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Mass Shooting
« on: August 05, 2019, 09:25:46 AM »
Concerning the two mass shooting's over the weekend, sadly, I think it is all a yawn. Seen it before and we will see it again. That written, I do not want anybody to think, I do not feel sympathy for the 29+ family's who's lives have changed for ever. And, the rhetoric never changes from the left.

Lets look at some other fun facts...
1) There is over 1,750 abortions done a day in the USofA. What ever happened to safe and rare,
2) Saturday, there was 7-shootings in Chicago. Keeping the focus on Chicago there has been 1,517
    shootings this year through July 27, 2019 and 293 folks murdered. No outrage there,
3) 199 murders in Baltimore this year through August 3, 2019. Yet when Trump shines a light on Baltimore
    he is labeled a racist,
4) I could go on and on as we all know the script from both sides of the equation.

Lets wait to see what develops over the next several days. This gives us all plenty of time to reread Bracken's story, Professor Raoul X.

As a side note: Search Socialist Rifle Association which some of us (opinion) think the shooter belongs too. I have not been able to find the complete written manifesto he is supposedly wrote. I have found excerpts of the document but not the whole thing. Some MSM groups are picking through the document and twisting the shooters words to make him look like a white supremacist.   :coffeeNews: 

Mr. Trump to talk to additional gun control at 1000 hrs today.  :popcorn:
 
Peace...

Addendum: I just found the shooters manifesto titled, The Inconvenient Truth. Read it with an open mind and I would love to read your thoughts on it.
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Re: Mass Shooting
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2019, 10:27:27 AM »
Here are some articles worth your time to read and be educated on of the Dayton shooter.

Articlel I

Article II

Just listened to Mr. Trump's speech. I promise you that the Democrat Presidential candidates and the MSM will go bonkers post his speech. 
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Re: Mass Shooting
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2019, 03:20:42 AM »
Every time one of these shootings occurs it really ticks me off. The first thing that happens is the backward thinking anti-gunners come out like cockroaches and start their "Lets take all the guns away" nonsense. The reverse is true. If everybody on the street was armed, that crap would be almost unheard of. The shooter would be dead before anyone could even dial 911.

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Re: Mass Shooting
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2019, 07:45:55 AM »
They are not going to take away your guns.  They say that all the time, so it must be true.  :facepalm:

They just want to ban the weapons of war.  You know, no more semi automatic weapons, you know, one trigger pull, one bullet fired, just like any double action revolver.  And anything more dangerous than that.  Everyone knows modern sporting rifles could not have been conceived or dreamed of back in the 1780s. 

I say a prayer every day that SCOTUS makes a proper and full coverage decision in the NY rifle pistol club decision when it comes out this fall.

If you are not an NRA member JOIN!!!  Numbers count when they are lobbying.  The Second Amendment Foundation, Gun Owners of America would be good too.

Look into state organizations.  In VA its VCDL.org.  State level NRA.  But a bit (big bit) more hard core some  :fuckYeah: say.

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« Last Edit: August 06, 2019, 07:48:47 AM by Nemo »
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Re: Mass Shooting
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2019, 09:24:29 AM »
I think it's highly likely we'll be seeing more of this from the extreme left and the extreme right.  The rhetoric of both sides seems to see a civil war as the answer to accomplishing their goals.  So there will probably be copy cat attacks in an attempt to initiate that end result.  In fact, I highly suspect that the Las Vegas shooting was an attempt to accomplish that same goal.  Although, the controversial investigation would never let us know that.  But there was a lot of chatter from Antifa concerning starting a civil war during the couple of months before that shooting occurred. 

     



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Re: Mass Shooting
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2019, 01:24:55 PM »
  More than a year ago I told my wife that we were heading for a civil war and she thought I was crazy.
Now that the talking heads are saying it she is starting to get nerves.

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 The idea of expanded back ground checks means different things to the radical left than it does to left leaning republicans. The left wants a national registry and the almost right wants to check into your school behavior.

 
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I say a prayer every day that SCOTUS makes a proper and full coverage decision in the NY rifle pistol club decision when it comes out this fall.

 I'm with you Nemo, but that's the reason for the for the left going batshit crazy, they know that SCOTUS will make the constitutional decision. They are trying to influence the Chief Justice just like obama did with obamacare.   

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Re: Mass Shooting
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2019, 08:10:44 PM »
Better ban knives and other sharp objects too.

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https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-man-in-custody-after-stabbing-robbery-rampage-that-killed-4-and-injured-2-police


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California gang member in custody after stabbing, robbery spree that killed 4, wounded 2: police
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A “documented gang member,” who police said "should have been in prison," was responsible for a two-hour stabbing and robbery rampage in Southern California that killed four people and injured two, authorities said Thursday.

Garden Grove Police Chief Tom DaRé told reporters that Zachary Castaneda "could have injured or killed many other people" had he not been apprehended as he walked out of a convenience store in the neighboring city of Santa Ana, dropping a knife and a gun he had taken from a security guard he had just killed.

Police told reporters the violence appeared to be “random," with Garden Grove police Lt. Carl Whitney adding that Castaneda was "violent" with detectives who attempted to interview him Wednesday night and was kept in restraints.

"He never told us why he did this," Whitney said.

The night before he told reporters, "We know this guy was full of anger."

