Unchained Preppers
General Category => News & Politics => Topic started by: CrystalHunter1989 on February 07, 2013, 10:45:26 AM
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/07/us/lapd-attacks/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 (http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/07/us/lapd-attacks/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)
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It may sound bad but at least they are killing each other for a change.
Maybe the drug war will get a few days off.
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Ouch dude, ouch.
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Good for him.
Glad someone else round this country knows how to hold a grudge. C:-)
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Fired Cop Praised Obama, Piers Morgan & Gun Control, Ripped NRA in Portions of Supposed Manifesto Redacted at LAPD?s Request
Link: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/07/fired-lapd-cop-praised-obama-piers-morgan-gun-control-ripped-the-nra-in-portions-of-supposed-manifesto-redacted-at-lapds-request/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/07/fired-lapd-cop-praised-obama-piers-morgan-gun-control-ripped-the-nra-in-portions-of-supposed-manifesto-redacted-at-lapds-request/)
its interesting how he praised all the big government progressives in his manifesto...it seems the "snow ball" is rolling faster and faster towards the village.
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Here are my thoughts on the topic:
It is too soon to tell what is really going on with this man. I can very easily imagine that he had devoted his life to being a LEO. And maybe whatever got him canned was his fault or maybe it was the typical BS office politics that is EXTREMELY apparent in many agencies now days, ESPECIALLY ones as large as LA.
Did he try other avenues to pursue furthering his LE career like going to a different department? Maybe he had and was turned down because of what he had been fired for. If that is the and he is looking at his dream being smashed I can imagine how upset he would be. Does this justify MURDER, no. I can think of a million ways to ruin the life of someone without taking theirs. And we all no the current kind of justice system we have today, especially in places like Cali. So who knows.
Is this guy crazy? Maybe. Or maybe he is simply "jumping the gun" and go about it the wrong way. Of course we are seeing the heavy handed and wild response of the PD to this threat. With officers randomly shooting up vehicles that just HAPPEN TO LOOK like his. His best bet is to lay very low for a while and just let fear and the consequences that will follow take shape.
And naturally, the guy is a VET so I see the MSM hammering that like a crazed addict with an 8 ball. [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
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Like what OONW wrote...Stay tuned.
On another note: I would like to see the guy beat LA's finest. [url=http://www.freesmileys.or
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Was going to past the manifesto here but DAMN its long lol. So go here and read it.
http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2013/02/07/breaking/ (http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2013/02/07/breaking/)
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Just a thought.
There are a lot of people angry with the police, justifiably or not, for past run ins they or their family were involved in. If copy cats start popping up around the country what do you think would happen next? "To protect our police, to protect innocent civilians who drive cars resembling the cop killers, we are now forced to enact Executive Orders ............"
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Just a thought.
There are a lot of people angry with the police, justifiably or not, for past run ins they or their family were involved in. If copy cats start popping up around the country what do you think would happen next? "To protect our police, to protect innocent civilians who drive cars resembling the cop killers, we are now forced to enact Executive Orders ............"
We are on the same wave length... :o ;D
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Just a thought.
There are a lot of people angry with the police, justifiably or not, for past run ins they or their family were involved in. If copy cats start popping up around the country what do you think would happen next? "To protect our police, to protect innocent civilians who drive cars resembling the cop killers, we are now forced to enact Executive Orders ............"
Without commenting on moral or personal thoughts I'd like to point out the effect one individual has had on the l.a. pd alone. Think about those numbers of officers as well as supporting agencies, the man hours being dedicated and security details for the mandarins (couldn't help myself there), consider the trigger happy incidents that have already happened to innocents that happened to have a similar vehicle or description.
One guy. One , let that sink in.
What happens when piles of people start losing it? What happens when others with a little more restraint but the same madness see the opportunity in chaos? What happens when long held grudges held in check by fear of legal consequence see an opportunity? What will happen when the free shit army sees an opening for upgrading their flatscreen or grabbing some goodies? What happens when the flow of ssri drugs is interrupted?
Now think about this in a country with more civilian owned weapons than the chinese army. Executive orders won't mean shit.
Can't help but think of an old members line "got tribe?"
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Like what OONW wrote...Stay tuned. On another note: I would like to see the guy beat LA's finest.
This is the worst shooting incident in LAPD history since the North Hollywood robbery back in the 90s. Unlike Phillips and Motesorano, THIS guy is a trained professional with a mission far beyond petty cash. The LAPD has had access to military surplus M-16s since the 90s, but never a nemesis. From what I've read, they're in full-blown panic mode. I'm thinking this could be as huge as John Brown's Raid.
