel that they are ever going to change someone else's mind on the topic. So they keep arguing a position over and over like it was going to have any effect at all, or that it's their Godly mission to do so in order to save the country. Their passion is impressive, but please, enough is enough when it's the same thing over and over.
If I offended you in any way I apologize, that was not my intent. I've posted my share of the dumb threads that you mentioned. This one looks like it came from the mind of Einstein in comparison to some of them.
LOL, no, not at all sledge. I just saw it mentioned here and there about dropping it, due to it not being prep related. My reply wasn't to you, it was just general. I was going to post a reply yesterday, but was short on time. Yep, not offended, not upset, nothing. LOL, Have a good one. [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
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i'll just leave it at this,
fuck you all
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Here's one to discuss if we want to continue talking about gays. At least this one has guns in it.
Leftist Hypocrite on Guns Arrested for Having Gun and Demanding Gay Sex
http://theblacksphere.net/2013/03/leftist-hypocrite-on-guns-arrested-for-having-gun/ (http://theblacksphere.net/2013/03/leftist-hypocrite-on-guns-arrested-for-having-gun/)
NYC mayor Bloomberg needs to spend less time policing soda and more time vetting his coalition, Mayors Against Illegal Guns. In Marcus Hook, PA, Mayor James ?Jay? Schiliro, a member of Bloomberg-sponsored gun control organization ?Mayors Against Illegal Guns? was arrested and charged in connection with a handgun incident at his home.
Schiliro, 38, allegedly ordered a local police officer to bring a 20-year-old male friend to his home, where the mayor plied him with alcohol, and made sexual advances which the man refused. Schiliro allegedly brandished several handguns and fired one of them into the floor in an apparent attempt to intimidate the young man, who reportedly was in fear of his life. I guess this 20-year old male ?friend? didn?t realize the mayor?s home was not a ?safe zone.? Holy Joe Biden, why didn?t the kid just fire a shot gun or do what the CO legislator recommended, which is ?just TAKE IT!?
Schiliro faces charges of official oppression, reckless endangerment, unlawful restraint, false imprisonment, and furnishing a minor with alcohol. He surrendered to authorities on Thursday morning, and his attorney declared that ?we intend to fight these charges.? Hopefully without a GUN!
The mayor was freed on $50,000 bail and told to stay away from the alleged victim and give up his stash of firearms.
It is said that Schiliro is a Republican, but I don?t believe it. He has refused requests by town officials to step down, and he intends to continue to run in the May 21 contested mayoral primary. Mayors Against Illegal Guns reportedly dropped him immediately from the list of coalition supporters when this news emerged, however, and he no longer appears on the website of the organization of approximately 800 mayors, mostly Democrats, which is led by NYC Mayor Bloomberg. Looks like Bloomberg?s group may have lost its token?
Schiliro isn?t the only member of Mayors Against Illegal Guns who has run into trouble with the law. For example, Craig Lowe, the Democrat major of Gainesville, Florida, who appears in a gun-control commercial with Mayor Bloomberg, was recently arrested for DUI at the scene of a crash when the Highway Patrol found him asleep behind the wheel of his car. Other elected officials in the group have allegedly been been charged with corruption, assaulting a police officer, and child sex crimes. You gotta love those Democrats!
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You know what guys personally what ever you all support is up to you, but I'd prefer to think of you all as wiser men than that. After all, you are preppers, you support the Constitution, and you love what the USA stands for.....er used to stand for. I'm just really shocked to see you all supporting the same things that Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama do. That's your call though. I mean, maybe guys like Walker and I just need to wake up and realize Obama, Pelosi, and Reid really have our nation's best interest at heart.
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You know what guys personally what ever you all support is up to you, but I'd prefer to think of you all as wiser men than that. After all, you are preppers, you support the Constitution, and you love what the USA stands for.....er used to stand for. I'm just really shocked to see you all supporting the same things that Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama do. That's your call though. I mean, maybe guys like Walker and I just need to wake up and realize Obama, Pelosi, and Reid really have our nation's best interest at heart.
The first amendment bro.
Freedom of Religion, or lack of.
