Hard truth about democrats

[JoJo]

 They talk about Jin Crow laws as if the Republicans past that bill.


Robert Gehl reports back in 1857, in a landmark decision, a Supreme Court packed with Democrats determined that not only was Dred Scott not a citizen, not only that he was property – but that black people might actually benefit from slavery.

It wasn’t until Republicans pushed through the 13th Amendment in 1865 that slavery was finally abolished in America. Democrats in the south tried to scuttle the new law with Jim Crow laws and other rules designed to keep blacks enslaved, but eventually that went down as well, writes Bill Federer at WorldNetDaily.


For the full story go here

http://thefederalistpapers.org/us/hard-truth-about-democrats-and-modern-day-slavery

[Kbop]

The US of A seems to have a lot of flip flopping when it comes to political ideology.

the Dems and Repubs swap sides on major issues, often.

the Repubs were 'pro choice' and the Dems were against it.  now swapped.
there are a bunch of examples.

i wonder if having more active political parties would help.

[pkveazey]

If we could trust politicians, we wouldn't need to be Preppers.

[JohnyMac]

George Washington's Farewell Address.

“...Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the Spirit of Party..."

and,

“... One of the expedients of Party to acquire influence, within particular districts, is to misrepresent the opinions & aims of other Districts. You cannot shield yourselves too much against the jealousies & heart burnings which spring from these misrepresentations. They tend to render Alien to each other those who ought to be bound together by fraternal Affection...

There were other references however I thought these were most relevant.

Didn't a Party fight between Adams and Jefferson drive a wedge between a multi-decade friendship?

[Kbop]

sigh, about says it all

If we could trust politicians, we wouldn't need to be Preppers.

[Kentactic]

Democrat doesn't refer to any single person. Nor does Republican. Obviously different people will hold different views and through time, social changes will make bigger changes on the minds of individuals in mass. This article can only be read as an attempt to deface the Democratic party. It makes zero sense though, because the people being referenced are all dead. So my question is, how is this article at all relevant to real life?

[JoJo]

This article can only be read as an attempt to deface the Democratic party

 I disagree, the truth never is an attempt to deface. The democrat party totally or thru its members keep trying to pin Dred Scott affair on Republicans. They were the KKK and in recent years had a KKK officer in congress yet the reference them to the Republican Party
 The democrats keep slavery going without iron chains but by welfare and other programs to keep them on the plantation.   

[Kentactic]

This article can only be read as an attempt to deface the Democratic party

 I disagree, the truth never is an attempt to deface. The democrat party totally or thru its members keep trying to pin Dred Scott affair on Republicans. They were the KKK and in recent years had a KKK officer in congress yet the reference them to the Republican Party
 The democrats keep slavery going without iron chains but by welfare and other programs to keep them on the plantation.

What's the connection between Democrats then and Democrats now? For example, if I voted as a Democrat, in what way would this article tell us something about me?

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[Nemo]

If we could trust politicians, we wouldn't need to be Preppers.

or gun owners
or newpaper readers
or internet users
or many other things.


Might still be because we wanted to-- but would not need to.

Nemo

[JoJo]

 The difference then to now is ,then they said do as I say or I will whip you. Today it's vote for me or I will stop your welfare and obamacare. Actually there is no difference, both are painful to the third and fourth generation welfare recipient.

[pkveazey]

Of all the political comments I have heard during my 72 years, the best is what Gen. George Patton said. "The lowest form of life is a Politician, and the lowest form of Politician is a Democrat." I personally have never seen or heard anything that contradicts that statement.

[Kentactic]

The difference then to now is ,then they said do as I say or I will whip you. Today it's vote for me or I will stop your welfare and obamacare. Actually there is no difference, both are painful to the third and fourth generation welfare recipient.

The term Democrat isn't referring to the same people then and now. What does the information about the actions of those dead people tell us about different people using the same title today? Doesn't the alleged "welfare slavery" that you propose is a system solely created by Democrats, stand or fall on its own?

[Kentactic]

I'm giving you a hard time here because all I see is the perpetuating of the Left vs. Right idea which gives everyone the feeling of being engaged but in a controlled environment where they can't really do anything dangerous to the status quo.

