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Post HPSCI Memo Here - Discuss
« on: February 02, 2018, 12:58:51 PM »
Supposedly the HPSCI Memo on FISA abuse has been released but I can not find it anywhere to read. Please post the full text here. Once someone does that the topic is open for discussion.
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Re: Post HPSCI Memo Here - Discuss
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2018, 01:04:04 PM »
Here is a link to the memo however I have not been able to "copy & paste".
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Re: Post HPSCI Memo Here - Discuss
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2018, 04:53:49 PM »
It appears there was collusion between the FBI, the DOJ, and the DNC to rig the election of Hillary Clinton using a foreign intelligence agent.  Both governmental agencies did not perform due diligence, and the problems originated at the highest levels.  There should be trials for those that were directly involved in these shenanigans, and the strictest sentences should be enforced.  Was it treason or sedition?  If so, hang them on live television and webcast the executions.  If other government employees see that their actions have consequences, they might be more diligent and more effective.

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Re: Post HPSCI Memo Here - Discuss
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2018, 05:24:18 PM »
 There is nothing new in the report. We knew everything before hand this report just justifies what we already knew.
 My opinion is that using a foreign intelligent agent to overthrow the President elect and then the President is treason.   
 Because the democrat party was so much against this memo coming out and the push to remove President Trump shows they knew what was happening and are complicit and the public should be informed about it.
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2018, 05:26:22 PM »
There is nothing new in the report. We knew everything before hand this report just justifies what we already knew.

that sums it up nicely.

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Re: Post HPSCI Memo Here - Discuss
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2018, 05:33:14 PM »
Yes JoJo and Kbop you are right BUT we only suspected it now it has been verified.

The question is, where does it go from here?

If I was in charge, I would hold the named guilty's retirement over their heads to get to the bottom of "it". It is the visible crack in the damn.
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Re: Post HPSCI Memo Here - Discuss
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2018, 05:46:04 PM »
And if I was in charge I'd charge them with treason and put a rope over their heads....they wouldn't need retirement where they would be going...

As an aside, notice how the stock market fell today.  It may be an attempt at distraction by the Deep State.
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Re: Post HPSCI Memo Here - Discuss
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2018, 06:41:17 PM »
 They should not be allowed to roam free. They must be locked up. If not they can still damage the country. There are many liberals out there, Soros comes to mind that would use thier knowledge to try and take the President and this country down.
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Re: Post HPSCI Memo Here - Discuss
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2018, 07:08:13 PM »
Although I have similar feeling's Jackalope & Jojo, however, there is a role for Lady Justice. Disclosure, indictments, trial, and then if guilty... Sentencing.

IMO, these guys are low fruit where the higher, more sweeter fruit leads to Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton and their imps of hell.
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Re: Post HPSCI Memo Here - Discuss
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2018, 09:56:31 PM »
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IMO, these guys are low fruit where the higher, more sweeter fruit leads to Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton and their imps of hell.


I don't think they are the top people because they are driven by greed more so than power. The new world order, the big banks and people like Soros, Merkle and the EU to name a few I believe are the top. Obama is just a lackey and Clinton a useful idiot. 
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Re: Post HPSCI Memo Here - Discuss
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2018, 10:30:42 AM »
Thx Nemo however the same document was posted in #1 reply above.  :thumbsUp:
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Re: Post HPSCI Memo Here - Discuss
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2018, 01:45:38 PM »
 Something to think about. Comey showed the dossier to President Trump was he trying to blackmail the President?

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/02/03/16-nunes-memo-bombshells-media-not-want-know/


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by John Nolte3 Feb 201812,546
In its partisan zeal to protect the ongoing witch hunt against President Trump, our Nixonian media went into hyper-drive last week to ensure that the unethical and un-American behavior of President Obama’s FBI and Justice Department remained covered up from the public.

After this cynical effort failed with the release of the Nunes memo Friday, the media quickly switched tactics and is now working feverishly to muddy the waters about the horror show revealed in the memo.