Because not following your god is actually ok under these laws.
Even if you don't like it. I know, its hard for ( one of hundreds of different types of Christians ) to not enforce your shit on others. I know, I've seen it.
To bad its not going to work and Amendment 1 is why.
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You know what guys personally what ever you all support is up to you, but I'd prefer to think of you all as wiser men than that. After all, you are preppers, you support the Constitution, and you love what the USA stands for.....er used to stand for. I'm just really shocked to see you all supporting the same things that Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama do. That's your call though. I mean, maybe guys like Walker and I just need to wake up and realize Obama, Pelosi, and Reid really have our nation's best interest at heart.
The first amendment bro.
Freedom of Religion, or lack of.
Because not following your god is actually ok under these laws.
Even if you don't like it. I know, its hard for ( one of hundreds of different types of Christians ) to not enforce your shit on others. I know, I've seen it.
To bad its not going to work and Amendment 1 is why.
There's a big difference between forcing someone and appealing to them Reaver. Do you see me holding a gun to anyone's head? Don't think so. I believe in freedom of speech, but it's possible to abuse that by spraying shit that's a lie. Hey, anyone ever find those WMD's in Iraq? Good example of freedom of speech run a muck. Yet it's ok for the government to support Syrian rebels who are beheading Christians overseas? So I guess I have to ask whose freedom of speech you really want to defend? People you agree with or people who tell the truth? If you just don't get it man and that's fine. I realize that, but Reaver you're still supporting the left's agenda. At least I can sleep at night knowing I'm not falling for the bullshit. Because EVERYTHING they spout is a lie. Or do you believe DHS is just stockpiling ammo because it's "cheaper to order it in bulk?" I mean if the enemy of my enemy is my friend what does that make the friend of my enemy? I think that's pretty obvious.
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Im with Mountain.
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You know what guys personally what ever you all support is up to you, but I'd prefer to think of you all as wiser men than that. After all, you are preppers, you support the Constitution, and you love what the USA stands for.....er used to stand for. I'm just really shocked to see you all supporting the same things that Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama do. That's your call though. I mean, maybe guys like Walker and I just need to wake up and realize Obama, Pelosi, and Reid really have our nation's best interest at heart.
The first amendment bro.
Freedom of Religion, or lack of.
Because not following your god is actually ok under these laws.
Even if you don't like it. I know, its hard for ( one of hundreds of different types of Christians ) to not enforce your shit on others. I know, I've seen it.
To bad its not going to work and Amendment 1 is why.
There's a big difference between forcing someone and appealing to them Reaver. Do you see me holding a gun to anyone's head? Don't think so. I believe in freedom of speech, but it's possible to abuse that by spraying shit that's a lie. Hey, anyone ever find those WMD's in Iraq? Good example of freedom of speech run a muck. Yet it's ok for the government to support Syrian rebels who are beheading Christians overseas? So I guess I have to ask whose freedom of speech you really want to defend? People you agree with or people who tell the truth? If you just don't get it man and that's fine. I realize that, but Reaver you're still supporting the left's agenda. At least I can sleep at night knowing I'm not falling for the bullshit. Because EVERYTHING they spout is a lie. Or do you believe DHS is just stockpiling ammo because it's "cheaper to order it in bulk?" I mean if the enemy of my enemy is my friend what does that make the friend of my enemy? I think that's pretty obvious.
I don't support them. Yet I'm not against them because I actually believe in the pursuit of happiness. For some it's taking dick in the ass.
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So let me make sure I got this right. You'll support another guy seeking a piece of gay ass to fulfill his sexual desires and call it "pursuit of happiness," but you won't support christians trying to pursue the betterment of humanity through moral influence? I mean shit Reaver. Does that mean you'll support another guy pursuing your wife? How about your kid? That's all in pursuit of sexual happiness to someone too ain't it? I sure am happy I have friends that died over in that dust ball defending gay sex. [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at Somehow this just seems more like you're saying it to get under my skin lol, but whatever man. You're still in bed with Pelosi on this one. No way around it. Sleep tight.
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[img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at He caught onto my trollolololz
I guess we can finally kill this thread now.