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Offline Nemo

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Next Friday?
« on: March 22, 2019, 10:15:01 AM »
Article says so.  Hang on.  My nickel says its happening with no deal.

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https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-military-steps-up-preparations-in-case-of-no-deal-11671941


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No deal beckons: EU presses May on Brexit deal
by Reuters
Thursday, 21 March 2019 15:04 GMT

* EU leaders meet on PM's request to delay Brexit to June 30

* May says she regrets having to ask for extension

* DUP: Not yet ready to support May's deal

* UK parliament divided on how, when or whether to leave

* EU fears longer Brexit delay could weigh on EU elections

* If no change, Britain to leave EU at 2300 GMT on March 29 (Adds Barnier, detail)

By Richard Lough and William James

BRUSSELS, March 21 (Reuters) - French President Emmanuel Macron warned Prime Minister Theresa May on Thursday that Britain would face a disorderly departure from the European Union if she fails to get parliamentary approval for her deal on the third attempt next week.

Just eight days before Britain is due to leave the EU, May was making a last-ditch plea to the bloc's 27 other leaders in Brussels to hand her a Brexit delay until June 30, a request she said was "a matter of personal regret" and one she firmly pinned on her country's deeply divided parliament.

EU leaders are expected to grant her two extra months to organise a smooth exit -- but only on the condition that the British leader can get her deal through parliament, something even members of her own government increasingly doubt.

If she fails, leaders expect to meet again next week, to consider either a delay until next year to let Britain radically re-think its Brexit plans -- or pulling the plug and letting it crash out into legal limbo next Friday.

Growing investor concerns that Britain could leave the EU without a deal sent sterling to a one-week low.

"We must be clear, to ourselves, our British friends and our people," Macron said on arrival at the 24-hour summit.

"Firstly, we've been negotiating the withdrawal agreement for two years. It cannot be renegotiated. Secondly, in the event of another no vote in Britain, we will be heading towards a no deal. Everyone knows it."

European leaders must not let the turmoil surrounding Brexit drag on, the French leader said.

The EU's negotiator Michel Barnier said with a note of resignation: "We have done our best. Now the solution is in London."

May said she was still working on getting parliament's support for her deal, which envisages close economic ties with the EU after Brexit.

"I am still working on ensuring that parliament can agree a deal so that we can leave in an orderly way," she told reporters, referring to talks ministers are having with pro-Brexit members of her Conservative Party and lawmakers in the Northern Irish party, the DUP, which props up her government.

"A short extension would give parliament the time to make a final choice that delivers on the result of the referendum."

EU diplomats said her request for a delay to June 30 was likely to be met by an EU preference for Britain to have completed formalities and begin a status-quo transition to departure before Europeans elect a new parliament from May 23.

"With regard to the date of June 30, we have to take into consideration that we have European elections in May," said German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

"We can discuss this wish next week if we have a positive vote in the British parliament on the exit agreement."

CHAOTIC

May's chances hang in the balance, with positions hardening after a chaotic week when the parliament's speaker questioned whether she could even bring her deal to a third vote.

The DUP, which gives May's government a majority in parliament, said it was no closer to backing her agreement, the party's Brexit spokesman said on Thursday, while eurosceptics also say they could never approve something they say would trap Britain in the EU's orbit indefinitely.

In a challenge to May, opposition Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn was also in Brussels, speaking to EU officials about his alternative plan for Brexit, which he says could be negotiated during an extension and pass through parliament.

Irish Prime Minister Leo Varadkar summed up the situation in London, with no little understatement, as "somewhat chaotic".

"We need to cut the entire British establishment a little bit of slack on this and support their request ... for a short extension," he told reporters. "No deal will only ever be a British choice."

With parliament and political parties divided, deadlock could mean Britain lurching by default into legal limbo outside the EU at 11 p.m. (2300 GMT) on March 29.

If the deal is saved, EU leaders would sign off remotely next week on an extension of the deadline to mid-May, or perhaps the end of June, before the new EU parliament convenes.

But if May fails next week, leaders expect to return for an emergency council at which Britain could either be given another year or more to sort out its crisis - if it can convince them it has a plan to do that - or be told it is leaving on Friday.

The other 27 states have struggled for three years since Britain voted 52-48 percent to leave to avoid disruption to their own economies and citizens of a hard Brexit.

Many now fear simply rolling over the problem for more weeks and months with no clear resolution in sight is doing more harm to a Union beset by populist nationalists likely to do well in the EU elections and by a fast-changing global economy in which China and the United States are posing new challenges.