To begin with, it is obvious that a hysterical talking point about declaring the release of the memo a “Constitutional Crisis” has been spread far and wide… Naturally, the “constitutional crisis” in question is not the wrongdoing committed by federal law enforcement. Instead, because we are now deep within the head of the media’s fabricated reality where wrong is right and up is down, the “constitutional crisis” is that government wrongdoing was uncovered.

One way the media are hoping to shield the federal government from accountability for its indefensible lies, cover-ups, and civil rights violations is to muddy the waters; to distract us with nonsense so that we lose focus on the sins committed by an FBI and Department of Justice (DOJ) that abused its power and public trust in unprecedented ways.

Here are 16 things the media do not want you to know about the Nunes memo:

    The so-called Russian Dossier, the creation of Fusion GPS and former British spy Christopher Steele, is a political document — namely, opposition research, created for the Democrat National Committee and Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign.
    Using what it knew was opposition research paid for by the Clinton campaign, in October of 2016, the FBI and DOJ obtained a FISA warrant from the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to install a wiretap to spy on Hillary Clinton’s opponent — the Trump campaign, specifically Carter Page. This spying would last for a year.
    It should be noted that the FISA court was set up to stop foreign terrorists. The fact that the FBI and DOJ would use this court to not only wiretap an American but to wiretap a presidential campaign belies belief. Why Obama’s FBI and DOJ used this court as opposed to a normal court is obvious. As you will see below, a normal court probably would have denied the wiretap.
    Worse still, in the summer of 2016, Obama’s DOJ had already opened a counter-intelligence investigation into the Trump campaign. The fact that nothing from that months-old partisan investigation was used to obtain the Page wiretap is revealing.
    According to the Nunes memo, an “essential” part of the FISA wiretap application was the Steele dossier, which again is a partisan political document created for the Clinton campaign.
    So essential was this partisan dossier, Andrew McCabe, the disgraced former-Deputy Director of the FBI, admitted in December that “no surveillance warrant would have been sought” without the dossier.
    Not only did the FBI knowingly use a document from a partisan campaign to obtain a FISA warrant to spy on the competing campaign, the FBI knew the dossier was mostly “salacious and unverified.” We know this because disgraced former-FBI Director James Comey told us so in June of 2017.
    According to the Nunes memo, “Steele told [former FBI official Bruce] Ohr, he ‘was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not being president.'”
    Ohr, who was part of the FBI’s anti-Trump Russian investigation, was not only friendly with Steele, Ohr’s own wife worked with Steele at Fusion GPS doing opposition research (the dossier) against Trump for the Clinton campaign.
    Despite a) knowing the dossier was opposition research paid for by the Clinton campaign b) knowing the dossier was “salacious and unverified” c) knowing Steele was desperate to destroy Trump d) the breathtaking conflict of interest in having an investigator’s own wife working on the dossier, the FBI still went to the FISA court to obtain permission to spy on Hillary Clinton’s opponent.
    In order to obtain a warrant to spy on the Trump campaign, all of the conflicts of interest above were withheld from the FISA court — an indefensible (and possibly illegal) lie of omission.
    Even worse, in order to legitimize a warrant request based on a piece of partisan opposition research they knew was “salacious and unverified,” the FBI and DOJ used a media report to bolster the findings in the phony dossier. The FBI and DOJ told the court that the media report was independent verification of the dossier. But this was not true, and, according to the Nunes memo, the FBI and DOJ knew this was not true. The truth is that the phony dossier was the source of this media report.
    Also hidden from the FISA court was the fact that the FBI obtained Steele as a source but had to fire him in October of 2016 when, in a bid to use his phony dossier to derail the Trump campaign, he leaked his information to the far-left Mother Jones.
    Although the FBI and DOJ were willing participants in pushing a “salacious and unverified” narrative against a presidential candidate (primarily through media leaks), this was all hidden from congressional investigators. To begin with, for months, while under oath, Comey said he did not know where the dossier came from — meaning from the Clinton campaign. The Wall Street Journal explains:

We also know the FBI wasn’t straight with Congress, as it hid most of these facts from investigators in a briefing on the dossier in January 2017. The FBI did not tell Congress about Mr. Steele’s connection to the Clinton campaign, and the House had to issue subpoenas for Fusion bank records to discover the truth. Nor did the FBI tell investigators that it continued receiving information from Mr. Steele and Fusion even after it had terminated him. The memo says the bureau’s intermediary was Justice Department official Bruce Ohr, whose wife, incredibly, worked for Fusion.