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John Brown's raid you say Crystal. Man O' man that's some heavy stuff. No seriously...Look it up gals and gents.
My wife is finishing the first Bracken book Enemies: Foreign and Domestic; Which we had to sign away our first born to get from the local library. No seriously!
My wife and I had a pretty heavy discussion at dinner this evening of what is coming. It was not a pleasant conversation.
I am the tin foil tricorned hat of the family BUT the stuff she was coming up with made me look like I only had a tin foiled beanie on.
Apparently she had suppressed her fears of our present government and what the future holds. She is the most level headed gal I have ever known; however this evening she is really scared of what is coming down the pike. I even put on some Cowboy junkies which usually helps her mello out... Nope, she is back at that damn book!
I see more money spent: Bullets, beans and band-aides when she is done [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
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I see more money spent: Bullets, beans and band-aides when she is done
[URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
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I know what you're saying JM. Women are definitely getting serious about stocking up. In the past three weeks my GF has stocked water purification, food, medicine, purchased 2 mini 14's and a mini 30, bought 3000 rounds of 7.62x39, 4,000 rounds of .223 (and she was quite pleased to pay .70 a round), and through a fit of disgust because she missed an auction for 1,000 rounds .380 before it closed. Thank God she has her own money. She's also got 3 realtors looking for property close to mine in northern Arkansas. She thinks my 5 acre tract isn't big enough for the plans she has.
Seven months ago she only owned an 870 that she had never fired. I'd say she has come a long way.
Oh, sorry for misdirecting the topic.
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I live in northern Arkansas, hit me up some time sledge.
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Hey Sledge, where you been my whole life?
Good to hear all is well in your world buddy.
I like what you were saying Colombo, they have run down two innocent women and shot them up because of the make and model of truck they were in.. wasn't even the right color.
(http://sandrarose.com/images17/LA_Police_Shootings_549x338.jpg)
They are so freaked out they are running around town full retard and blasting away at anyone with a Nissan pick up.
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Hey Sledge, where you been my whole life?
Good to hear all is well in your world buddy.
I like what you were saying Colombo, they have run down two innocent women and shot them up because of the make and model of truck they were in.. wasn't even the right color.
([url]http://sandrarose.com/images17/LA_Police_Shootings_549x338.jpg[/url])
They are so freaked out they are running around town full retard and blasting away at anyone with a Nissan pick up.
Isn't it great.... and like someone said before. THIS IS ONE MAN! What the fuck are they going to do when they piss off an army! hahaahahahahahah Fucking love it!
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Here's something even more important to consider. This guy has reintroduced the idea of violently resisting against a tyrannical government to the mainstream. Until now, the only thing people have seen are guys talking about it. Now they're seeing it in action. Justified or not, Dorner's message will have tremendous repercussions.
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I live in northern Arkansas, hit me up some time sledge.
Next time that I'm up that way we'll see about meeting up RS. It'll probably be this summer unless she finds some property that she likes before hand. She's put a lot of requirements on the realtors because she wants to get into hydroponics and raise horses. She's about convinced me that the days of the horseless carriage are numbered.
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It only seems that way to us CrystalHunter, to the rest of the world this guys is a post service PTSD wack job.
Watch the language gentlemen, every man who hurts someone with a gun is now a 'gun man,' every cop is a 'hero' and Rational Citizens are getting all kinds of bad raps thrown at them.
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Here's something even more important to consider. This guy has reintroduced the idea of violently resisting against a tyrannical government to the mainstream. Until now, the only thing people have seen are guys talking about it. Now they're seeing it in action. Justified or not, Dorner's message will have tremendous repercussions.
CH it is going to be very interesting to see if this spark he is lighting catches into a blaze. I think that will depend on how long he evades execution. If he becomes some kind of legend to the urban riffraff this could get very nasty in a short amount of time. If they get him quickly its a warning to anyone, group or class of people who holds a grudge against the police or authority.
I'm thinking that there are people in high places chomping at the bit to not let a good crises go to waste.
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and the LAPD was going around pulling over every nissan titan they saw... even shot up 2 of them...their bad, both times...
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and the LAPD was going around pulling over every nissan titan they saw... even shot up 2 of them...there bad both times...
yeah, i was reading about that.
They are behaving like scared kids, shooting up look a like vehicles without visual conformation of the suspect.
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and the LAPD was going around pulling over every nissan titan they saw... even shot up 2 of them...there bad both times...
yeah, i was reading about that.