As Brexit is sapping EU resources, the leaders will also turn to other pressing issues on Thursday and Friday, including the state of their economies, ties with China, climate change and ringfencing the European elections from illegitimate interference. (Reporting by Robin Emmott, Gabriela Baczynska, Elizabeth Piper, Richard Lough, Anthony Deutsch, Philip Blenkinsop, Giulia Paravicini, William James, Thomas Escritt, Jan Strupczewski and Alastair Macdonald in Brussels and Guy Faulconbridge and Kylie MacLellan in London Writing by Alastair Macdonald, Jan Strupczewski and Elizabeth Piper; Editing by Janet Lawrence and Alastair Macdonald)
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Re: Next Friday?
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2019, 10:42:00 AM »
I am watching this more out of curiosity since I do not have a dog in this hunt.

Regardless of my back seat I do have some thoughts...

1) The exit from the EU was June of 2016, just shy of 3-years. You would have thought the
     debate on how to exit would have been solved by now. Just weeks before the dead-line.

     Gadget can talk to this better than I can however from across the Pond it appears to this
     arm-chair quarterback, "they" were hoping that the citizens of the UK would rise up and
     demand another vote on the exit. Well it never happened.

2) I heard on the radio the other day, that Mr. Trump has offered to help out during the exit
    process by signing many trading partnerships with the UK as is needed by them multiple
    times. Trade in manufacturing reduced tariffs, etc. As of this date, Mrs. May and her
    cabinet have declined the offers.

3) I suspect May is done and new PM elections will be held by mid-summer. I also suspect
    that since BREXIT was a Labor Party push at the time, the Labor Party will take up
    residence at 10 Downing Street.

Interesting times we live in folks.
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Re: Next Friday?
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2019, 02:27:18 PM »
 Some people are to dumb to know when they've been beaten. How many times does MAY have to be hit on the head to understand it's over!.
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Re: Next Friday?
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2019, 04:49:22 PM »
She has had to face a couple but the No Confidence vote has not passed.

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Re: Next Friday?
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2019, 01:41:28 AM »
I am watching this more out of curiosity since I do not have a dog in this hunt.

Regardless of my back seat I do have some thoughts...

1) The exit from the EU was June of 2016, just shy of 3-years. You would have thought the
     debate on how to exit would have been solved by now. Just weeks before the dead-line.

     Gadget can talk to this better than I can however from across the Pond it appears to this
     arm-chair quarterback, "they" were hoping that the citizens of the UK would rise up and
     demand another vote on the exit. Well it never happened.

2) I heard on the radio the other day, that Mr. Trump has offered to help out during the exit
    process by signing many trading partnerships with the UK as is needed by them multiple
    times. Trade in manufacturing reduced tariffs, etc. As of this date, Mrs. May and her
    cabinet have declined the offers.

3) I suspect May is done and new PM elections will be held by mid-summer. I also suspect
    that since BREXIT was a Labor Party push at the time, the Labor Party will take up
    residence at 10 Downing Street.

Interesting times we live in folks.

Hi All,

Front row seat to this complete mess here in the UK.

Six days out and what a mess.

Would love to provide a solid update as to what is going to be happening. Yet nobody knows. All the political drama with no tangible clear path in sight.

I can state however that it is clear that the UK Government has done very little to prepare for a no-deal brexit. All efforts have been concentrated on winning political power from the situation. Very few politician's actually seem even the least bit concerned about the welfare of the populace.

So here we sit wondering what the outcome is going to be. There may be an extension delaying it beyond next week. Yet I very much doubt that will be the case. It would take the EU granting concessions that are not in their interests.

We shall see.

Will try and keep updates coming in when possible.

As opposed to quoting what is in mainstream media. I will focus on observed and reported affects on the ground as I see them.

Cheers all.


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Re: Next Friday?
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2019, 07:56:48 AM »
Read a news report in the last day or so where Trump has basically said he has Britian covered.  About anything needed over there we got for them.

I am confident that will make part of Europe happy.  Another part will be stomping their feet and pouting.

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Re: Next Friday?
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2019, 10:19:18 PM »
OH MY LORD!!!!!!!!!!!

This would considered almost funny if it was not tied to the health of the UK moving forward.

Talk about embarrassing.

Once again all I can report from the UK is that this BREXIT thing is one complete mess.

Worst of all. There is no way to predict what is actually going to happen.

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Re: Next Friday?
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2019, 06:22:17 AM »
Not much to add to the great thoughts from all here.

Similarly here in the States, the Global Elites are sticking it in the eyes of the mob, the dirty fly-over folks who voted for Trump and Brexit. Their message is clear, "do what the experts say". The graduates from Harvard, Yale, and U of Oxford who run the world.
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