    All of this dishonesty occurred under Comey, the man our media now hold up as a living saint, a man so desperate to destroy Trump, he not only oversaw those committing the above abuses, he leaked classified information to the news media in order to see a Special Prosecutor appointed against Trump, which his pal, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, immediately did.

And finally…

16. Much of the “salacious and unverified” material in the dossier came from the Russians. In other words, those disgusting dossier lies about Trump’s personal behavior came from Russian operatives. So there is no question that it was the Clinton campaign, Democrats, Steele, the FBI, and DOJ who colluded with the Russians to rig a presidential election.

Yes, there was collusion with the Russians, and those in our government currently investigating Trump in the hopes of overturning a presidential election are the colluders.
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Re: Post HPSCI Memo Here - Discuss
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2018, 02:16:26 PM »
All the letter agencies are corrupt from the top down. It is pretty much impossible to have anyone within any agency who in not corrupt simply because $hit rolls down hill.

The top is bad, those just below them know they cannot be a whistle blower or their carriers are over in any agency. They need to tow the line or else.

Remember Waco, Ruby Ridge, IRS targeting conservative groups, Fast & Furious and countless others, where they committed crimes and then protected their own.

As far as the memo goes, it exposes a coup which is far worse than anything we have ever experienced as a Nation and if real justice is not served fast and HARD, it will only get worse
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Re: Post HPSCI Memo Here - Discuss
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2018, 06:13:44 PM »
 grizz you are so right :thumbsUp: What I don't understand is why President trump doesn't force the FISA court to release the papers asking for the warrant. Who was the FISA court judge and who appointed him. Was it our former Muslim Leader
Also now that it is proven that their was no collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians Sessions should unrecuse himself and take over the investigation releasing Muiller and his partisan cohorts.
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Re: Post HPSCI Memo Here - Discuss
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2018, 09:45:08 PM »
grizz you are so right :thumbsUp: What I don't understand is why President trump doesn't force the FISA court to release the papers asking for the warrant. Who was the FISA court judge and who appointed him. Was it our former Muslim Leader
Also now that it is proven that their was no collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians Sessions should unrecuse himself and take over the investigation releasing Muiller and his partisan cohorts.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the judge was just as corrupt as everyone else BUT I seriously doubt there is ANYTHING in writing to prove he/she is corrupt
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Re: Post HPSCI Memo Here - Discuss
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2018, 11:23:32 PM »
The FISA court was created under our RINO President Bush. The judges were most likely RINO judges also. That's why they turned Comey down the first time. When he showed up the second time with manufactured evidence, they approved the warrant. Its all going to come back on Comey and I'm guessing he will ask for immunity and throw all the coconspirators under the bus. I'd be OK with that as long as the head conspirator Hillary goes to the slammer.

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Re: Post HPSCI Memo Here - Discuss
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2018, 06:59:12 AM »
All true pkveazey and I too think Comey will sing.

With that written I do not think this thread will lead to either Mr. Obama or Mrs. Clinton.

Similar to the IRS scandal, Obama NEVER told Lois Lerner to do what she did. She just knew what she did would make Obama happy.

If enough folks are implemented and then indicted, some person who would like a name for themselves, Ala John Dean, may come forward and expose Clinton but never Obama.

The thing that sits im my craw is that all peoples, left or right should want a head or two. Currently, it is the DEM's arming the alphabet agency's...Next time could be the GOP.
 
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Re: Post HPSCI Memo Here - Discuss
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2018, 09:38:36 AM »
And then dare we consider the idea that Comey meets Seth's friend?

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« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2018, 01:41:49 PM »
Oh what a tangled web we weave,
When first we practis[c]e to deceive! Sir Walter Scott
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