They are behaving like scared kids, shooting up look a like vehicles without visual conformation of the suspect.
they act like the public is an enemy who is also conducting ops against them. they treat you like a threat right off the bat. shit pisses me off. and then something like this happens, they going around doing this BS no one calls them on it. if they had opened fire on me, i would have tried my hardest to get out and return fire.
not only that the fact they run full fucking combat loads and ride in APCs pisses me the fuck off!! they go into there 'no knock' raids or the rare 'active shooter' or chase for some gang banging bank robbers like they are going toe to toe with a squad sized element of professional military. when in reality if they needed all that gear they pack they wouldnt go near the threat. from what ive seen of CA cops (on the news, live feeds, or in person) a group of 4 or 5 guys who somewhat know what they are doing would hand them there ass on a silver platter..not to mention a few guys who KNOW what they are doing...
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I have never agreed with you more than now Chesty, the militarization of out Civil Servants if appalling.
While there is a time and a place to run 'full retard' when you pull me over for no seat belt is not that time. I understand, and believe in your heart of heart that if I was a cop I would have a full rattle ready to go in the trunk of the car but I would much rather snatch a dude at the post office than burn down his compound killing 70 of his people and getting 4 of mine killed. I'm looking at you ATF/FBI.
The problem is not exclusive to their business it is a blight on all our houses. The problem is one of Greed, Stupidity, Laziness and good old fashioned Cowardis.
I wrote a couple of paragraphs about how it effects my Trade but who cares about buildings.
The Police do not engage in their trade any more. They have reduced the importance of intelligence and dedication to the point that they can plug any moderately fit person into the slot and run a department.
This is what you get,
Law abiding citizens living in fear because their Police force is a gang of rank amateurs who are being allowed to run rough shod over the city they serve.
A man who was forced out because he held himself and his coworkers to a higher standard running unfettered across Southern Cali.
I hate to say it gent but there is no longer a place in this world for a man who gives a fuck. Your coworkers will rail against you because you cast a them in a poor light simply by shining brightly. Your employers will resent paying the wage you demand and more so the commitment to your craft because they will know you won't be compromised or brow beat.
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Houses searched in Big Bear, 400.
Warrents filed, 0.
Innocent Civs shot, 2.
Living in a Police State... priceless.
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Houses searched in Big Bear, 400.
Warrents filed, 0.
Innocent Civs shot, 2.
Living in a Police State... priceless.
NDAA at work. You'd think there was a war on.
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Houses searched in Big Bear, 400.
Warrents filed, 0.
Innocent Civs shot, 2.
Living in a Police State... priceless.
So how long do you think it will be before we hear about the investigations and punishments handed down to the officers who mistakenly opened fire on innocents. Seems like cops opening fire on innocents would be a big news story. But I haven't heard much about it at 6 and 10 pm.
Personally, I hope that they get this guy pretty soon. The part about shooting the defending officer's kid instead of going directly to the source of his complaint makes him an asshole in my book. He is sure showing California's LE for the schmucks that they are. Between pissing their pants and using it as an excuse to go all GI Joe, it's really a disgraceful display of what police have become over the past 2 or 3 decades.
As I've already stated, in my opinion if he eludes execution or takes out a few more cops. The copy cats with grudges against police in general will start coming out of the woodwork elsewhere around the country. Wish I could say that some of them hadn't brought it on themselves. The sad part is that there are some decent cops out there who would be paying for the sins of their psychotic, power drunk brethren. Lunatics that should have been tossed out of the police forces early on. My mother told me as a young man that you are known by those you associate with. Mom was a wise woman.
You guys keep your shit together as things move down their no doubt pre designed path. I want the guys I am associated with to be cool handed and level headed.
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Has anyone heard the rumor about this guy owning a barrett .50 and the cops not being able to find it?
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Has anyone heard the rumor about this guy owning a barrett .50 and the cops not being able to find it?
I hadn't heard that rumor. I'm sure there are all kinds of rumors going around about him. No telling what this guy has available to him. I doubt there is much chance that he is still in Bear Mountain. He had more than enough time to plan and prepare for what he is doing. He evidently wants them putting resources in that area for some reason. He was a cop, he knew burning his vehicle wouldn't make it unable to be traced to him. He set it ablaze to intentionally call attention to it. He was long gone before the flames died out.
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Yes RvR I heard he had a .50 on Fox news this morning.