Police said the violence unfolded across eight crime scenes in Garden Grove and Santa Ana, including an apartment complex, a bakery, an insurance office, a gas station and a Subway restaurant. The attacker and four of his alleged victims were described as Hispanic, the other two were described as Caucasian.

The two people who were injured in the attacks, a 44-year-old Hispanic man and a 54-year-old Hispanic woman, had undergone surgeries and were listed in stable condition.

Castaneda has a conviction for possession of meth for sale while armed with an assault rifle, police said, adding that investigators were still putting together his entire criminal history. Officials didn't specify what crimes sent Castaneda to prison or when he was released, but the chief described the suspect as a "violent individual," who should "never have been considered for early release" from prison.

“Based upon his prior arrest record, he is a violent individual who should have never been considered for early release based upon Assembly Bill 109.”

California voters passed the bill in 2011, which was designed to transfer people convicted of certain classes of less serious felonies from state prison to local county jails.

DaRé went on to say, “As a police chief I implore our policy makers to reevaluate their policies on criminal justice.”

DaRé said California law enforcement agencies have been “crippled” by Assembly Bill 109 and “offenders are not being held accountable for their crimes.”

Whitney told reporters on Thursday that police had previously gone to Castaneda's Garden Grove apartment to deal with a child custody issue. The suspect's mother had been living with him and had once asked police how she could evict her son, he said.

Whitney said Castaneda stabbed two men to death during a confrontation after he allegedly burglarized their apartment. Police said one of the men died inside an apartment and another was found wounded on the balcony and died at a hospital.

One of the victims at the apartment was identified as Romanian immigrant Helmuth Hauprich, 62. Hauprich's son, Erwin, told The Associated Press that his father had called him and said his passport, green card, sword collection and even a dining table were taken from the apartment.

Erwin Hauprich said his father never called him back and he went to check on him after hearing there had been a stabbing at the complex.

A police officer told him that Helmuth Hauprich had been taken to the hospital, where he died, the son said. He said he was told his father's roommate was killed in the apartment.

Whitney told reporters a bakery also was robbed where Castaneda allegedly threatened a clerk with either a gun or a knife and took cash.

The bakery owner, Dona Beltran, said she was sitting in her car charging her cellphone when she saw a tattooed man get out of a Mercedes and go inside the business. Beltran, 45, followed him inside to offer help but kept quiet when she saw him trying to open the cash register.

She then ran out of the shop and yelled she was being robbed before taking refuge in a nearby dental office, she said. He ended up taking the entire register with him, which had about $200, she said.

"I saved myself because I was in the car," she said in Spanish on Thursday. "Thank God I am alive."

Castaneda also robbed an insurance business, where the 54-year-old woman was stabbed several times and “almost killed,” Whitney said.

"She fought as best she could," said the lieutenant, who added that Castaneda was armed with “some sort of machete knives” when he confronted the woman and got away with cash.

He then went to a check-cashing business next door, according to Whitney, where an employee “threw cash at the suspect.” He then took off again.

Police said shortly after 6 p.m. on Wednesday, Castaneda drove up to a Chevron gas station, where he attacked a man pumping gas “for no reason.”

“There was no robbery,” said Whitney, who added that the victim was stabbed in the back and “his nose was nearly severed off his face,”

Whitney said undercover detectives tracked Castaneda’s silver Mercedes to the parking lot of the 7-Eleven in Santa Ana and within a minute of their arrival, the suspect walked out of the store, carrying a large knife and a gun that he had cut from the belt of a security guard he allegedly stabbed shortly before.

Police ordered the man to drop his weapons and Castaneda complied.

Whitney told reporters after Castaneda was taken into custody police learned that a man who was about to enter a nearby Subway restaurant also had been fatally stabbed during a robbery.

Whitney said surveillance cameras caught some of the attacks.

Charges have not yet been filed. Police said they are still processing evidence from the eight different crime scenes and once they reviewed all the evidence the district attorney’s office will file charges.

Castaneda is scheduled to be arraigned on Friday.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.


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Re: Mass Shooting
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2019, 08:22:27 PM »
Good to see ya' still are out there Sledge!  :cheers:

Am I the only one seeing the pressure increasing? As an example, the Democrat Presidential Candidates are saying some ugly things...Things that could be the dog whistle to a lot more crap.

The pressure is increasing like a crescendo in a cheap Italian Opera.
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Re: Mass Shooting
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2019, 08:37:33 PM »
   Yes, it does seem to be increasing.  The Leftists are starting to show their true colors.  But it seems like the whole world is starting to wobble.  There's the India/Kashmir conflict starting to boil.  The trade war with China is also starting to percolate too.  I'm sure the Chinese are doing everything in their power to eliminate Trump.  The economy is starting to fall apart too.  Trump and his team are in the middle of a juggling act with very high stakes.  The mob outside of McConnell's house too.  I wonder what kind of violence we'll see this weekend.

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Re: Mass Shooting
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2019, 08:56:12 PM »
Things are accelerating! And we are 15 months away from the 2020 election.

Before then and now, you better be doing PT and stocking mags, ammo, and guns like a madman. And training, of course, but that is a given.
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Re: Mass Shooting
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2019, 01:31:47 PM »
Why is it ALWAYS our side that needs to give up our Rights to meet them in the middle?

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