[JoJo]

 Your changing the subject. The post is about Democrat Hypocrisy. How the party as a whole  has enslaved minorities either with chains or welfare and then blamed the problems on the Republicans as a whole. 

[Nemo]

If there were any truth to someone spinning in their grave its TJ and GW. 

That is the reasons for all the earthquaking around the country.

Nemo

[Kentactic]

Your changing the subject. The post is about Democrat Hypocrisy. How the party as a whole  has enslaved minorities either with chains or welfare and then blamed the problems on the Republicans as a whole.

If I say something and then you act in contradiction to my statements, does that make either of us a hypocrite? The people you've referenced in the article are dead. The totally different people you are now calling hypocrites, are alive and connected in no other way than party name. Your argument is fallacious.

Ironically all mainstream political parties are hypocrites. Your example just isn't one of the reasons.

[JoJo]

 Their being dead doesn't matter. Today's Democrat party keeps blaming today's Republican party for past Democrat misdeeds.  You seem to be taking it personally and I did not mean it to be and I certainly do not want to get into a pissing match which this seems to be heading.

[Kentactic]

Their being dead doesn't matter. Today's Democrat party keeps blaming today's Republican party for past Democrat misdeeds.  You seem to be taking it personally and I did not mean it to be and I certainly do not want to get into a pissing match which this seems to be heading.

Maybe their history is off if they are claiming the Republican party to really have been in the Democratic parties place on some issue, I don't think that's what you're claiming though. I think you are swinging at some vague democratic smear  of Republicans as being racist. If that is the case, you'd need to use current examples if referring to current party members.

I'm not taking it personally at all. I don't have a personal stake in the argument. I'm merely voicing my distaste for irrational arguments which do nothing but perpetuate lowest common denominator political practices based around tribalism.

What could possibly be gained with this post? You're lost in political gang wars. You picked a side at some point and from that generic position, you now look down on anyone not in your tribe.

If you want to talk actual hypocrisy, how do the pro-Statism(left and right) groups, reconcile the fact that they denounce theft while simultaneously supporting taxation?

[JoJo]

Their being dead doesn't matter. Today's Democrat party keeps blaming today's Republican party for past Democrat misdeeds.  You seem to be taking it personally and I did not mean it to be and I certainly do not want to get into a pissing match which this seems to be heading.

Maybe their history is off if they are claiming the Republican party to really have been in the Democratic parties place on some issue, I don't think that's what you're claiming though. I think you are swinging at some vague democratic smear  of Republicans as being racist. If that is the case, you'd need to use current examples if referring to current party members.

I'm not taking it personally at all. I don't have a personal stake in the argument. I'm merely voicing my distaste for irrational arguments which do nothing but perpetuate lowest common denominator political practices based around tribalism.

What could possibly be gained with this post? You're lost in political gang wars. You picked a side at some point and from that generic position, you now look down on anyone not in your tribe.

If you want to talk actual hypocrisy, how do the pro-Statism(left and right) groups, reconcile the fact that they denounce theft while simultaneously supporting taxation?

 Ah it comes out now, Everyone is wrong but you. You appear to be a contrarian, all you want is a pissing contest.  END OF POST.

[Kentactic]

Their being dead doesn't matter. Today's Democrat party keeps blaming today's Republican party for past Democrat misdeeds.  You seem to be taking it personally and I did not mean it to be and I certainly do not want to get into a pissing match which this seems to be heading.

Maybe their history is off if they are claiming the Republican party to really have been in the Democratic parties place on some issue, I don't think that's what you're claiming though. I think you are swinging at some vague democratic smear  of Republicans as being racist. If that is the case, you'd need to use current examples if referring to current party members.

I'm not taking it personally at all. I don't have a personal stake in the argument. I'm merely voicing my distaste for irrational arguments which do nothing but perpetuate lowest common denominator political practices based around tribalism.

What could possibly be gained with this post? You're lost in political gang wars. You picked a side at some point and from that generic position, you now look down on anyone not in your tribe.

If you want to talk actual hypocrisy, how do the pro-Statism(left and right) groups, reconcile the fact that they denounce theft while simultaneously supporting taxation?

 Ah it comes out now, Everyone is wrong but you. You appear to be a contrarian, all you want is a pissing contest.  END OF POST.

Lol...