On another note: He has planned this out perfectly. I would be willing to bet $100- that he isn't anywhere near Big Bear right now. Who wants to take my bet?
I have a friends who have a house in or near where 'they' are searching, I was told that it has been snowing almost everyday. For all we know he ate a bullet at his won hands and will not be found till spring.
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I doubt that JMac.
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Doubt he ate a bullet or will not be found around Bear? :)
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I doubt that JMac.
So do I. This guy didn't whack out like some other active shooters in the news recently. He's a little different. He's just really pissed, trained, and looking for retribution for a perceived offense. He was angry enough that he just doesn't give a damn how it turns out. Why he see's all police as evil and deserving of death I'm not sure. Maybe he found out that the system isn't perfect and it overwhelmed him.
But dear God, even the Mafia as a general rule didn't take out family members. This guy has a hate in him for cops. Being that he was one I'd really like to understand his line of thought.
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But dear God, even the Mafia as a general rule didn't take out family members. This guy has a hate in him for cops. Being that he was one I'd really like to understand his line of thought.
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That's what the media is ignoring. Yes, he's disgruntled over being fired. But what led up to that? According to him, he was sacked for exposing corruption. In his own mind, he's fighting a corrupt state agency. THAT is the subject people are going to be forced to reckon with as this thing drags on.
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I'm with Sledge, this guy has an axe to grind and knows to keep his stone wet.
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Those that are saying he is pissed at the guy for killing the family instead of the Captain that fucked him over...
Welcome to Guerrilla 101.
If they ever found him and he he had "eaten" a bullet then something isnt right with the story. This man was MOTIVATED to carry out his attack on the corrupt police state and that to me sounds like a hell of a motivator to live lol.
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I God damn concur
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Those that are saying he is pissed at the guy for killing the family instead of the Captain that fucked him over...
Welcome to Guerrilla 101.
If they ever found him and he he had "eaten" a bullet then something isnt right with the story. This man was MOTIVATED to carry out his attack on the corrupt police state and that to me sounds like a hell of a motivator to live lol.
Guerrilla 101 eh. Maybe, but that doesn't change the fact that he is an asshole. My question is, what is that Captain doing? He has inside contacts to whatever they know about this guy. If it happened to one of my kids I'd spend the rest of my life looking for this guy. Talk about a motivator. When I caught up with him he'd witness the evil of a slow rage that he'd swear came from the mind of Satin himself.
Not all cops are corrupt and full of themselves. In fact, I think that they are the minority. A larger portion are just caught up in a system whose training encourages or results in abuses as well as heroic behavior. We raise one in glory and curse the other. The system that has developed over the past few decades is the problem. Not in just police departments, but in the uncontrolled governmental bodies as a whole. Not exactly the way the Constitution designed it. These days we the people are more likely to answer to government bodies than they are to answer to us.
If he is fighting corruption, he could at least do it with honor. Yes, war is hell and dirty, use any avenue to win. But atrocity doesn't weaken corruption. Corruption thrives on it. He's an asshole.
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[quote If it happened to one of my kids I'd spend the rest of my life looking for this guy. Talk about a motivator. When I caught up with him he'd witness the evil of a slow rage that he'd swear came from the mind of Satin himself.][/quote]
I couldn't have said it better myself sledge.
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Heres how the sheriffs department is trained... watching the video you wonder how could they come out anything other then military thugs lookin to put their boot on some one. This video dosent even show how crazy they get. They have been known to strip you down to your underwear and make you stand in the rain. Or just choke you out for looking at them wrong. My brother witnessed both of those things with his own eyes while in the same area being trained for Animal control.
Los Angeles Sheriff's Academy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IURHfFIqbGs#)
Military and LAPD Urban Warfare Drills on January 25, 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDR7z-SCLGQ#ws)
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Does this remind anyone but me of the first day of boot camp. It's kind of like the DI riot raids. So this is how the militarization of our police begins. No wonder they had to get rid of the slogan "To Protect and Serve". It's kind of hard to use that slogan when your mission is "To Protect Myself and Subdue".
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i kinda doubt the .50 story, i read his views on gun control all that goodness, he doesnt believe in SBRs or cans and is borderline on assault rifles. but low and behold he was a.) a cop who carried alot of these things he wasnt to be gone b.) fucking shit up with guns... i hate hypocrisy.
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Widespread militarization of police and long term indoctrination regarding "home grown" threats/us versus them. Couple that with corruption and criminality at worst and complacency or failure to do/affect change to whats right at best. Add GD mouth breathers making life/job suck and encouraging the above statements.
Stand by for Federalization of at least all LARGE departments under DHS...
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O-Kay, O-Kay guys and gents; LA County Sheriffs have always been pricks and ass wipes. I have umpteen first hand stories dealing with them when I lived in Marina del Rey.
I busted a guy in my store who had shoplifted a Patagonia Jacket. As I ran after him a LA Sheriff drove by and I flagged him down. Well after a short exchange he collared the guy in the parking lot. He cuffed the suspect and as the suspect was being put in the back of the squad car the suspect pissed his pants and the runoff went onto the officers uniform. Well the officer threw him into the backseat; put the seat belt on the cuffed suspect and then proceeded to beat the crap out of him with a big ass flashlight.
Or the time the alarm went off at my store in MDR.
The alarm company called me and told me that there was a break-in and police had been notified. I put on my clothes and strapped on my Browning Hi-power. Then drove the mile or two to the store. I was met by two Sheriff deputies in front of my store drinking coffee. I identified myself and told them I was armed. They asked me to clime through the broken door window and turn on the stores lights. I unlocked the door (Daaaa) and walked into the store to the electric panel and turned on the lights. I no sooner turned on the lights then a K-9 German Shepard was backing me into a corner. The two Sheriff Deputies came in the store and thought it was all fun & games.
Or the time I was going to work in my inflatable in MDR.
I was zipping along at about 5 Knots creating no wake when all of a sudden a Sheriffs boat appears out of no where and blasts across the marine towards me. Well he skids to a semi stop alongside of me demanding I stop! In his boat is a TV crew filming this whole exchange. The Deputy turns to the camera and the reporter an explains that he spends all day tracking down head polluters and speeders in the marina. I could go on for another paragraph or two on this "stop" however I will not bore you. Although I fought it in court I lost and had to pay a $250- fine for creating a wake in a "no wake zone." I did get even though as I closed the marina Sheriff's account in my store. The last few months there they had to pay cash for everything in the store and I didn't give them wholesale pricing...The little f%^&kers!
I DO NOT LIKE LA SHERIFF DEPUTIES!
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You got pulled over in a boat?!?!
You got a new title, Capt. Badass!
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Ok, THIS is funny: the LAPD is offering $1 million for his capture. LOL. Where's the money coming from? The state's broke! They honestly think people are going to get involved in this nonsense?
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Captn Badass...To funny!
The Sheriff was just showing off for the news team and I was the piece of crap on his boot.
The best part of the story was when I went to court. There was a whole lot of pepper and virtually no salt in that courtroom that day. Because the charge was so unique, my case took over 30 minutes compared to the DUI, assault & battery and rape cases before mine. I was able to get the driving without plates dropped though. :)
So a $1,100- fine was reduced to a $250- one for creating a wake.
Oh I didn't mention that after I closed the Marina Sheriffs account they would follow me from the store to my home (Mad Max) the one night a week I worked late with a helicopter and appropriate spotlight on my inflatable & me. One Thursday my wife got so pissed that she ran onto the foredeck and gave them the finger using both hands. Oh those were the days ;)
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Apparently the guys been posting on FB...
http://beforeitsnews.com/blogging-citizen-journalism/2013/02/breaking-chris-dorner-posts-on-facebook-2445416.html?utm_term=http%3A%2F%2Fawe.sm%2FhDoSE&utm_content=awesm-publisher&utm_campaign=&utm_source=direct-awe.sm&utm_medium=facebook-share (http://beforeitsnews.com/blogging-citizen-journalism/2013/02/breaking-chris-dorner-posts-on-facebook-2445416.html?utm_term=http%3A%2F%2Fawe.sm%2FhDoSE&utm_content=awesm-publisher&utm_campaign=&utm_source=direct-awe.sm&utm_medium=facebook-share)
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Did I read correctly? Was this guy a Seal?
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Hiberniason On youtube has determined from his military pics that although he doubts the guy is a SEAL, it appears he may have been involved in navy special operations in some manner. I think said something to do w intel.
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Hiberniason On youtube has determined from his military pics that although he doubts the guy is a SEAL, it appears he may have been involved in navy special operations in some manner. I think said something to do w intel.
Roger that. I don't think this guy is a seal. Just doesn't fit.
Doesn't mean he isn't capable & or intelligent enough to pull some further " Crazy " stuff off.
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more than likely this guy is in a cave or something chillen out drinking beer while the LAPD is pissing themselves i wouldn't be surprised if he stands fast for a month before starting activity up again.
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more than likely this guy is in a cave or something chillen out drinking beer while the LAPD is pissing themselves i wouldn't be surprised if he stands fast for a month before starting activity up again.
I concur. [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
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only if said cave has wifi and a cell signal lol.
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Dorner might just be the first American droned in the continental US.
Would be an easy case for them to set their precedent.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/11/christopher-dorner-drones_n_2663871.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/11/christopher-dorner-drones_n_2663871.html)
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He just might be smart enough to avoid that. I think I read in Max Velocity's book Patriot Dawn, the resistance would put poncho's lined with mylar bags, over them while taking breaks in the field.
We will see...
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Current issue ponchos have an IR inhibiting treatment that stays with the fabric so long as you don't wash it with a detergent that has a brightener.
Defeating FLIR has never been so easy.
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Current issue ponchos have an IR inhibiting treatment that stays with the fabric so long as you don't wash it with a detergent that has a brightener.
Defeating FLIR has never been so easy.
Really?! I thought there were very few ways to counter thermal imaging, or that they had a contingency in place if they ran into such a problem. A poncho...whoda thunk?
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TG [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
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Looks like hes in another shootout. I think fish and game spotted his new truck. Not a lot of info but they claim hes pinned down in a cabin. I think he deployed smoke grenades after he got fire superiority and left. I wouldnt be suprised if that cabins empty.
Oh and they were using predator drones...
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this is one of those stories that has me extremely torn between multiple perspectives and feelings. I loathe murder, but fuck the police (especially those specific ones who deserve to be on the wrong end of a little vengeance). Dorner (if the manifesto is really his words) is a fucking delusional libturd... so fuck him too. then there's the whole suspicion that the entire thing is bogus and some kind of set-up.
who knows.. the timing of it all is pretty convenient, isn't it...
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On the radio, they said he has 2 hostages in the cabin... and that they are assembling a team that will go in before dark.
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On the radio, they said he has 2 hostages in the cabin... and that they are assembling a team that will go in before dark.
wow.. so i guess before too long, we'll get to see what kind of "training" this dude really has. if he manages to survive this confrontation and get away, it will re-enforce my suspicion about the whole thing. i don't care if you're chuck norris, you're not going to single-handedly pick apart multiple SWAT teams and get away.
(ok, maybe norris...)
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Yes Ken, I have heard that he was spotted by Environmental Police (Game Wardens for you folks who voted for Romney). Maybe...Just speculating here...because he was ice fishing without a license. C:-)
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Local radio reports that he may have gotten away in a squad car. Reporters say swat trucks and cars were seen racing away from that cabin. I bet hes long gone again. He escaped before any perimeter was in place.
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Live local coverage here:
http://abcnews.go.com/live (http://abcnews.go.com/live)
And here:
http://www.myfoxla.com/story/21079457/timeline-the-manhunt-for-christopher-dorner-continues (http://www.myfoxla.com/story/21079457/timeline-the-manhunt-for-christopher-dorner-continues)
And here:
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Christopher-Dorner-LAPD-Manhunt-Search-Big-Bear-190902721.html (http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Christopher-Dorner-LAPD-Manhunt-Search-Big-Bear-190902721.html)
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so on abc's live coverage, they're showing the cops conducting a full search of every vehicle coming down the highway. I didn't realize the constitution went out the window when a couple cops die.
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I'm watching NBC's coverage and there is a smoke grenade burning outside of the house.
I will say that I watched the San Bernadino County Sheriffs getting kitted up to serve a warrant last summer and those boys weren't playing. Nor was their OshKosh APC..
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On the radio, they said he has 2 hostages in the cabin... and that they are assembling a team that will go in before dark.
wow.. so i guess before too long, we'll get to see what kind of "training" this dude really has. if he manages to survive this confrontation and get away, it will re-enforce my suspicion about the whole thing. i don't care if you're chuck norris, you're not going to single-handedly pick apart multiple SWAT teams and get away.
(ok, maybe norris...)
LOL While I agree with you to some degree you would be surprised at just how vulnerable a SWAT team is...
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I'm watching NBC's coverage and there is a smoke grenade burning outside of the house.
I will say that I watched the San Bernadino County Sheriffs getting kitted up to serve a warrant last summer and those boys weren't playing. Nor was their OshKosh APC..
Thats probably an old shot as all of the choppers have been ordered to clear the area.
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It is an old shot.. the Sheriffs chased off the News Chopper.
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LMAO just a random thought...
While they are distracted watching a curtain blow gently in the wind, he is probably digging a tunnel past them with a spoon! ;D
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Anyone got a bird in the air with a live feed?
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NBC doesn't
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No, if they have him isolated they wont allow live feeds on his location lest they give away their movements to him over them.
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They are interviewing a guy who is right on track..
He said "I wasn't worried, he is after the cops.... I'm more worried about the cops, they are the ones freaking out."
LoL!!
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This dude is making the cop look like idiots and the news people are loosing their shit over it!
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ABC has a live feed at a set zoom to not show anything important. I say he had that house set to burn on a timer just like the truck. He did go into the cabin on the initial fire fight and then came out. He likely set the timer then. The officers claim he went back in. He did deploy smoke grenades around that time. That dudes gone already. If he was going to die in that house hed take more cops with him not just light the house on fire and burn to death or suicide by gun.
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I hope they didn't get him Waco style, what a horrible way to go..
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CNN: Explosives fired into cabin.
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Apparently there are tracks leading from the cabin to a horse corral.
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Apparently there are tracks leading from the cabin to a horse corral.
Source?
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/12/live-police-believe-they-have-cornered-lapd-murder-suspect-furious-gun-fight-raging-right-now/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/12/live-police-believe-they-have-cornered-lapd-murder-suspect-furious-gun-fight-raging-right-now/)
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CNN is claiming its a Waco style end, only time will tell. According to the article SWAT is clearing the building now.
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[url]http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/12/live-police-believe-they-have-cornered-lapd-murder-suspect-furious-gun-fight-raging-right-now/[/url] ([url]http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/12/live-police-believe-they-have-cornered-lapd-murder-suspect-furious-gun-fight-raging-right-now/[/url])
However, CBS L.A. is now reporting that, based on tracks leading from the cabin to a nearby horse corral, there is a small possibility that the gunman may have escaped.
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LIVE FEED... Anyone got the marshmallows? LOL
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Christopher-Dorner-LAPD-Manhunt-Search-Big-Bear-190902721.html (http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Christopher-Dorner-LAPD-Manhunt-Search-Big-Bear-190902721.html)
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This blows...I sure hope its someone else or he at least made it to a Bunker/tunnel.
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This blows...I sure hope its someone else or he at least made it to a Bunker/tunnel.
[URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
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This blows...I sure hope its someone else or he at least made it to a Bunker/tunnel.
Well, he was seen buying SCUBA gear two days earlier. Combine that with a bathtub full of water in a burning cabin, and just maybe...
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Fuuuuuuuck.... Mayor of LA spoke...then a hispanic said something in spannish to him and then he repeated the whole speach in spannish... If you dont even speak english you have no time to worry about the news. Learning English should be your top priority.
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Wouldn't be surprised if they pulled a Anwar Al-Awlahki (however you bloody spell it) and claim they killed him like 3-4 times lol. Then watch him pop back up again.
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Fuuuuuuuck.... Mayor of LA spoke...then a hispanic said something in spannish to him and then he repeated the whole speach in spannish... If you dont even speak english you have no time to worry about the news. Learning English should be your top priority.
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I'm listening to three things at once so I didn't catch everything but on HLN a dude on the phone basically said after shit went down the last thing that was heard was a lone gunshot.
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HLN: His body was removed from the cabin.
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HLN: His body was removed from the cabin.
A body was removed, identity has not been confirmed yet.
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I know they still have to ID it but tell that to HLN and NBC.
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http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Christopher-Dorner-LAPD-Manhunt-Search-Big-Bear-190902721.html (http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Christopher-Dorner-LAPD-Manhunt-Search-Big-Bear-190902721.html)
Been listening to this. I guess they drove up to the cabin in an APC busted the window out and told him to come out and then demolished the cabin wall by wall then they heard the lone gunshot then the fire started. From what I gathered anyway
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Gotta love Nancy Grace, she now confirms he's dead just as NBC says the sheriff says their not confirming anything.
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Barry can't be happy as this whole thang will detract from the State of the Union show.
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Oh, was that tonight?
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Looks like the media jumped the gun. LAPD says they have no ID yet.
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Gonna take a while to id that crispy critter...
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If at all TG.
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Well gents I tell ya' I got mixed emotions about this.
Dorner was legitimately wronged by the LAPD.
They wronged hundreds if not thousands in pursuit of him.
You know as well as I do that no legitate attempt was made to allow him to peaceably lay down his arms.
They wronged this man and chased him down like a dog only to smoke him out like a rat. If that is what passes for "Protect and Serve" then I say Fuck That!
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Christopher Dorner Shootout - Cops say "Burn It Down"
Link: Christopher Dorner Shootout - Cops say "Burn It Down" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNk-bV40XMc#ws)
yep they WAKOed him i guess to hell with the constitution when times get a little tough. [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
another link to infowars: http://www.infowars.com/lapd-audio-from-dorner-siege-burn-this-motherfucker/ (http://www.infowars.com/lapd-audio-from-dorner-siege-burn-this-motherfucker/)
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Christopher Dorner Shootout - Cops say "Burn It Down"
yep they WAKOed him i guess to hell with the constitution when times get a little tough. [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
another link to infowars: [url]http://www.infowars.com/lapd-audio-from-dorner-siege-burn-this-motherfucker/[/url] ([url]http://www.infowars.com/lapd-audio-from-dorner-siege-burn-this-motherfucker/[/url])
Deplorable....but not surprising.
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at the sometime i know "burn it" is LEO slang is for deploying teargas but at the same time they are TRAINED that deploying such munitions can be incendiary and not to deploy it in doors due to the risk of fire and the use of other munitions such as flash bangs are safer because they are designed to be used in an inclosed environment but i guess to hell with training.
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Premeditaded Murder by LAPD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tll8vCLfQP8#ws)
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They did not want the truth coming out and were OBVIOUSLY not trying to take him in alive. This was a HIT, similar to Al-Awlaki, only difference is there is a supposed trail of 4 bodies attributed to this man. Of course we wont be able to see this evidence because you know that they will again bury it all...
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If i was Chris Dorner id expect no less then a violent death if im caught. Wether its legal or not. Who wouldnt expect them to come for your life? Not even taking sides. You try and kill a person you better be ready for them to try and kill you. Perhaps im missing an ethical angle of some kind here with law enforcement? I realize they are not the jury so its their job to just bring people in alive if possible. But dudes blasting your team mates. Whos really going to try and bring him out safe and sound?
Maybe im just putting myself in his shoes because id assume they will try and kill me at the first chance they get if i was him.
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Speaking personally on the matter, when you swear the oath you accept the fact that you kiss your kids/wife and walk out that door with the likelihood that you may never come home again. That is why you prepare with ballistic vests and sidearm. This isn't goddamn Fallujah and they aren't soldiers. If someone was engaging them with military tactics its not their job to kick the door in or level the house if no other INNOCENTS are in danger at that time. That was a HIT. They let their emotions and whatever else rule their actions and by such DENIED THAT AMERICAN CITIZEN HIS CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO A TRIAL. They sure as hell went above and beyond the scope of their allowable force setting fire to the place. And yes, at last count there were 4 instances on the MSM of officers being overheard ordering/saying the cabin to be burned to the ground.
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I heard oreilly say it was on lincolns bday and thats how they got his killer too. Burned him in a house? I dont know the history but seems interesting.
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Passion a side dude was an American and as such had some 'inalienable rights.'
Inalienable rights: a right according to natural law, a right that cannot be taken away, denied, or transferred.
From the Declaration of Independence,
"[A]ll men are created equal...[and] are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
From the Bill of Rights,
1. To act in self-defense (personal, family, innocents, nation).
2. To own and carry weapons for self-defense and for ensuring that the nation remains free.
3. To own and control private property (land, money, personal items, intellectual property, etc.)
4. To earn a living and keep the fruit of one?s labor.
5. To freely migrate within the country or to leave the country.
6. To worship -- or not worship -- God in the manner one chooses.
7. To associate with -- or disassociate from -- any person or group.
8. To express any idea through print, voice, banner, or other media.
9. To be secure in one?s home, papers, and person against unwarranted searches and seizures (privacy).
10. To be advised of the charges, in the event of arrest.
11. To have a judge determine if the accused should be held for trial or for punishment.
12. To be tried by a jury of one?s peers and face one?s accuser, in the event of being charged with a crime.
13. To be tried by a jury of one?s peers, in the event of a suit in which the disputed amount is substantive.
14. To suffer no cruel or unusual punishment.
15. To establish, monitor, control, and petition our servant government to help secure the above rights.
16. To abolish said government, when it becomes destructive of these rights.
From the Declaration of Independence,
"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."
I don't give my consent..
Martin Luther King,
If one is oppressed all are oppressed.
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TG... [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
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Great post TG!
Throwing in the tear gas grenades they knew it would burn him out. I am sure, since Waco, this is SOP for folks you don't want to capture but wipe out.